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If the FA had any sense they would take away that £3m wage and invest £2.95m of it in English coaching. Then times it by ten. The dearth of talent is horrific and the future is truly bleak.
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:11 - Sep 27 with 1825 views
Cheers, it's for subscribers only, can you copy and paste whole article? Sounds like they have reached a decision wanting to meet with him first before implementing it....
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:11 - Sep 27 with 1825 views
Utter fool, don't see any way round it for him but to go, still dare say he'll get something of a pay out but his career in football in UK at least is surely over. China or Middle East his only hopes if he so desired. Even media gigs would be out you'd think.
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:12 - Sep 27 with 1824 views
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 12:22 - Sep 27 by simmo
He's a fat greedy idiot and deserves what he gets. Honestly, you've just landed your dream job for £3m a year and before the ink is dry on your contract you negotiate a shady way to earn another 450 grand.
Twát.
That was my overriding feeling as well. Maybe not guilty of corruption by definition but greedy and obnoxious. The saddest. most childish and most pathetic part was 'Woy'. Where's your pride, man?
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Greed is human nature, which is why judgement matters so much. I can't see him surviving this on poor judgement alone, he had his advisors around him, did no one stop to think? FA will be a world wide laughing stock if he isn't sacked for gross misconduct at least.
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:20 - Sep 27 with 1792 views
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:17 - Sep 27 by Brightonhoop
Greed is human nature, which is why judgement matters so much. I can't see him surviving this on poor judgement alone, he had his advisors around him, did no one stop to think? FA will be a world wide laughing stock if he isn't sacked for gross misconduct at least.
how can he be sacked for gross misconduct? I reckon if he's sacked he'll have a strong case to sue to the FA. This will be the 3rd England manager to lose his job due to undercover journalists, you'd think they might want to chase real crooks
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:23 - Sep 27 with 1780 views
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:20 - Sep 27 by daveB
how can he be sacked for gross misconduct? I reckon if he's sacked he'll have a strong case to sue to the FA. This will be the 3rd England manager to lose his job due to undercover journalists, you'd think they might want to chase real crooks
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Advising investors they can get around rules outlawing ownership of economic rights of players. Can't viably do that and Manage England when the FA ruled it out in 2008 and FIFA outlawed i soon after.
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:27 - Sep 27 by Brightonhoop
Advising investors they can get around rules outlawing ownership of economic rights of players. Can't viably do that and Manage England when the FA ruled it out in 2008 and FIFA outlawed i soon after.
What else is he upto, throwing games?
But what he said isn't wrong, you can get around third part ownership but buying the third party out which is within the laws. The dodgy bit was saying they should buy the agent and get a cut of his percentage but again not actually breaking any rules.
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:37 - Sep 27 with 1714 views
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:29 - Sep 27 by daveB
But what he said isn't wrong, you can get around third part ownership but buying the third party out which is within the laws. The dodgy bit was saying they should buy the agent and get a cut of his percentage but again not actually breaking any rules.
That's certainly the problem, he is operating in grey areas where he can't be seen to be operating.
I think he's fooked.
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:41 - Sep 27 with 1697 views
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:20 - Sep 27 by daveB
how can he be sacked for gross misconduct? I reckon if he's sacked he'll have a strong case to sue to the FA. This will be the 3rd England manager to lose his job due to undercover journalists, you'd think they might want to chase real crooks
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People are getting their bollocks shot off reporting in Syria, Yemen, or Sudan every day, but we're the dickheads (the readers) who are lapping up this shit and stuff like it.
They don't go chasing real crooks because we want them to tell us about celebrity gossip or transfer window speculation instead.
The Sun: Circulation 2.2 million
The Observer: Circulation 710 thousand
Yes I am aware what a self righteous prick I look.
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 14:35 - Sep 27 with 1574 views
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 11:22 - Sep 27 by Hunterhoop
Baz, have you actually listened to the recording or read the transcript.
This isn't the same thing as the sting a few years ago by Panarama that Clive refers to, which did look damning.
This is simply a bloke using his position to sell himself as a speaker. It happens in politics and business all the time. Not pretty, but it's not a "club's" money or a "fan's" money he' taking; it would be the money of the (fake) firm.
The fact he keeps saying he'd need to clear his involvement with the FA saves him. Only he and the FA know whether his contract expressly forbids him to perform private roles or public speaking whilst in the role.
The bigger issue in here for Sam is the whole 3rd party ownership stuff. Again, he doesn't do or say anything wrong per se. He just says there are ways around the rules, which several managers and agents are exploiting. I can imagine, he'll get off here providing he agrees to "help" the FA with their investigations. He may have to throw a few people under buses, but that'll likely be it. The bigger risk for him is anyone he does throw under a bus then dishing real dirt on him. There's an outside chance this sort of dobbing in could snowball and bring down the whole charade, but I'd imagine too many people are implicated and it'll get brushed under the carpet with a couple of agents taking the fall.
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 13:38 - Sep 27 by Brightonhoop
That's certainly the problem, he is operating in grey areas where he can't be seen to be operating.
I think he's fooked.
Thing is reporters have basically offered him a fake job for 450k which breaks no rules, possibly it goes against his contract with the FA which is where he will be in trouble but if not then he's done nothing wrong. He even says he'll need to clear it with the FA before e accepts anything
They then try and trap him talking about bungs to push transfers through which he quickly tells them can't be done and then on 3rd part ownership basically says yeah you can do it but they have rules and this is what you need to do to push it through.
If he's gone looking for the work then yeah he's a prat but much like the fake sheikh offering Sven the Chelsea job when his England contract was up I think the journalists involved have created this shit storm to sell papers rather than expose anything as nothing has really been exposed here.
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 15:10 - Sep 27 with 1468 views
Who really gives a sh1t , if the fella can get us to a Qtr final of a tournament then its happy days , lets face it the press have hounded out the likes of Bobby, El tel, Sven, Hoddle over the years for non footballing reasons which leaves us with the likes of Woy & McLaren and we wonder why we are terrible as a footballing nation worse still we could give it to Pardew , im sure he would sort out the players wives
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 16:00 - Sep 27 with 1342 views
Not looking good for Big Sam.... on 15:27 - Sep 27 by paulparker
Who really gives a sh1t , if the fella can get us to a Qtr final of a tournament then its happy days , lets face it the press have hounded out the likes of Bobby, El tel, Sven, Hoddle over the years for non footballing reasons which leaves us with the likes of Woy & McLaren and we wonder why we are terrible as a footballing nation worse still we could give it to Pardew , im sure he would sort out the players wives
I heard from somebody ITK that Pardew and Allardyce had a dance of and that's how Allardyce got the job. The correct decision, imo.
(1) Sam Allardyce is a horrible tw at who was so far up Alex Ferguson's ar se that the Fire brigade had to cut him out.
(2) He should have been sacked when he claimed it wasn't any of his business where Rooney decided to play for England v Slovakia. Yeah, you're on £3m pa to lay the cones out and make sure everyone's on the bus after games, you fat cu nt.
(3) A six year old giving it "Woy" is cause for embarrassment, a sixty year old bloke? Deary me.