| Theresa May 21:20 - Jun 10 with 23149 views | easthertsr |
Has there ever been a poorer election campaign? I'm trying to think of a more incompetent, awful, pitiful effort. A year of saying that you won't call an early election. Then you do after a budget u turn. Then you do another u turn in the middle of the campaign. All the while you refuse to take part in the televised debate. I'm trying to think of a reason why this talentless woman should be prime minister but I've run out of any excuse! |  | | |  |
| Theresa May on 13:37 - Jun 12 with 2558 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Theresa May on 13:05 - Jun 12 by TacticalR |
Or is it managing Britain and the British economy that is the poisoned chalice? If so Brexit is only an expression of the problem. |
Well it was at the time of the EU referendum
Austerity breeded the leave vote like a puppy farm. [Post edited 12 Jun 2017 13:38]
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| Theresa May on 13:47 - Jun 12 with 2526 views | hubble |
| Theresa May on 22:47 - Jun 10 by Northernr |
The election - more votes, more seats.
I'm being slightly contrary here because obviously it was a fcking disaster for her but the tories did still 'win' and Labour finished second.
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Don't see how you can call this a win in any sense. She didn't win more seats, she lost seats, lost her majority, lost on what she called the election for in the first place: a mandate to go into the Brexit negotiations with a strong hand and majority, lost all credibility, lost the confidence of her party, lost on policies and ceded a huge amount of ground to a Labour party she thought was on the ropes and instead produced the greatest gains in post-war history. Even playing devil's advocate, you have to call that a loss!
Peter Hitchens has produced a typically pithy and damning analysis of the election, worth a read:
"Theresa's Tories... as useful as a zombie on a broken bike"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4592398/PETER-HITCHENS-Theresa-s-Torie |  |
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| Theresa May on 13:51 - Jun 12 with 2513 views | ElHoop |
| Theresa May on 12:41 - Jun 12 by essextaxiboy |
She could easily be gone by the morning . She meets the 1922 committee of backbenchers tonight ; brought forward a day by them . They are ruthless , if they want her gone she is toast .. |
Can't see them getting rid of her, even if they want her gone.
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| Theresa May on 14:06 - Jun 12 with 2477 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Theresa May on 13:47 - Jun 12 by hubble |
Don't see how you can call this a win in any sense. She didn't win more seats, she lost seats, lost her majority, lost on what she called the election for in the first place: a mandate to go into the Brexit negotiations with a strong hand and majority, lost all credibility, lost the confidence of her party, lost on policies and ceded a huge amount of ground to a Labour party she thought was on the ropes and instead produced the greatest gains in post-war history. Even playing devil's advocate, you have to call that a loss!
Peter Hitchens has produced a typically pithy and damning analysis of the election, worth a read:
"Theresa's Tories... as useful as a zombie on a broken bike"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4592398/PETER-HITCHENS-Theresa-s-Torie |
When the tory press turn on the tories and give praise to corbyn it's like the fall of Rome.
Hail the people's republic | |
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| Theresa May on 14:21 - Jun 12 with 2438 views | paulparker |
| Theresa May on 14:06 - Jun 12 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
When the tory press turn on the tories and give praise to corbyn it's like the fall of Rome.
Hail the people's republic |
What times your medication ? |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Theresa May on 14:23 - Jun 12 with 2431 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Theresa May on 14:21 - Jun 12 by paulparker |
What times your medication ? |
As soon as they put a shilling in the leccy | |
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| Theresa May on 14:48 - Jun 12 with 2363 views | paulparker |
I don't disagree the NHS is a shambles to me it always has been even under the thatcher, major, blair & brown years
if it was up to me id pay some of these nurses 3 times their salary | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Theresa May on 15:12 - Jun 12 with 2327 views | TacticalR |
So are Prime Ministers becoming like football managers? (Before revered figures of authority, now dismissed after a few bad results). |  |
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| Theresa May on 15:20 - Jun 12 with 2300 views | danehoop |
| Theresa May on 15:12 - Jun 12 by TacticalR |
So are Prime Ministers becoming like football managers? (Before revered figures of authority, now dismissed after a few bad results). |
Its a numbers game. It is what it is. If you dont get the points on the board etc... |  |
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| Theresa May on 10:31 - Jun 13 with 2169 views | GloryHunter |
I am starting to get genuinely worried now. We are in a constitutional crisis and the people who are supposed to be in charge don't appear to have a clue what to do. |  | | |
| Theresa May on 11:29 - Jun 13 with 2097 views | stevec |
Theresa May is probably ideal for the Brexit process, no need for any original thought or ideas, just has to rubber stamp anything put in front of her.
Once that's more or less sorted, in comes Boris and the Left will be cacking themselves. |  | | |
| Theresa May on 11:43 - Jun 13 with 2077 views | Northernr |
| Theresa May on 11:29 - Jun 13 by stevec |
Theresa May is probably ideal for the Brexit process, no need for any original thought or ideas, just has to rubber stamp anything put in front of her.
Once that's more or less sorted, in comes Boris and the Left will be cacking themselves. |
The whole country should be cacking themselves as soon as that fcking knobber is in charge of anything. |  | | |
| Theresa May on 11:45 - Jun 13 with 2068 views | Northernr |
| Theresa May on 13:47 - Jun 12 by hubble |
Don't see how you can call this a win in any sense. She didn't win more seats, she lost seats, lost her majority, lost on what she called the election for in the first place: a mandate to go into the Brexit negotiations with a strong hand and majority, lost all credibility, lost the confidence of her party, lost on policies and ceded a huge amount of ground to a Labour party she thought was on the ropes and instead produced the greatest gains in post-war history. Even playing devil's advocate, you have to call that a loss!
Peter Hitchens has produced a typically pithy and damning analysis of the election, worth a read:
"Theresa's Tories... as useful as a zombie on a broken bike"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4592398/PETER-HITCHENS-Theresa-s-Torie |
So why isn't Corbyn the prime minister this morning? | | | |
| Theresa May on 11:56 - Jun 13 with 2033 views | johncharles |
| Theresa May on 11:45 - Jun 13 by Northernr |
So why isn't Corbyn the prime minister this morning? |
Mainly because his whole leadership has been hampered by the pseudo Tory centrists who are now trying to sneak back as if no one would notice. Even Polly Toynbee has joined the Jeremy fan club. |  |
| Strong and stable my arse. |
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| Theresa May on 12:00 - Jun 13 with 2016 views | Northernr |
| Theresa May on 11:56 - Jun 13 by johncharles |
Mainly because his whole leadership has been hampered by the pseudo Tory centrists who are now trying to sneak back as if no one would notice. Even Polly Toynbee has joined the Jeremy fan club. |
Or... didn't get as many votes or seats as the worst election campaign anybody can ever remember. | | | |
| Theresa May on 12:10 - Jun 13 with 1991 views | easthertsr |
| Theresa May on 12:00 - Jun 13 by Northernr |
Or... didn't get as many votes or seats as the worst election campaign anybody can ever remember. |
North, a letter in the paper today sums up the situation perfectly. Think of the election as the first leg of a European Cup tie. The Tories, who hold the cup are expected to win the home first leg six nil even with half of their first team out. The manage with an appalling inept display to lose it. They are still champions, but they are in terrible trouble for the second leg!
P.S. If the DUP ask for cash to fund stuff in Ulster do you think May might miraculously find the Magic Money Tree? | | | |
| Theresa May on 12:11 - Jun 13 with 1986 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| Theresa May on 12:00 - Jun 13 by Northernr |
Or... didn't get as many votes or seats as the worst election campaign anybody can ever remember. |
Yeah, it's a real shame Owen Smith didn't beat him in the leadership election, his brand of 'effective opposition' would have swept Labour into power. |  | | |
| Theresa May on 12:13 - Jun 13 with 1984 views | johncharles |
| Theresa May on 12:00 - Jun 13 by Northernr |
Or... didn't get as many votes or seats as the worst election campaign anybody can ever remember. |
Because the Tories had such a head start. If this had been a race, say 100 metres, the Tories would start 60 metres in front of Labour. | |
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| Theresa May on 12:17 - Jun 13 with 1971 views | FDC |
| Theresa May on 12:00 - Jun 13 by Northernr |
Or... didn't get as many votes or seats as the worst election campaign anybody can ever remember. |
Given the rabid media campaign and negative briefing by much of the PLP the result is a triumph. |  | | |
| Theresa May on 12:20 - Jun 13 with 1965 views | stevec |
| Theresa May on 11:43 - Jun 13 by Northernr |
The whole country should be cacking themselves as soon as that fcking knobber is in charge of anything. |
Heh, Heh. I do think, however, his intelligence is somewhat underestimated.
More importantly, he spots the mood. To go for the Leave side was a huge gamble on his part but he called it right. To beat any Labour politician in London also takes some doing.
Sooner or later the Tory party will wake up to the fact we don't want fckin pen pushers in charge (much like the Left have embraced Corbyn). | | | |
| Theresa May on 12:23 - Jun 13 with 1961 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| Theresa May on 12:17 - Jun 13 by FDC |
Given the rabid media campaign and negative briefing by much of the PLP the result is a triumph. |
Quite. I posted this in another thread but worth putting here as well.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/06/jeremy-corbyn-unelectable-
Very well put.
"The trouble with received wisdom is that it rarely comes with a receipt. With the provenance of the “wisdom” unacknowledged, the recipient passed it on as though it were the self-evident expression of their own genius: an inarguable fact plucked from a clear blue sky.
For the past two years, it has been received wisdom that, when put before the national electorate, the Labour party under Corbyn was unelectable. Not simply that it would lose, but that there was no plausible way it could compete. These were not presented as opinions but as facts. Those who questioned them were treated like climate change deniers. Those who held the wisdom were the scientists. To take Labour’s prospects seriously under Corbyn was to abandon being taken seriously yourself.
The political class imparted as much to the media class, and the media class duly printed and broadcast it. The political class, drawn for the most part from the same social class as their media counterparts, then took those articles and bulletins and presented them as evidence. The wisdom was distributed to all who mattered. Those who did not receive it did not, by definition, matter. Within this fetid ecosystem the air was too stale for new ideas to grow." | | | |
| Theresa May on 12:33 - Jun 13 with 1933 views | essextaxiboy |
| Theresa May on 12:10 - Jun 13 by easthertsr |
North, a letter in the paper today sums up the situation perfectly. Think of the election as the first leg of a European Cup tie. The Tories, who hold the cup are expected to win the home first leg six nil even with half of their first team out. The manage with an appalling inept display to lose it. They are still champions, but they are in terrible trouble for the second leg!
P.S. If the DUP ask for cash to fund stuff in Ulster do you think May might miraculously find the Magic Money Tree? |
Yes but they didnt lose the first leg , they won it with a dodgy last minute goal despite being dire .
A moral victory or not getting thrashed merely beaten does not mean you take the cup home . |  | | |
| Theresa May on 12:50 - Jun 13 with 1900 views | DannytheR |
It just seems so incredibly telling that May has done the apologies and promises to learn from her mistakes behind closed doors for the rest of the cabinet, even offering financial help to ex Tory MPs who just lost their seats.
And the public get "I'm here for five years - on with the job." Like nothing ever happened.
Absolutely says it all. |  | | |
| Theresa May on 13:08 - Jun 13 with 1858 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Theresa May on 12:00 - Jun 13 by Northernr |
Or... didn't get as many votes or seats as the worst election campaign anybody can ever remember. |
I'm sure that's the smug tory answer but even they know this is a very bad result and now swimming in the cesspit that is the DUP, you call that a win ? [Post edited 13 Jun 2017 13:09]
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