| This is going to really annoy some people on 10:37 - Feb 3 with 1237 views | kensalriser |
Lol. Obvious, isn't it? Why else would right wing governments, which tend to protect the minority rich/elite, ever get elected? |  |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 10:47 - Feb 3 with 1184 views | kropotkin41 |
Of course this doesn't apply to the leaders of the "the Right" and the elites they serve; it just applies to the muppets who vote for them; put on funny uniforms and fight for them; buy into convenient myths of nationalism and chauvinism and then live their lives in the interests of their rulers.
However, so much of what we believe and think we know comes from how we are raised and (mis)informed; I think often the political postures we take have less to do with what might be called intelligence than with the ideological environment in which we live and learn.
Some people will blithely say "Oh well, no-one wants a radical alternative because they are all stupid" or "true socialism can't work because people are thick/selfish", but truthfully most people (all of us) most often do stupid things not because we're stupid but because we have never been taught how to question, how to think, or that we might believe that the world might be organised another way or any number of other ways. |  |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 10:50 - Feb 3 with 1163 views | TheBlob |
Here we go again.
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 10:58 - Feb 3 with 1129 views | kropotkin41 |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 10:50 - Feb 3 by TheBlob |
Here we go again.
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Deep snow and -10C outside; too much time on my hands! | |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 11:03 - Feb 3 with 1115 views | TheBlob |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 10:58 - Feb 3 by kropotkin41 |
Deep snow and -10C outside; too much time on my hands! |
You must be in Wales then.
I wouldn't take any chapter or verse from psychologists.They're all nuts,they have to be to empathise with their subject.I had a row with one over betting and short selling shares.His argument being if you preferred instant gratification to long term investment/burgeoning relationships,marked you out as a psychopath.So I said don't be a khunt and kneed him in the bollocks. | |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 11:06 - Feb 3 with 1094 views | Jeff |
Genuinely thought that this was going to be some sort of Spirited defence of Shaun Wright-Phillips... |  |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 11:08 - Feb 3 with 1086 views | TW_R |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 11:06 - Feb 3 by Jeff |
Genuinely thought that this was going to be some sort of Spirited defence of Shaun Wright-Phillips... |
Lol - me too! Very disappointed. |  | | |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 11:09 - Feb 3 with 1083 views | TheBlob |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 11:06 - Feb 3 by Jeff |
Genuinely thought that this was going to be some sort of Spirited defence of Shaun Wright-Phillips... |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:10 - Feb 3 with 974 views | Clive_Anderson |
Considering the study confuses authoritarianism with being right-wing I wouldn't take it too seriously. |  | | |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:16 - Feb 3 with 959 views | QPunkR |
True dat. Shaun Sheidt-Phillips has no authority about him whatsoever! |  |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:20 - Feb 3 with 939 views | CanadaRanger |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:10 - Feb 3 by Clive_Anderson |
Considering the study confuses authoritarianism with being right-wing I wouldn't take it too seriously. |
Political clock face = Left of centre at 9 o'clock, Right of centre at 3 o'clock, Populist at 12 o'clock and Authoritarian at 6 o'clock.
My own leanings would be about 1 o'clock... strongly populist and a bit right of centre.
If that makes me less intelligent than the communists (7 o'clock... strongly authoritarian, left of centre) so be it...
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:27 - Feb 3 with 904 views | Clive_Anderson |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:20 - Feb 3 by CanadaRanger |
Political clock face = Left of centre at 9 o'clock, Right of centre at 3 o'clock, Populist at 12 o'clock and Authoritarian at 6 o'clock.
My own leanings would be about 1 o'clock... strongly populist and a bit right of centre.
If that makes me less intelligent than the communists (7 o'clock... strongly authoritarian, left of centre) so be it...
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Exactly. There's a recent trend for anything people don't like to be branded 'right wing'.
Right-wing politics is all about small government and personal freedom.
Blair increased the size and powers of the state massively, but apparently he was right wing too for some unknown reason.
I also have a hard time believing that the professionally unemployed who vote for Labour in their droves are more intelligent than small business owners who tend to vote Conservative. But hey the study says so, so it must be true. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 14:05 - Feb 3 with 803 views | TheBlob |
Was going to post the other day,why is it you can only be classed as an "Intellectual" if you're left wing?But I decided to order a pizza over the phone instead. | |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 14:31 - Feb 3 with 744 views | baz_qpr |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:20 - Feb 3 by CanadaRanger |
Political clock face = Left of centre at 9 o'clock, Right of centre at 3 o'clock, Populist at 12 o'clock and Authoritarian at 6 o'clock.
My own leanings would be about 1 o'clock... strongly populist and a bit right of centre.
If that makes me less intelligent than the communists (7 o'clock... strongly authoritarian, left of centre) so be it...
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I think the term is reactionary not populist |  | | |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 14:31 - Feb 3 with 743 views | westolian |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:20 - Feb 3 by CanadaRanger |
Political clock face = Left of centre at 9 o'clock, Right of centre at 3 o'clock, Populist at 12 o'clock and Authoritarian at 6 o'clock.
My own leanings would be about 1 o'clock... strongly populist and a bit right of centre.
If that makes me less intelligent than the communists (7 o'clock... strongly authoritarian, left of centre) so be it...
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I've got a digital watch so consequently don't know whether i'm coming or going ! |  |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 15:03 - Feb 3 with 690 views | babygravy |
Don't care if they're intelligent or not as long as they get the ball in the bloody box and someone sticks it away. |  | | |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 16:32 - Feb 3 with 596 views | sheppetonrs |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 13:27 - Feb 3 by Clive_Anderson |
Exactly. There's a recent trend for anything people don't like to be branded 'right wing'.
Right-wing politics is all about small government and personal freedom.
Blair increased the size and powers of the state massively, but apparently he was right wing too for some unknown reason.
I also have a hard time believing that the professionally unemployed who vote for Labour in their droves are more intelligent than small business owners who tend to vote Conservative. But hey the study says so, so it must be true. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Of course it's true. The stupid ones work for a living and the clever ones sponge for a living!! | | | |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 16:37 - Feb 3 with 590 views | kropotkin41 |
"Right-wing politics is all about small government and personal freedom"
Well that would be a huge generalisation. Whilst I agree with you that authoritarianism is done at least as well by the Old Left in all its guises as the Right, you ignore the fact libertarianism has been hugely important for many "leftists" over the last two centuries.
The thrust of this article was that people deemed to be less intelligent tend to be prejudiced in ways which correlate with the appeals of right wing political movements.
My own point of view is that anybody, intelligent or not, who looks at politicians of any stripe and thinks they see people who are genuinely going to help them has a mental problem.
Authoritarians of the left and the right have pretty much equally proved themselves to be murderous bast*rds; so, what can we conclude? What is required is more liberty not less; more democracy not less; less of a role or no role at all for politicians and politics as we have known it.......
Up to this point libertarians of right and left may well be in agreement. The problem; the important dispute after that is a very practical one: how should the economy be organised to ensre the survival of the liberty we value? For me the answer is democracy in every community and every workplace; an end to capitalism and bosses forever....... for the libertarians of the right? I don't know.... the freedom to let the poor starve; the freedom to live in their fortresses whilst others fight over the scraps?
I have strayed a long way from the rather simplistic point in the article, but I have done so to make a point: political and philosophical questions should be discussed with an open mind rather than dismissed with prejudice; that surely is the mark of an intelligent position. | |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 17:08 - Feb 3 with 553 views | Stanisgod |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 17:35 - Feb 3 with 516 views | peejaybee |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 14:05 - Feb 3 by TheBlob |
Was going to post the other day,why is it you can only be classed as an "Intellectual" if you're left wing?But I decided to order a pizza over the phone instead. |
Thats it Blob," Do the right thing " always. |  |
| If at first you dont succeed, pack up and f**k off home. |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 22:41 - Feb 3 with 388 views | NorthLondonR |
Have to roll about laughing with the mail proclaiming the democrats and obama being 'left-wing'' - do they actually watch the news ....oh!!!!
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 12:05 - Feb 4 with 238 views | RangersAreBack |
Left wing = Intelligent? Do me a favour... |  | | |
| This is going to really annoy some people on 12:38 - Feb 4 with 204 views | TheBlob |
What precisely is the definition of "intelligent" anyway?It seems to be a label with very few,if any,referents. | |
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| This is going to really annoy some people on 12:44 - Feb 4 with 199 views | TGRRRSSS |
Kropotin says
"My own point of view is that anybody, intelligent or not, who looks at politicians of any stripe and thinks they see people who are genuinely going to help them has a mental problem."
Thanks Kropotin in what was 2 lines on your own piece you have narrowed down the true reality of politicians, they are all careerists fundementally feathering their own nests and gaining money and power in a variety of ways, they are maybe interested in trying out some ideas and even a bit of social engineering.
What they are not is interested in is doing anything for the people who "think" they are voting them into power.
If the Parties like you and think you will happily toe the party line and that of the greater good then you will have a great chance of getting a safe seat eventually in an area your party is powerful in.
If your not then you hage next to know chance of getting into power. |  | | |
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