| Leroy Fer loses 4k 02:49 - Sep 24 with 7242 views | FredManRave |
Sounds like he's chomping at the bit to get back playing after his Sunderland "dissapointment". Great news for us as a fit and firing Fer could and should do some serious damage in this league. On form he'd be one of the first names on the team sheet.
Bench on Friday, impact sub to kill the game off...
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/qpr-midfielder-leroy [Post edited 24 Sep 2015 3:51]
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 03:51 - Sep 24 with 4585 views | DylanP |
I disagree. Who would he replace? Luongo? Chery? Those two have been playing great. I wouldn't replace either of them.
Fer played well towards the end of last year, but there were also many times when he often looked disinterested and half-hearted. He has to prove himself and win himself a place in the team. Nothing is automatic. |  |
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 04:26 - Sep 24 with 4564 views | FredManRave |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 03:51 - Sep 24 by DylanP |
I disagree. Who would he replace? Luongo? Chery? Those two have been playing great. I wouldn't replace either of them.
Fer played well towards the end of last year, but there were also many times when he often looked disinterested and half-hearted. He has to prove himself and win himself a place in the team. Nothing is automatic. |
Fair enough Dylan, but I'll just reiterate the point that a fit and firing Fer should be playing but he has to earn the right, as you say, hopefully starting on Friday...
I obviously can't comment on Luongo and Chery as I've hardly seen them play and when I have it's been from my armchair, however, the article below doesn't make for great reading for Luongo although I suppose it depends on how much you actually want to read into it;
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/09/23/qprs-massimo-luongo-is-the-championships-mo [Post edited 24 Sep 2015 4:26]
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 06:27 - Sep 24 with 4474 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 04:26 - Sep 24 by FredManRave |
Fair enough Dylan, but I'll just reiterate the point that a fit and firing Fer should be playing but he has to earn the right, as you say, hopefully starting on Friday...
I obviously can't comment on Luongo and Chery as I've hardly seen them play and when I have it's been from my armchair, however, the article below doesn't make for great reading for Luongo although I suppose it depends on how much you actually want to read into it;
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/09/23/qprs-massimo-luongo-is-the-championships-mo [Post edited 24 Sep 2015 4:26]
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I don't think I've ever seen such an irrelevant stat. It shows he gets on the ball regularly and tries to do something difficult rather than pass it sideways and abdicate responsibility. |  | | |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 06:53 - Sep 24 with 4442 views | QPR_Jim |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 06:27 - Sep 24 by Watford_Ranger |
I don't think I've ever seen such an irrelevant stat. It shows he gets on the ball regularly and tries to do something difficult rather than pass it sideways and abdicate responsibility. |
Totally agree. He's only in their because he takes responsibility for moving the ball forward. Henry for example will pass sideways or backwards out of fear of losing the ball. The fact he's highest in the league is probably not great but he's adjusting to the level and looks likely to improve with experience.
I think fer should replace Henry and hold. With his experience and physical presence he should be able to adapt to that role. |  | | |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 07:07 - Sep 24 with 4409 views | YorkRanger |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 06:53 - Sep 24 by QPR_Jim |
Totally agree. He's only in their because he takes responsibility for moving the ball forward. Henry for example will pass sideways or backwards out of fear of losing the ball. The fact he's highest in the league is probably not great but he's adjusting to the level and looks likely to improve with experience.
I think fer should replace Henry and hold. With his experience and physical presence he should be able to adapt to that role. |
Question is not so much about his experience and physical presence, but whether he would have the discipline for a holding role |  | | |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 07:19 - Sep 24 with 4386 views | Watford_Ranger |
If we signed a 21-year-old Patrick Vieira, Karl Henry would still be first name on the team sheet.
I'd happily give Fer a try in that position but fully expect him back injured after three games and moved on quietly in January. | | | |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 07:28 - Sep 24 with 4361 views | johncharles |
Fer is a very good footballer but 'impact' is not a word that springs to mind [Post edited 24 Sep 2015 11:03]
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| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 07:33 - Sep 24 with 4350 views | daveB |
Fer can be a decent player but is a lazy sod and I'm not sure he'll fancy it when the going gets tough, he didn't last year |  | | |
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 08:17 - Sep 24 with 4232 views | GetMeRangers |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 06:53 - Sep 24 by QPR_Jim |
Totally agree. He's only in their because he takes responsibility for moving the ball forward. Henry for example will pass sideways or backwards out of fear of losing the ball. The fact he's highest in the league is probably not great but he's adjusting to the level and looks likely to improve with experience.
I think fer should replace Henry and hold. With his experience and physical presence he should be able to adapt to that role. |
Would dropping mass back into Henry's position and putting fer where mass played work?
I think we are more likely to see Sandro on Friday than Fer |  | | |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 08:27 - Sep 24 with 4210 views | simmo |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 03:51 - Sep 24 by DylanP |
I disagree. Who would he replace? Luongo? Chery? Those two have been playing great. I wouldn't replace either of them.
Fer played well towards the end of last year, but there were also many times when he often looked disinterested and half-hearted. He has to prove himself and win himself a place in the team. Nothing is automatic. |
Fer for Henry - Mass next to Faurlin. I can't keep reiterating how little Henry is needed in this league. |  |
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 08:28 - Sep 24 with 4207 views | simmo |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 04:26 - Sep 24 by FredManRave |
Fair enough Dylan, but I'll just reiterate the point that a fit and firing Fer should be playing but he has to earn the right, as you say, hopefully starting on Friday...
I obviously can't comment on Luongo and Chery as I've hardly seen them play and when I have it's been from my armchair, however, the article below doesn't make for great reading for Luongo although I suppose it depends on how much you actually want to read into it;
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/09/23/qprs-massimo-luongo-is-the-championships-mo [Post edited 24 Sep 2015 4:26]
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That article is a classic example of the difference between stats and actually going to a game. | |
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 09:13 - Sep 24 with 4087 views | londonscottish |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 08:28 - Sep 24 by simmo |
That article is a classic example of the difference between stats and actually going to a game. |
Have only seen him once this season (Blackburn) but FWIW he was in my list of three that seemed to give the ball away unnecessarily. KH was way out in front with Perch in second and Luongo third. |  |
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 09:13 - Sep 24 with 4085 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 08:27 - Sep 24 by simmo |
Fer for Henry - Mass next to Faurlin. I can't keep reiterating how little Henry is needed in this league. |
Admittedly it was only one game I think but Luongo looked pretty useless in that position v Charlton and has been excellent overall further forward. If either of them should be the one to sit deeper then it's Fer for me. | | | |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 09:58 - Sep 24 with 3995 views | Toast_R |
Fer in the holding role, that's a good one... |  | | |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 10:00 - Sep 24 with 3983 views | EastR |
From the title I thought this was going to be a thread about Fer, Caulker and a casino. | |
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 10:07 - Sep 24 with 3970 views | simmo |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 09:13 - Sep 24 by Watford_Ranger |
Admittedly it was only one game I think but Luongo looked pretty useless in that position v Charlton and has been excellent overall further forward. If either of them should be the one to sit deeper then it's Fer for me. |
But Fer gives you that ability to support Charlie in the box when crosses come in - he's really good in the air and a big man arriving late, running onto a cross is almost unstoppable. Luongo has been great in the more advanced role but his remit is very much creation an dindustry, something he can still do in a box-to-box midfield role. It would be VERY attacking, but at home especially I think it would be worth the risk. We have enough to steamroll teams and I think we should start doing it. | |
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| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 10:08 - Sep 24 with 3967 views | TacticalR |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 10:00 - Sep 24 by EastR |
From the title I thought this was going to be a thread about Fer, Caulker and a casino. |
That's another thread.  |  |
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 10:53 - Sep 24 with 3851 views | QPunkR |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 07:07 - Sep 24 by YorkRanger |
Question is not so much about his experience and physical presence, but whether he would have the discipline for a holding role |
Fer! 'Physical presence' if you please! |  |
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| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 11:57 - Sep 24 with 3723 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 07:33 - Sep 24 by daveB |
Fer can be a decent player but is a lazy sod and I'm not sure he'll fancy it when the going gets tough, he didn't last year |
I'm not sure where this lazy tag comes from. When he was playing left mid he didn't get up and down like Mackie would, but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Under Ramsay, he was very good in the no.10-type role. Didn't ever think he didn't fancy it - indeed, without his goals we'd have gone down earlier and had he not been injured at Sunderland we'd have gone a lot closer to staying up.
For me it's a no-brainer, when fit he should be just behind Austin. He can win the ball in the air. He's dangerous with long shots and late runs into the box and he won't be required to run back and help the centre backs too much. Then I'd play Luongo as a holder. |  |
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| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 12:22 - Sep 24 with 3643 views | simmo |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 11:57 - Sep 24 by Antti_Heinola |
I'm not sure where this lazy tag comes from. When he was playing left mid he didn't get up and down like Mackie would, but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Under Ramsay, he was very good in the no.10-type role. Didn't ever think he didn't fancy it - indeed, without his goals we'd have gone down earlier and had he not been injured at Sunderland we'd have gone a lot closer to staying up.
For me it's a no-brainer, when fit he should be just behind Austin. He can win the ball in the air. He's dangerous with long shots and late runs into the box and he won't be required to run back and help the centre backs too much. Then I'd play Luongo as a holder. |
Exactly as I see it. He played what, 2 games in the number 10 role behind Austin? I'd be surprised if he wasn't MoM for both of them. | |
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| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 12:25 - Sep 24 with 3635 views | Juzzie |
| Leroy Fer has lost 4k on 06:27 - Sep 24 by Watford_Ranger |
I don't think I've ever seen such an irrelevant stat. It shows he gets on the ball regularly and tries to do something difficult rather than pass it sideways and abdicate responsibility. |
Liverpool spent £15 million on Joe Allen from Swansea who does just that.
gets ball
passes it back
gets ball again
passes it back
gets ball again
passes it back
Never saw him play any ball into a threatening area, at least Gerrard did that.
£15 million. |  | | |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 12:29 - Sep 24 with 3614 views | R_from_afar |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 11:57 - Sep 24 by Antti_Heinola |
I'm not sure where this lazy tag comes from. When he was playing left mid he didn't get up and down like Mackie would, but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Under Ramsay, he was very good in the no.10-type role. Didn't ever think he didn't fancy it - indeed, without his goals we'd have gone down earlier and had he not been injured at Sunderland we'd have gone a lot closer to staying up.
For me it's a no-brainer, when fit he should be just behind Austin. He can win the ball in the air. He's dangerous with long shots and late runs into the box and he won't be required to run back and help the centre backs too much. Then I'd play Luongo as a holder. |
There have been times when he has failed to track back or has done so by trotting, not sprinting. Not that he is the only player guilty of this.
Playing the holding role is not his forte and I totally agree that he is best deployed in an advanced role. That said, in all the time that our players have been playing football, they will definitely have been asked to play in more than role, so they should be more than capable of adapting. It's not like a dentist being told: "No teeth for you today, mate, you're on open heart surgery duty. Off you go".
We definitely need at least one holding midfielder who sticks rigidly to their task and who does not drift upfield, unless another midfielder or striker has stepped in to cover for him temporarily.
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| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 12:44 - Sep 24 with 3565 views | jamois |
We could fit him in at right back, couldn't be worse than Perch-the lurch. |  |
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| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 12:50 - Sep 24 with 3537 views | simmo |
| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 12:44 - Sep 24 by jamois |
We could fit him in at right back, couldn't be worse than Perch-the lurch. |
Perch was excellent against Blackburn and Hull. | |
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| Leroy Fer loses 4k on 13:23 - Sep 24 with 3434 views | Dorse |
Fer has all the attributes to be one of the best players in the Championship. I think losing out on a move to Dick Advocaat's Comedy Football Parody came as a bit of a blow to his career plans (to say nothing of his self-esteem, the poor dear) but if he tears it up with us, I'm sure he'll get his dream move to Stoke, Leicester or Aston Villa at Christmas. |  |
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