| Without Polter 19:06 - May 2 with 4752 views | davman |
...we got NOTHING up front...
I really want to like Washington and agree that he hasn't had much of a crack, but Jimmy's gotta be concerned that without Polter (and some times even with him) that ball just simply doesn't stick down the oppositions end, does it?
It didn't help that we still revert to the hopeful pump up front regardless of who's up top and that isn't Washington's strength, but the ball kept breaking away from us once Seb went off.
Today, Seb was lucky to stay on the pitch as that 4th minute tackle on Barton (although pleasing to see...) was a red all day long.
We go into yet ANOTHER transfer window (around 8 of them by my reckoning) at least two strikers short.
Still, at least we appear to be well covered when Phillips and Hoilett go - Petresso looked good at least even if the jury is still out on El Khayati and Gladwin...
Not an awful performance today as Burnley were lucky - 2 shots on target says it all, but it was inevitable, wasn't it?
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| Without Polter on 19:12 - May 2 with 3543 views | QPR_Jim |
Hopefully we'll change our style of play next season so we'll be able to play Washington up front more effectively. |  | | |
| Without Polter on 19:14 - May 2 with 3521 views | RuislipHoop |
I would like to think so but wouldn't you be trying to play a system now |  | | |
| Without Polter on 19:17 - May 2 with 3491 views | Toast_R |
Lets face it, since 2013 we've relied on Charlie Austin for goals. There's been far too few from midfield and the style of play as a whole just don't seem to weald goals.
I think there needs to be a serious back to the drawing board session in the summer. How do they want to team to play and who can the recruit to do it?
I'd like to see some Gigi Di Canio fused with Paulo Sousa kinda sh*t [Post edited 2 May 2016 19:20]
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| Without Polter on 19:19 - May 2 with 3476 views | TacticalR |
The only way bringing Washington on is going to work (if Polter's not on) is immediately changing our style of play as soon as he comes on, and that's easier said than done. |  |
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| Without Polter on 19:28 - May 2 with 3414 views | isawqpratwcity |
Lose Phillips and then we don't have to keep wondering when he's going to turn up. |  |
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| Without Polter on 19:38 - May 2 with 3357 views | HollowayRanger |
when was the last time we had a decent unit of 3 strikers? |  |
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| Without Polter on 19:53 - May 2 with 3275 views | bosh67 |
Polter will improve close season. Chery will be more settled. Washington needs a proper run in pre-season and we need to find a couple more, big out and out strikers. I think we may get one in a few weeks time. |  |
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| Without Polter on 20:14 - May 2 with 3198 views | BlackCrowe |
| Without Polter on 19:53 - May 2 by bosh67 |
Polter will improve close season. Chery will be more settled. Washington needs a proper run in pre-season and we need to find a couple more, big out and out strikers. I think we may get one in a few weeks time. |
Much as I want to as i love his effort and the disruption he causes in the oppo box, but I just can't see Polter as the spearhead of a promotion pushing side in Championship. League 1 maybe. But very happy to be proved very wrong. |  |
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| Without Polter on 20:32 - May 2 with 3136 views | 08olesen |
It all depends on how we play. If we are hoofing it like we did today then i dont understand why we wouldnt play Polter and Washington together in a 442.
If we are playing a 433 then we shouldn't be hoofing it in the first place. I actually felt bad for seb today. Some of the balls he was asked to control were horrendous, i dont think Ibrahimovic would of held them up.
I think we should stick with the 433 because it makes for far better football eventually IMO. But the midfield need to start taking a risk on the ball because we always seem to pass it back to Hall or Hill who just hoofs it aimlessly up field to Polter.
As for another striker. Kane Hemmings has a 250k release clause and has scored 20 for Dundee this year. Still only 25. Would be worth a punt. |  |
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| Without Polter on 21:11 - May 2 with 3016 views | WestonsuperR |
Surely it's time to admit that Washington is struggling, keep seeing that we should give him a run in the team but that must be 10+ appearances now and no goals. I like the look of him and certainly not giving up on him so early in his career with us but a loan next season may be the answer as really can't see how he could help us get into the top 6. |  | | |
| Without Polter on 21:17 - May 2 with 2981 views | QPRDave |
| Without Polter on 19:38 - May 2 by HollowayRanger |
when was the last time we had a decent unit of 3 strikers? |
Les, Bradley, Penrice/Gallen? |  | | |
| Without Polter on 21:27 - May 2 with 2943 views | WeaverQPR |
Need two first choice forwards |  |
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| Without Polter on 21:29 - May 2 with 2930 views | Stanisgod |
| Without Polter on 20:14 - May 2 by BlackCrowe |
Much as I want to as i love his effort and the disruption he causes in the oppo box, but I just can't see Polter as the spearhead of a promotion pushing side in Championship. League 1 maybe. But very happy to be proved very wrong. |
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| Without Polter on 21:48 - May 2 with 2882 views | CamberleyR |
| Without Polter on 21:17 - May 2 by QPRDave |
Les, Bradley, Penrice/Gallen? |
Furs, Gallen, Thorpe, Cureton. |  |
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| Without Polter on 22:22 - May 2 with 2785 views | Northernr |
Never mind any of this, it took Polter just three minutes today to absolutely hack into the back of Barton. German ancestry has never been a barrier to being king of England before and he gets my vote. |  | | |
| Without Polter on 22:34 - May 2 with 2726 views | Hitch |
| Without Polter on 22:22 - May 2 by Northernr |
Never mind any of this, it took Polter just three minutes today to absolutely hack into the back of Barton. German ancestry has never been a barrier to being king of England before and he gets my vote. |
Barton had the last laugh at us though Northern. He told us all how good he was, didn't he. Its like that useless prick you used to work with who marries the bosses daughter and becomes ceo. Cnt. |  | | |
| Without Polter on 22:51 - May 2 with 2663 views | PunteR |
Polter is a menace up front regardless of his football ability. He's definatly a useful player for us. He needs players around him though. I think he would be better in a 442. |  |
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| Without Polter on 22:56 - May 2 with 2641 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Without Polter on 22:51 - May 2 by PunteR |
Polter is a menace up front regardless of his football ability. He's definatly a useful player for us. He needs players around him though. I think he would be better in a 442. |
True and he would be even better chained to the bench, feed raw meat and brought on when needed to replace one of the other two, you know, actual strikers.
This being said, if some of our more expensively acquired players of late put as much effort in as he does, we'd be celebrating Chelsea handing us the title tonight!!!! |  |
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| Without Polter on 23:21 - May 2 with 2591 views | PunteR |
| Without Polter on 22:56 - May 2 by PlanetHonneywood |
True and he would be even better chained to the bench, feed raw meat and brought on when needed to replace one of the other two, you know, actual strikers.
This being said, if some of our more expensively acquired players of late put as much effort in as he does, we'd be celebrating Chelsea handing us the title tonight!!!! |
Imagin Polter and Diakite on the same pitch together... | |
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| Without Polter on 09:03 - May 3 with 2262 views | Discodroids |
I know this will go down like a high rise Dachau single mother on a 90's Bendover Gonzo scud flick ,but Imo i think were even worse with Him. Polters a great Great character but then so was Arthur Birmingham, my Grandads jewish minder .
Busts his teutonic balls for the team and impeccable attitude . I cannot fault him for his bravery, application , relentless ambition and his unquenchable thirst to succeed.
This is a forum to express opinions and im sorry, but he is what it says on the tin. A Mid ranking Goalkeeper in the mould of Mervyn Day with the heart of a lion and playing as a centre forward. It wouldnt surprise me if he proved me wrong such is his desire and willingness to learn his craft. I just dont think he has the basic tools to be anything more than League one, and i feel thats pushing it a bit. [Post edited 3 May 2016 9:06]
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| Without Polter on 09:13 - May 3 with 2226 views | mcqpr10 |
I really like Polter, i think he's doing a great job up top. Never going to bag 20 goals a season but defenders hate playing against him, really winds opposition up. With Washington's runs you would think they would be an ideal partnership and complement each other well but we've not really seen them on the pitch together.
Much will depend on who goes out Hoillet/Phillips. If we play Chery it has to be number 10. Washington drops out. Also i don't think we have the all round central midfielders to play 4 in midfield. We lack dynamism and aggression. | | | |
| Without Polter on 10:52 - May 3 with 2131 views | The_Mole |
Do we find ourselves in the same situation as previously with yet another Jamie Mackie?
I think Seb would benefit with another striker up with him; similar to the Dichio/Spencer partnership...
The problem with this though, is our current midfield two need protecting and so probably why we play a 4-2-3-1. If we were to accommodate Polter in a 4-4-2, then we would most definitely need two new midfielders who can do box to box and cover the ground that the no.10 would do normally. |  | | |
| Without Polter on 10:59 - May 3 with 2119 views | davman |
| Without Polter on 10:52 - May 3 by The_Mole |
Do we find ourselves in the same situation as previously with yet another Jamie Mackie?
I think Seb would benefit with another striker up with him; similar to the Dichio/Spencer partnership...
The problem with this though, is our current midfield two need protecting and so probably why we play a 4-2-3-1. If we were to accommodate Polter in a 4-4-2, then we would most definitely need two new midfielders who can do box to box and cover the ground that the no.10 would do normally. |
You are right, but how comes other teams CAN play two in the centre of midfield and get away with it?
That tells me that we do not have the right two in the middle of the park. You'd kind of think that Luongo and Faurlin should be good enough, but are they PHYSICAL enough? I think that Henry has been undersold on this Forum as he is extremely good at being the physical presence in there; clearly, the rest of his game is limited. In the same way, Faurlin is the best passer / playmaker we have, but his physical presence and stamina are, understandably, also limited.
A real dilemma - do we stick with the 4-4-1-1 and employ a solid lone front man, or do we go for 4-4-2 and employ a central midfield partnership? I think that we have recruited for the first of these two, so that has to be the option, doesn't it? | |
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| Without Polter on 11:06 - May 3 with 2103 views | westberksr |
I think we are trying to get the right team structure and depending on the formation you have the difficulty that if Chery plays its likely that Washington won't. if that's the case then Chery needs to be right up on TBG's shoulder as Polter knows how to involve those around him (as shown with the knockdown to Phillips y'day and the numerous clever balls for overlapping players)
I'd like to see if we can play 2 up top but then as others have mentioned we don't have adequate legs in centre midfield to still accomodate Chery too.
something for JFH to ponder over the break.
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| Without Polter on 11:16 - May 3 with 2084 views | paulparker |
| Without Polter on 09:03 - May 3 by Discodroids |
I know this will go down like a high rise Dachau single mother on a 90's Bendover Gonzo scud flick ,but Imo i think were even worse with Him. Polters a great Great character but then so was Arthur Birmingham, my Grandads jewish minder .
Busts his teutonic balls for the team and impeccable attitude . I cannot fault him for his bravery, application , relentless ambition and his unquenchable thirst to succeed.
This is a forum to express opinions and im sorry, but he is what it says on the tin. A Mid ranking Goalkeeper in the mould of Mervyn Day with the heart of a lion and playing as a centre forward. It wouldnt surprise me if he proved me wrong such is his desire and willingness to learn his craft. I just dont think he has the basic tools to be anything more than League one, and i feel thats pushing it a bit. [Post edited 3 May 2016 9:06]
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Tend to agree with you Disco , I like Polter but he shouldn't be starting every game up top on his own , yes he runs his nuts off but yesterday was a perfect example of what's been the norm
ie hopless punt to Polter to chase with our 3 behind either not supporting or who then go and lose possession when they do get it, if that's the case and if we are going to continue doing that we will need a lot better than polter up top
I like JFH but I don't understand why he hasn't played Polter and Washington together for a run of 3 or 4 games surely it would be beneficial to build a partnership considering they will both be here next season |  |
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