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Can anyone with any ntelligence still think that Labour can be the answer? Their latest old-fashioned failed socialist policy must make people realise that these people are economically intellectual pygmies. How on earth will rent controls and making it less attractive for landlords to rent by making them rent for minimum 3 years help with the supply of private rental properties?! This was already tried for decades and caused a massive shortage because potential landlords stopped buying ffs! So they'll be nothing to rent!
The problem is caused by classic supply and demand. What needs to happen is to stop so many people coming across our borders and pushing up demand, whilst continuing to free up the planning process and getting more properties built.
All these policies of interfering with the market will never ever work and will actually have the diametrically opposite effect to that intended.
I just give up.
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Labour - private rent controls on 08:29 - Apr 26 with 7698 views
When I was recently under the care of the NHS, I now realise that despite the absolutely first class treatment and bed side manner I received from the migrant worker who looked after me, I really should have advised them to kindly go back to where they came from as they are making it so much more difficult for private landlords to amass their property portfolio.
Out of interest, how would a non state intervention approach work if (and I appreciate my hypothesis is totally wild and unbelievable here) say, the banking industry needed bailing out?
Up until the late 70s the likes of Keith Joseph were considered intellectual nutters. Remarkable as it may seem to you titans of laissez faire of today.
Such a shame you've given up, just when us economic pygmies need as many cheer leaders as possible of the utterly failed and decrepit neo liberal economic philosophy.
If a government gave every over 18 year old a car but did not build any more roads or parking spaces, the result would be gridlock.....yet that is exactly what is happening with an open door immigration policy without improving the infrastructure. And that is why we have a severe housing shortage, few available school places, few available GP places and hospital beds, and A&E departments that can't cope. It really isn't rocket science, is it?
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Labour - private rent controls on 09:05 - Apr 26 with 7641 views
A simpler solution would be to set the rent to fall in line with the local housing allowance (LHA)
As at the moment landlords and rental agencies take the pss and give people like me absolutely no chance in ever buying a house as we can't afford to save due to high rent
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Labour - private rent controls on 09:15 - Apr 26 with 7615 views
Labour - private rent controls on 08:29 - Apr 26 by AgedR
When I was recently under the care of the NHS, I now realise that despite the absolutely first class treatment and bed side manner I received from the migrant worker who looked after me, I really should have advised them to kindly go back to where they came from as they are making it so much more difficult for private landlords to amass their property portfolio.
Out of interest, how would a non state intervention approach work if (and I appreciate my hypothesis is totally wild and unbelievable here) say, the banking industry needed bailing out?
Up until the late 70s the likes of Keith Joseph were considered intellectual nutters. Remarkable as it may seem to you titans of laissez faire of today.
Such a shame you've given up, just when us economic pygmies need as many cheer leaders as possible of the utterly failed and decrepit neo liberal economic philosophy.
[Post edited 26 Apr 2015 8:31]
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Labour - private rent controls on 09:27 - Apr 26 with 7590 views
I don't think it's such a bad idea. Me and my partner have two rental properties (not in London obviously) which we bought specifically to rent to family who can't afford to buy. Anyway by doing that we've stopped two people buying houses that they'd live in and own. That reduceds the number available on the market to buy, which raises demand in the rental sector.
So, despite being a landlord, I can see that it would be better for the majority. Personally we wouldn't be affected as we're not in it to make money and we don't plan any price rises anyway. Perhaps if this was in place we wouldn't have become landlords if our family could afford rent/purchase in the first place.
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Labour - private rent controls on 10:32 - Apr 26 with 7503 views
Labour - private rent controls on 08:29 - Apr 26 by AgedR
When I was recently under the care of the NHS, I now realise that despite the absolutely first class treatment and bed side manner I received from the migrant worker who looked after me, I really should have advised them to kindly go back to where they came from as they are making it so much more difficult for private landlords to amass their property portfolio.
Out of interest, how would a non state intervention approach work if (and I appreciate my hypothesis is totally wild and unbelievable here) say, the banking industry needed bailing out?
Up until the late 70s the likes of Keith Joseph were considered intellectual nutters. Remarkable as it may seem to you titans of laissez faire of today.
Such a shame you've given up, just when us economic pygmies need as many cheer leaders as possible of the utterly failed and decrepit neo liberal economic philosophy.
[Post edited 26 Apr 2015 8:31]
But isnt NHS is in crisis ?? Thats what Ed keps telling us , first class treatment and bedside manner , surely some mistake ?
Your point on immigrant NHS workers is a good one , but can be countered somewhat by the immigrant patients they are treating . As with housing its a simple matter of mathematics .
The time to give up will be when Ed Milliband enters Downing Street with Nicola Sturgeon tugging at one testicle and Len Mcluskey tugging on the other one .
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Labour - private rent controls on 10:40 - Apr 26 with 7484 views
Labour - private rent controls on 08:29 - Apr 26 by AgedR
When I was recently under the care of the NHS, I now realise that despite the absolutely first class treatment and bed side manner I received from the migrant worker who looked after me, I really should have advised them to kindly go back to where they came from as they are making it so much more difficult for private landlords to amass their property portfolio.
Out of interest, how would a non state intervention approach work if (and I appreciate my hypothesis is totally wild and unbelievable here) say, the banking industry needed bailing out?
Up until the late 70s the likes of Keith Joseph were considered intellectual nutters. Remarkable as it may seem to you titans of laissez faire of today.
Such a shame you've given up, just when us economic pygmies need as many cheer leaders as possible of the utterly failed and decrepit neo liberal economic philosophy.
[Post edited 26 Apr 2015 8:31]
Oh dear. You've missed the point. It's about supply and demand. It's a failed socialist policy from the 1970s and looking at your username, you presumably would be able to remember that. It didn't work then and won't work now and, as I said, will have exactly the opposite effect to that intended; that is my point, it won't do what's it's leading people to believe it will do.
Never mind, eh, at least it will pander to those unbelievable number of people who think that "bashing the rich" (if that what is intended to look like) is the answer, notwithstanding that those very people generate the wealth that those very people rely on for jobs, safety nets, NHS etc.
Still, at least it's something for me to think about other than seeing Karl Henry on the pitch for 90 minutes at left-half in a game we had to win.
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Labour - private rent controls on 11:12 - Apr 26 with 7427 views
We're in this mess because of pure greed. Shortage of property and rising population by whatever means has pushed rents and property prices up.
I listened to a BBC London radio show a while back and they we saying that overseas people buying up lots of property to sell a year later for a bigger profit than any stock market shares are contributing to the problem as they leave the properties empty. Of course, there are plenty of indigenous people doing this too. "Something should be done" they cried. "Force them to rent, put a higher council tax on empty properties" etc. Whilst I agree its a problem, its their property and they can do what they like with it. You cant go around telling people what to do with something they own. You cant have a capatalistic economy on one hand then tell them they have to behave socialistically. A levvy on council tax will not deter them either when theyll make a huge profit a year later.
Having a lower fixed rental price will make people sell because its not worth it forcing a glut on the market and prices will plummet meaning thousands in negative equity. Who will compensate those people because a government has forced a fixed price upon them?
Governments love it when prices go up and up because they get even more money in stamp duty. How will they offset that loss of income when property prices drop? They will find a way of taxing us poor buggers on the street somehow.
Prices cant keep going up forever. Nice when they do, luvverly jubbly for the owner but when they drop, and they will, all hell will break lose.
Then it will settle and prices start going up again and so it repeats ad infinitum.
Labour - private rent controls on 10:57 - Apr 26 by sevenhoop
Oh dear. You've missed the point. It's about supply and demand. It's a failed socialist policy from the 1970s and looking at your username, you presumably would be able to remember that. It didn't work then and won't work now and, as I said, will have exactly the opposite effect to that intended; that is my point, it won't do what's it's leading people to believe it will do.
Never mind, eh, at least it will pander to those unbelievable number of people who think that "bashing the rich" (if that what is intended to look like) is the answer, notwithstanding that those very people generate the wealth that those very people rely on for jobs, safety nets, NHS etc.
Still, at least it's something for me to think about other than seeing Karl Henry on the pitch for 90 minutes at left-half in a game we had to win.
Sorry bt utter nonsense, and a classic to. Blame immigrants, an argument devoid of intelligence a million miles from reality.
Your only intelligent observation is supply and demand.
thatchers sold the cow cil houses and wandered the supply by failing tobui D. Which, predictably, inevitably, brings us today.
What labour should be doing is a massive corporate tax take on the vermin like Boots, Star bucks etc who pay next to no tax and embark on a massive public actor house building programe for a decade to resolve supply thus dropping private rents to compete. It is that simple, no shortage of money in the economy, just a lack of balls to do it.
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Labour - private rent controls on 11:37 - Apr 26 with 7366 views
Build more houses, it's that simple. If one of the parties committed to doing this they'd get my vote and many others too. As it is it doesn't even get discussed, occasionally they bring out another scheme to make home owning more affordable for a short period but medium/long term increases demand and therefore increases prices which ultimately makes it less affordable and makes the problem worse. It's very simple, build more houses and prices will drop creating affordable housing.
I also think we should have a law whereby government has to provide X amount of schools, hospitals, housing & other infrastructure per Y amount of people. Immigration would then be taken more seriously and the theory that immigrants 'pay for themselves' (ie. contribute to the economy) would be proven one way or another.
Ukip 42 tory 36 labour 31 green 17 liberal 11 plaid cymru 5 dnp 4 snp 3 independants 12
161 votes cast thus far
for a message board that voted the daily mail as more hateful than famine, racism , war and social inequality it tells me that what people say in public may well be in contrast to what they say in the sanctuary of the polling booth
[Post edited 26 Apr 2015 12:10]
"...The monkey is never dead, Dealer. The monkey never dies. When you kick him off, he just hides in a corner, waiting his turn."
Sorry bt utter nonsense, and a classic to. Blame immigrants, an argument devoid of intelligence a million miles from reality.
Your only intelligent observation is supply and demand.
thatchers sold the cow cil houses and wandered the supply by failing tobui D. Which, predictably, inevitably, brings us today.
What labour should be doing is a massive corporate tax take on the vermin like Boots, Star bucks etc who pay next to no tax and embark on a massive public actor house building programe for a decade to resolve supply thus dropping private rents to compete. It is that simple, no shortage of money in the economy, just a lack of balls to do it.
wondered when you'd pop out of the woodwork.
I'm not "blaming immigrants". Our population is rampantly out of control, to the extent that we cannot say with any accuracy just what the net migration is. You quite correctly agree that it's supply and demand. Ergo, you cannot then argue that immigration has nothing to do with the issue - why is it a "million miles devoid from reality". The reason that we need to build a load more houses, as again you correctly argue, is because our population increase is out of control. Simple.
And, to get back to the original point, none of the issues will be solved (in fact they will be made worse) than today's old-fashioned proved-that-it-doesn't work socialist ideological crap.
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Labour - private rent controls on 12:16 - Apr 26 with 7277 views
Labour - private rent controls on 12:09 - Apr 26 by Discodroids
update on the LfW gen election poll.
the results as they stand today
Ukip 42 tory 36 labour 31 green 17 liberal 11 plaid cymru 5 dnp 4 snp 3 independants 12
161 votes cast thus far
for a message board that voted the daily mail as more hateful than famine, racism , war and social inequality it tells me that what people say in public may well be in contrast to what they say in the sanctuary of the polling booth
[Post edited 26 Apr 2015 12:10]
Or that some of those people no longer use this message board.
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Labour - private rent controls on 12:19 - Apr 26 with 7272 views
Labour - private rent controls on 09:05 - Apr 26 by Rangersw12
A simpler solution would be to set the rent to fall in line with the local housing allowance (LHA)
As at the moment landlords and rental agencies take the pss and give people like me absolutely no chance in ever buying a house as we can't afford to save due to high rent
Totally understand mate, it's crazy that a lot of people can't get on the ladder & this is made worse by the new process of applying for a mortgage with the stupid way of affordability and strict rules the mortgage lenders put in place But not all landlords are bathing in money , I own 2 places and make about 250.00 a month between the two , the second property I rent is by the Northampton rugby ground(ethnic street) it's called by the locals , the people renting it have left it in a right state and has cost me about 3000 to get it back in any sort of shape, So I'm well out of pocket at the moment meaning no holiday again this year for us , I only took it in on so my step daughter could get in the ladder when she is older
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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Labour - private rent controls on 13:01 - Apr 26 with 7180 views
Have to disagree with the premise here, The point is to deal with some of the crazy rent increases that landlords attempt to put on existing tenants as well as trying to deal with the ridiculous growth in Housing Benefit (a failed Tory policy) of putting social housing in the hands of the private landlords who charge the maximum they can get away with. My brother in law who has mental health problems was housed in a private landlord flat who were charging 2K a month to the council for what was an absolutely disgusting cess pit with broken windows and pigeon shite all over the hall. We need more housing and we need it to be affordable and if the private market is to participate it needs to be with some controls otherwise what we get is lots of expensive housing that is rented out as second homes or is taken by the young who will never be able to save to buy anywhere due to the price of rents. The only other option is for the state to build masses of housing and that would mean more borrowing
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Labour - private rent controls on 13:02 - Apr 26 with 7179 views
Labour - private rent controls on 12:16 - Apr 26 by QPR_Jim
Or that some of those people no longer use this message board.
dont understand what you're saying furs.perhaps it was some kind of diabolical schlieffen plan on my part to purge this board of left of center voters.
people leave and enter this hallowed LFW portal all the time.
the votes surprised me , given the shit that gets flung around on here.
[Post edited 26 Apr 2015 13:07]
"...The monkey is never dead, Dealer. The monkey never dies. When you kick him off, he just hides in a corner, waiting his turn."
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Labour - private rent controls on 13:14 - Apr 26 with 7145 views
I was in ucl hospital last Wednesday if by looking around me I couldn't tell what country I was in nearly everyone else waiting was non European by appearance even the consultant I was due to see was Asian but she was missing so I got to see a rare thing indeed a English doctor!
yes we need overseas staff but why is that? aren't we training enough of our own or do all ours sod off to Australia nz or usa for a better life and wages
too many managers and too many free loaders taking advantage us our services ,how a woman can bring her 80+ year old father from sri lanka here for a new kidney and treatment and pay nothing! is a joke
Social housing was introduced for a good reason - because the private rented sector was unable to provide housing for the lower paid to an acceptable standard. If that is the case once again then we need more social housing, not less, as the Conservatives are planning with their ideas to force housing associations into right to buy.
There was a TV documentary recently (Dispatches on C4 I think) that investigated some of the poor (and illegal) conditions that people are living in. Fair enough, scum landlords are nothing new.
What blew my mind is that some London councils (Enfield was the example) are now buying back ex-council properties on the open market to provide social housing because in the long term it will be cheaper than paying private landlords. Obviously at prices vastly inflated from what they sold for under right to buy. So taxpayers are ripped off once when social housing is sold at a discount, twice when private landlords are paid insane rents to house people on benefits and thrice when councils have to buy at full market the properties they sold.
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