| Tax credits cave in 16:58 - Nov 25 with 7353 views | johncharles |
Having been beaten to a pulp by public opinion, the press and the House of Lords, Osborn has dropped the Tax credits cuts. Like it was his idea the greasy toad.
Slippery as a bar of soap in a jar of olive oil. [Post edited 25 Nov 2015 16:59]
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| Tax credits cave in on 00:15 - Nov 26 with 1295 views | TheBlob |
| Tax credits cave in on 00:10 - Nov 26 by isawqpratwcity |
Come on, Blob, 40,000 tonnes is a quarter of all the gold ever mined.
Fair do's on the ports, though. They just bought Darwin, which has got everybody upset, including Obama. |
That's right.They've sucked it in from everywhere.
The yanks have an economy based on paper but they do like to steal a bit of spare bullion if they can. |  |
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| Tax credits cave in on 00:24 - Nov 26 with 1288 views | TheBlob |
| Tax credits cave in on 00:15 - Nov 26 by PunteR |
Gold?.. its all about the Coltan isnt it? |
There's a lot of iron in Oz. | |
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| Tax credits cave in on 00:46 - Nov 26 with 1274 views | Brightonhoop |
| Tax credits cave in on 00:24 - Nov 26 by TheBlob |
There's a lot of iron in Oz. |
Chinaman will invade Oz first for that resource security. |  | | |
| Tax credits cave in on 03:56 - Nov 26 with 1232 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Tax credits cave in on 00:46 - Nov 26 by Brightonhoop |
Chinaman will invade Oz first for that resource security. |
I wish the products of our giant holes-in-the-ground were that much in demand.
The collapse of the world steel industry and the larger Australian miners trying to cut the throats of the smaller Australian miners (ah, Capitalism!) has kyboshed the price of iron ore and coal. China has thus stockpiled years worth, which will have us here sleeping safely in our beds, although we may have to skip supper. |  |
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| Tax credits cave in on 06:46 - Nov 26 with 1156 views | QPR_John |
| Tax credits cave in on 22:13 - Nov 25 by Stanisgod |
Sure sign of someone losing a debate. Pathetic. |
I do not stoop to personal insults and believe me my spelling could be a lot better but when the need arises I am not averse to replying like for like. If you think that the "if you don't understand then I am not explaining it" line works then fine but for me it just suggests you really cannot explain. I can live with that but not with being called a mug. You lost the argument then, I just carried on along the line you had mapped out. [Post edited 26 Nov 2015 6:47]
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| Tax credits cave in on 08:27 - Nov 26 with 1119 views | Discodroids |
Jezz has had somewhere in the region 30 years to refine his message to the great British public , IMHO, The message is Hanna barbara economics, being chums with the unpleasant regimes and organisations in the known cosmos , support for practically unlimited immigration, no defence capability, coupled with absolutely no leadership skills whatsoever and a bunch of supporters who think anyone who doesn't agree with them is Toryscum/Blairitescum or far right scum....a'la the' momentum' group that has infiltrated the labour party
the term 'far right' has been hijacked by these scruff order entities and now basically means anyone who questions the sound economic principles of mass immigration to areas with overwhelmed infastructure.
The hermatically sealed echo chamber of the left has a finite number and mcdonell waving his chinese death squad takeaway in the house of commons will not win them votes outside of that Echo chamber.
That is the narrative. Its coherent to some , Unsurprisingly, its about as popular as a parcel of burning shit thru the letterbox of the country as whole , not the inhabitants that use facebook, twitter and fucblog, but the silent blue rinse assasins at the ballot box. [Post edited 26 Nov 2015 8:40]
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| "...The monkey is never dead, Dealer. The monkey never dies. When you kick him off, he just hides in a corner, waiting his turn." |
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| Tax credits cave in on 08:43 - Nov 26 with 1104 views | MrSheen |
| Tax credits cave in on 08:27 - Nov 26 by Discodroids |
Jezz has had somewhere in the region 30 years to refine his message to the great British public , IMHO, The message is Hanna barbara economics, being chums with the unpleasant regimes and organisations in the known cosmos , support for practically unlimited immigration, no defence capability, coupled with absolutely no leadership skills whatsoever and a bunch of supporters who think anyone who doesn't agree with them is Toryscum/Blairitescum or far right scum....a'la the' momentum' group that has infiltrated the labour party
the term 'far right' has been hijacked by these scruff order entities and now basically means anyone who questions the sound economic principles of mass immigration to areas with overwhelmed infastructure.
The hermatically sealed echo chamber of the left has a finite number and mcdonell waving his chinese death squad takeaway in the house of commons will not win them votes outside of that Echo chamber.
That is the narrative. Its coherent to some , Unsurprisingly, its about as popular as a parcel of burning shit thru the letterbox of the country as whole , not the inhabitants that use facebook, twitter and fucblog, but the silent blue rinse assasins at the ballot box. [Post edited 26 Nov 2015 8:40]
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Hey DD, have you been playing away? Someone has been throwing fireworks under your old nom de guerre. Some horrible posters on that site. |  | | |
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| Tax credits cave in on 08:52 - Nov 26 with 1098 views | FDC |
| Tax credits cave in on 08:27 - Nov 26 by Discodroids |
Jezz has had somewhere in the region 30 years to refine his message to the great British public , IMHO, The message is Hanna barbara economics, being chums with the unpleasant regimes and organisations in the known cosmos , support for practically unlimited immigration, no defence capability, coupled with absolutely no leadership skills whatsoever and a bunch of supporters who think anyone who doesn't agree with them is Toryscum/Blairitescum or far right scum....a'la the' momentum' group that has infiltrated the labour party
the term 'far right' has been hijacked by these scruff order entities and now basically means anyone who questions the sound economic principles of mass immigration to areas with overwhelmed infastructure.
The hermatically sealed echo chamber of the left has a finite number and mcdonell waving his chinese death squad takeaway in the house of commons will not win them votes outside of that Echo chamber.
That is the narrative. Its coherent to some , Unsurprisingly, its about as popular as a parcel of burning shit thru the letterbox of the country as whole , not the inhabitants that use facebook, twitter and fucblog, but the silent blue rinse assasins at the ballot box. [Post edited 26 Nov 2015 8:40]
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Tell you what mate, you don't half chat some balls when you're ranting.
being chums with the unpleasant regimes and organisations in the known cosmos
I assume all the unpleasant regimes and organisations in the known cosmos is Hamas? This is tabloid sensationalism isn't it. In the real world I wouldn't imagine during the Good Friday Peace talks everyone was greeting each other as C*nt, because that's not how negotiating works is it
support for practically unlimited immigration
Really? Must have missed that - got a link? Or is this hyperbole?
no defence capability
Really? Must have missed that too
a bunch of supporters who think anyone who doesn't agree with them is Toryscum/Blairitescum or far right scum....a'la the' momentum' group that has infiltrated the labour party
This is just ad hominem vitriol, and to say Momentum have "infiltrated" the party is hyperbole - they're party members who have formed a campaign group, just like party members of across the spectrum of all parties do - it's hardly Trotskyist entry-ism. |  | | |
| Tax credits cave in on 08:55 - Nov 26 with 1094 views | Discodroids |
| Tax credits cave in on 08:52 - Nov 26 by FDC |
Tell you what mate, you don't half chat some balls when you're ranting.
being chums with the unpleasant regimes and organisations in the known cosmos
I assume all the unpleasant regimes and organisations in the known cosmos is Hamas? This is tabloid sensationalism isn't it. In the real world I wouldn't imagine during the Good Friday Peace talks everyone was greeting each other as C*nt, because that's not how negotiating works is it
support for practically unlimited immigration
Really? Must have missed that - got a link? Or is this hyperbole?
no defence capability
Really? Must have missed that too
a bunch of supporters who think anyone who doesn't agree with them is Toryscum/Blairitescum or far right scum....a'la the' momentum' group that has infiltrated the labour party
This is just ad hominem vitriol, and to say Momentum have "infiltrated" the party is hyperbole - they're party members who have formed a campaign group, just like party members of across the spectrum of all parties do - it's hardly Trotskyist entry-ism. |
whats the view like of england from a different time zone? | |
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| Tax credits cave in on 08:58 - Nov 26 with 1084 views | FDC |
| Tax credits cave in on 08:55 - Nov 26 by Discodroids |
whats the view like of england from a different time zone? |
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| Tax credits cave in on 09:09 - Nov 26 with 1066 views | Discodroids |
| Tax credits cave in on 08:43 - Nov 26 by MrSheen |
Hey DD, have you been playing away? Someone has been throwing fireworks under your old nom de guerre. Some horrible posters on that site. |
The tentacles of many headed hydra run deep Mr Sheen.
Im very much a free spirit , not for me the limitations and harsh parameters of one nom de plume , I simply couldnt operate that way, im not the 2nd from the left mini moog player from Kraftwerk , that requires conformist mechanical structure and of course talent.
I prefer my remedial jackson pollock method. share the love/hate/indifference with a haughty flourish across many different portals..Which would account for the volume of my postings on this website falling off a cliff over the past 3/4 weeks so as not to upset to many sensitive people that live in The killing fields of Hertfordshire or Surrey .
The time has come and indeed passed , to take the show, such as it is, on the road. [Post edited 26 Nov 2015 9:19]
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| "...The monkey is never dead, Dealer. The monkey never dies. When you kick him off, he just hides in a corner, waiting his turn." |
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| Tax credits cave in on 09:44 - Nov 26 with 1031 views | essextaxiboy |
| Tax credits cave in on 23:06 - Nov 25 by 1BobbyHazell |
I'm 95% sure you did but f**k knows how to find it on here. If you say you don't think he's one then fair do's.
As for the 'economic assessment'. You have stated, prior to this thread as well, that his economic ideas/policies are not credible. That's a very confident/arrogant statement to make, putting yourself in the role 'expert assessor'. My question was really just asking you to explain how you came to such a conclusion. I'm guessing that word has appeared more than just a few times in your Information and Viewpoint Provider of choice.
Like I said, it's one of those words people use as though they have reviewed a situation thoroughly and come to some sort of almost empirical conclusion after a meticulous working over of the facts and possibilities. When the truth is, it is normally just an empty word they are parroting in order to denigrate and discredit someone without having applied any genuine critical thinking. Your daily read is an expert in such empty, drastically simplistic pronouncements.
Anyway, I'm looking to end on a positive so I'd like to pass on my admiration for your Rangers posts and general outlook on here in the recent difficult months. |
I found it last night
I did refer to "that lunatics agenda" in a thread that you started about BBC bias.. Well remembered
I didnt mean it in the context of mental health , I hope you didnt take it that way.
I should also confess to buying the Sun once or twice a week for the football coverage , its non existant in the I paper .
Thanks for your kind words
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| Tax credits cave in on 10:57 - Nov 26 with 995 views | paulparker |
which ever way we look at it the country is fcuked either by tory or Labour , both parties couldn't give a rats about the working classes
I feel sorry for those who rely on tax credits like Rangersw12, we get it but it hardly covers a drink in the pub at weekends , me and my Mrs have well paid jobs but we just scrape by and that's on 1 child and owning 2 houses,
the cost of living is stupid how any 1st time buyers can afford a place now is a mystery to me , I feel sorry for those in there 30's who are renting what chance them
its only going to get worse , mass population in this country is making house prices rocket just what these politicians want |  |
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Tax credits cave in on 11:23 - Nov 26 with 960 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Tax credits cave in on 10:57 - Nov 26 by paulparker |
which ever way we look at it the country is fcuked either by tory or Labour , both parties couldn't give a rats about the working classes
I feel sorry for those who rely on tax credits like Rangersw12, we get it but it hardly covers a drink in the pub at weekends , me and my Mrs have well paid jobs but we just scrape by and that's on 1 child and owning 2 houses,
the cost of living is stupid how any 1st time buyers can afford a place now is a mystery to me , I feel sorry for those in there 30's who are renting what chance them
its only going to get worse , mass population in this country is making house prices rocket just what these politicians want |
No government will make lowering house prices a policy as it would be incredibly unpopular as many of us are relying on our houses to make money for our kids or retirement.
Property owners need to treat houses as homes not commodities .
I don't want to get all citizen Smith, but the amount of habitable properties one individual can own should be limited to one in my opinion.
I let out my little studio flat in Shepherds Bush when I moved in with my partner, and it's ridiculous the rent is fetches. I'd vote for any party that limited dwelling ownership to one per person though. [Post edited 26 Nov 2015 11:33]
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| Tax credits cave in on 11:39 - Nov 26 with 938 views | paulparker |
| Tax credits cave in on 11:23 - Nov 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
No government will make lowering house prices a policy as it would be incredibly unpopular as many of us are relying on our houses to make money for our kids or retirement.
Property owners need to treat houses as homes not commodities .
I don't want to get all citizen Smith, but the amount of habitable properties one individual can own should be limited to one in my opinion.
I let out my little studio flat in Shepherds Bush when I moved in with my partner, and it's ridiculous the rent is fetches. I'd vote for any party that limited dwelling ownership to one per person though. [Post edited 26 Nov 2015 11:33]
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Prices now are stupid though Baz and due to mass population its only going to get worse, people are desperate for homes and will pay anything, even getting themselves in debt ,
problem you have now is that Houses are pensions for some people, certainly me , its security for when I get old and frail as I know the government wont give a t0ss about me
out of the 2 we own we only earn around £200 extra on the rent , they are Mortgaged up and still have another 20 years to run, not all landlords are creaming it
I wouldn't want to be taxed anymore than we already are and nor should you just because you have a flat in the bush , you worked hard to get that
god knows what the solution to all this is , I just think us poor saps ie the working classes have been shafted and there aint no coming back | |
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Tax credits cave in on 11:45 - Nov 26 with 927 views | Clive_Anderson |
| Tax credits cave in on 11:23 - Nov 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
No government will make lowering house prices a policy as it would be incredibly unpopular as many of us are relying on our houses to make money for our kids or retirement.
Property owners need to treat houses as homes not commodities .
I don't want to get all citizen Smith, but the amount of habitable properties one individual can own should be limited to one in my opinion.
I let out my little studio flat in Shepherds Bush when I moved in with my partner, and it's ridiculous the rent is fetches. I'd vote for any party that limited dwelling ownership to one per person though. [Post edited 26 Nov 2015 11:33]
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The land footprint for houses in the UK is around 3%. They could up it to 3.5% and they'd be enough cheap housing for everyone, but then the people who own property won't get their unearned money then (including loads of MPs with by to let properties). | | | |
| Tax credits cave in on 11:52 - Nov 26 with 918 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Tax credits cave in on 11:39 - Nov 26 by paulparker |
Prices now are stupid though Baz and due to mass population its only going to get worse, people are desperate for homes and will pay anything, even getting themselves in debt ,
problem you have now is that Houses are pensions for some people, certainly me , its security for when I get old and frail as I know the government wont give a t0ss about me
out of the 2 we own we only earn around £200 extra on the rent , they are Mortgaged up and still have another 20 years to run, not all landlords are creaming it
I wouldn't want to be taxed anymore than we already are and nor should you just because you have a flat in the bush , you worked hard to get that
god knows what the solution to all this is , I just think us poor saps ie the working classes have been shafted and there aint no coming back |
I agree they can't punish all landlords. I hear somewhere that 1/5 actually make a loss.
Yeah it's proper mess. Wages need to go up, or prices go down. | | | |
| Tax credits cave in on 12:27 - Nov 26 with 892 views | robith |
| Tax credits cave in on 20:45 - Nov 25 by Discodroids |
the likes of me would like to take a further pivotal role in this debate, but ive got the end of' Predator' to watch and Arnies clicking up a few gears , stomping the rasta aliens head all over the jungle.
Dont know what essex taxi is up to, probably watching 'only fools and horses' and del falling through the bar hatch.
were like that, the likes of us. the likes of me and essex.
Once again news outlets smear Corbyn and McDonnell by using film of them saying things and showing it on the news. [Post edited 25 Nov 2015 20:48]
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Predator is a proper classic, I think we can all agree on that
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| Tax credits cave in on 12:33 - Nov 26 with 881 views | Discodroids |
| Tax credits cave in on 12:27 - Nov 26 by robith |
Predator is a proper classic, I think we can all agree on that
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no matter how we try , we just cant help but get along lately can we.
i like it.
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| "...The monkey is never dead, Dealer. The monkey never dies. When you kick him off, he just hides in a corner, waiting his turn." |
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| Tax credits cave in on 12:46 - Nov 26 with 867 views | robith |
| Tax credits cave in on 12:33 - Nov 26 by Discodroids |
no matter how we try , we just cant help but get along lately can we.
i like it.
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I like it too.
I used to get all het up, but I disliked the person that made me. We have different opinions, let's shoot the proverbial. No one ever changed their mind in an argument, but they did in a discussion
Also as an aside - on how many football forums can you say there's a been a broadly civil discussion of macro economic principle? Love this place | | | |
| Tax credits cave in on 21:48 - Nov 26 with 730 views | baz_qpr |
Osborne is a bit of a cretin and a dangerous one at that because he thinks he's some political genius. Its not rocket science to understand that if you cut at the bottom you withdraw money out of the supply of the economy. If you really want to reduce the deficit you allow money at the bottom to flow as it was because every single penny of it gets spent and recycled within the economy, you need to push income from stagnant capital sources back into the economy either by encouraging investment or by taxing it and certainly not create a situation where money supply is sucked out and hoarded by large corporate enterties or inflated property prices.
Osborne's growth is a sham just like Browns its fuelled by banking, a top end property boom, wage suppression and inflation being held down by the low oil price. |  | | |
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