| As predicted 10:27 - Sep 18 with 24233 views | hitman |
Coleman back at accrington |  | | |  |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 17:47 - Sep 24 with 2473 views | Rosun |
| As predicted on 10:44 - Sep 23 by WhiteyBFC |
You state that though, as if you believe it. That the majority of our managers have struggled like hell. We're a small town with a population of 75,000. And 10,000 of them watch the town's football club. We've the two Sheffield clubs and Leeds within spitting distance, and other similar size towns/clubs closer still. Bradford, Huddersfield, Hull, Doncaster, Rotherham. I know it's the same for you with your locale. But there's my point. Look at what we've managed to achieve in our history, compared to you for example.
Your statement of us always struggling, can only be based on the last few years. Which is harsh. Those years were still in the second tier. We've spent 28 of the last 33 seasons at that or the level above. That's not struggling like hell for a club of our size. We're a small club. At that level at least.
If you're suggesting these managers have struggled, it depends what you deem as struggling. The only managers in my 26 seasons at Oakwell that I'd say struggled, would be Nigel Spackman, Steve Parkin, Paul Hart and Keith Hill. Others who had occasional struggles, are ignored because they achieved summat. Simon Davey for example took us to an FA Cup semi. David Flitcroft masterminded an escape that'll never be matched.
Too many of you on here, have this opinion that Barnsley fans in general have far too great an expectation. It's a myth. It really is. We were hoping for steady progression, to not be involved in a relegation battle, during all six of those managers I've named's tenures. All of them failed on that. But only Spackman and Davey had fans screaming for their heads. At games I mean. I don't include a few lads posting on forums as 'fanbase' feeling. Obviously.
You're right, Keith requires control of a club, top to bottom. He can get that at Rochdale. But we're Barnsley FC. You don't walk into a club like that and expect to be given that kind of freedom. Danny Wilson hasn't got it now, and he was the best manager in English football 1998. As voted by his peers. I reckon only Sir Alex had that sort of freedom at a big club. And I can't think of any current managers with that kind of power in the top couple of tiers. I think Keith's got it with Dale, and possibly Flicker at Bury. There'll be others too, in the lower divisions yes. But aye, most clubs higher up are there for a reason. They're multi million pound businesses. Owners/chairmen etc aren't going to allow some Boltonian, chewing gum as he speaks, walking in like John Wayne, the freedom to do as he pleases with such a bigger club than the one he walked out of..
Wish they had, like.
As for pyramids, and knowing our place, I do yes. We're a third tier club. It says so in black and white. We're here on merit. Our past achievements count for nowt in the present, except for the repute you can use to gain an advantage. As in, we're always going to attract better players than most clubs down here. We're always going to be getting bigger gates than most clubs in this division too. And history would suggest we're definitely not going to be down here for long.
For Dale, it's the complete opposite. This for you, is like the Premier League for us. The zenith. A dream. You're always going to be one of the minnows at this level. Christ, if you were in the second tier it'd be unreal. Nothing (other than us doing it with you) I'd like more than to see you promoted this season and Keith sparring at that level again. Even his biggest detractors would have to eat some humble pie if that happens....
Blatant, long winded reply, just for PDIDDLY's amusement. So boring I am, that he attempts interaction with me on all platforms online. Only on here does he get my attention, because his bellendery stands out like a sore thumb. On the Bury forum he blends in nicely. And twitter? Well, it's twitter. Who doesn't look a tit on there?
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Barnsley .... 75,000 people? More like 200,000.
Rochdale (as a Metropolitan Borough) is a bit weird in that it encompasses areas like Middleton that has areas that are closer in proximity to City and United than Spotland. Heywood, which has areas that overlook Giggle Lane.
I think a good example of a town with a small population and big crowds would be Burnley. [Post edited 24 Sep 2014 17:51]
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 18:03 - Sep 24 with 2443 views | 442Dale |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 17:47 - Sep 24 by Rosun |
Barnsley .... 75,000 people? More like 200,000.
Rochdale (as a Metropolitan Borough) is a bit weird in that it encompasses areas like Middleton that has areas that are closer in proximity to City and United than Spotland. Heywood, which has areas that overlook Giggle Lane.
I think a good example of a town with a small population and big crowds would be Burnley. [Post edited 24 Sep 2014 17:51]
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Though Burnley do traditionally pull in a lot of fans from outside the town. Places like Bacup, Todmorden are big Burnley areas, even somewhere as far afield as Skipton has pockets of their support. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 18:42 - Sep 24 with 2378 views | Frog |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 17:47 - Sep 24 by Rosun |
Barnsley .... 75,000 people? More like 200,000.
Rochdale (as a Metropolitan Borough) is a bit weird in that it encompasses areas like Middleton that has areas that are closer in proximity to City and United than Spotland. Heywood, which has areas that overlook Giggle Lane.
I think a good example of a town with a small population and big crowds would be Burnley. [Post edited 24 Sep 2014 17:51]
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People of Middleton see themselves, and rightly so, as Mancunians, hence the vast majority supporting city or united. I'm one of the few exceptions. |  | | |
| As predicted on 01:52 - Sep 25 with 2205 views | WhiteyBFC |
| As predicted on 17:35 - Sep 24 by nordenblue |
Not assuming things Whitey its how many people from the outside view your club and the deluded ideas many of you lot have, there seems to be a distinct theme though tbf once you pass Brighouse they all go a bit billy big bollox and have ideas well above their station so you're in great company in that.Anyway you should walk all over us in a couple of weeks though being an ex prem club and all that, no pressure or anything
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Deluded ideas? Like what?
Look, I'm a bigger fan of King Keith than most of you lot imagine. But if you think we were deluded hoping to score/win now and again, then aye, deluded bunch we are. As for us being ex Prem, yes, we are. Garnered a points total that would have seen us safe in most of the seasons since. But are we chuff a Prem club. And not one reds fan expects that to happen again for us. But I was there when it did happen, when Danny spent nowt and we Brazil'd our way up there. Unbelievable stuff. We beat Rochdale that season n all...
Sithi ont 4th of October. |  | | |
| As predicted on 07:24 - Sep 25 with 2150 views | downunder |
| As predicted on 17:35 - Sep 24 by nordenblue |
Not assuming things Whitey its how many people from the outside view your club and the deluded ideas many of you lot have, there seems to be a distinct theme though tbf once you pass Brighouse they all go a bit billy big bollox and have ideas well above their station so you're in great company in that.Anyway you should walk all over us in a couple of weeks though being an ex prem club and all that, no pressure or anything
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Have they moved Brighouse next to the White House on top of T'Pennines?( Or Heywood for that matter.) |  | | |
| As predicted on 09:18 - Sep 25 with 2115 views | nordenblue |
| As predicted on 01:52 - Sep 25 by WhiteyBFC |
Deluded ideas? Like what?
Look, I'm a bigger fan of King Keith than most of you lot imagine. But if you think we were deluded hoping to score/win now and again, then aye, deluded bunch we are. As for us being ex Prem, yes, we are. Garnered a points total that would have seen us safe in most of the seasons since. But are we chuff a Prem club. And not one reds fan expects that to happen again for us. But I was there when it did happen, when Danny spent nowt and we Brazil'd our way up there. Unbelievable stuff. We beat Rochdale that season n all...
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Deluded like more chance of juggling fog than getting Barnsley to compete at a decent level in the championship perhaps,as currently being proved |  | | |
| As predicted on 09:38 - Sep 25 with 2096 views | aleanddale |
Are Whitey and Norden Blue going for a drink together on the 4th do you recon!!!!! | | | |
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| As predicted on 11:42 - Sep 25 with 2047 views | nordenblue |
| As predicted on 09:38 - Sep 25 by aleanddale |
Are Whitey and Norden Blue going for a drink together on the 4th do you recon!!!!! |
I've a feeling the answer could be a big fat no, tbf to Whitey hes a decent poster on here, he can be forgiven for writing paragraphs and verses of boring tripe as he's a yorkie and it comes natural to him. | | | |
| As predicted on 15:17 - Sep 25 with 1949 views | Nafelad |
I'm not interested in Barnsley at all.
Would it be possible to have an alternative Dale messageboard set up for those who wish to talk/hear about Barnsley? |  |
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| As predicted on 15:27 - Sep 25 with 1929 views | aleanddale |
| As predicted on 15:17 - Sep 25 by Nafelad |
I'm not interested in Barnsley at all.
Would it be possible to have an alternative Dale messageboard set up for those who wish to talk/hear about Barnsley? |
No Interest?
Not even when they are next up at Spotland in 9 days time? | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:35 - Sep 25 with 1914 views | SalwaDale |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 18:03 - Sep 24 by 442Dale |
Though Burnley do traditionally pull in a lot of fans from outside the town. Places like Bacup, Todmorden are big Burnley areas, even somewhere as far afield as Skipton has pockets of their support. |
More than pockets of Bunley support in Skipton. There's loads of them. |  |
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| As predicted on 15:42 - Sep 25 with 1898 views | Nafelad |
I'm 'not interested' in Barnsley - the club, history, how their fans feel about Hill, Flitcroft, etc. I am interested in any club in our division, or who we are drawn against in a competition, mainly during the days approaching a match. | |
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| As predicted on 18:08 - Sep 25 with 1817 views | 442Dale |
With all the connections between the two clubs I find Barnsley fascinating, but can understand why others don't care at all. But they're really rather ace over there because many will NEVER, EVER forget Keith Hill.
However much like those who say they don't care about Dale over on the Barnsley board, the option is not to read posts about them. In the meantime they're only an alternative until we get stuck into the subject of Nottingham County again.
Because, Mr Trew, I really do hate them. Lots. | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:10 - Sep 25 with 1718 views | WhiteyBFC |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 17:47 - Sep 24 by Rosun |
Barnsley .... 75,000 people? More like 200,000.
Rochdale (as a Metropolitan Borough) is a bit weird in that it encompasses areas like Middleton that has areas that are closer in proximity to City and United than Spotland. Heywood, which has areas that overlook Giggle Lane.
I think a good example of a town with a small population and big crowds would be Burnley. [Post edited 24 Sep 2014 17:51]
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Barnsley town has a population of 75,000. The borough thing is complete nonsense. It includes places that are closer to Rotherham, Doncaster and Sheffield, bizarrely. All are Wednesday strongholds.
But even taking the 200,000 population, it doesn't alter what I was saying, that we're a small, market town, with the cities of Leeds, Wakefield, Nottingham and Sheffield next door. For us to achieve what we have, well it hasn't been a struggle, as was suggested. | | | |
| As predicted on 20:18 - Sep 25 with 1707 views | WhiteyBFC |
A rather one sided, often false and overwhelmingly stupid opinion too. | | | |
| As predicted on 20:24 - Sep 25 with 1696 views | boromat |
And here's me clicking on a thread expecting to read about Coleman joining Accrington. | |
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| As predicted on 20:33 - Sep 25 with 1681 views | WhiteyBFC |
| As predicted on 09:18 - Sep 25 by nordenblue |
Deluded like more chance of juggling fog than getting Barnsley to compete at a decent level in the championship perhaps,as currently being proved |
Maybe you're right, maybe we won't ever compete again, despite 80 years of evidence. But at least we have competed though. And in the top flight. Won things etc. Your glory era is the one you're currently experiencing. Think about that. A couple of League Two promotions, and a 9th placed League One finish. This season is as low as I've known us. Not being promoted will be a failure for us. It'll be a success if you stop up, and Keith will be lauded (and lauding himself).
Think I've finally accepted it. Yes, our expectations were too grand. For Keith. And our expectations are too grand for the Dale supporters to understand. Ah well.
Of course. It all makes sense now. it's easier to accept not competing, if you never have. More I think about it, more I realise Keith's at the perfect club. He can't fail can he?
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| As predicted on 20:51 - Sep 25 with 1644 views | TVOS1907 |
| As predicted on 01:52 - Sep 25 by WhiteyBFC |
Deluded ideas? Like what?
Look, I'm a bigger fan of King Keith than most of you lot imagine. But if you think we were deluded hoping to score/win now and again, then aye, deluded bunch we are. As for us being ex Prem, yes, we are. Garnered a points total that would have seen us safe in most of the seasons since. But are we chuff a Prem club. And not one reds fan expects that to happen again for us. But I was there when it did happen, when Danny spent nowt and we Brazil'd our way up there. Unbelievable stuff. We beat Rochdale that season n all...
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They also lost to Rochdale that season, as well, tbf. |  |
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| As predicted on 20:53 - Sep 25 with 1641 views | judd |
| As predicted on 20:33 - Sep 25 by WhiteyBFC |
Maybe you're right, maybe we won't ever compete again, despite 80 years of evidence. But at least we have competed though. And in the top flight. Won things etc. Your glory era is the one you're currently experiencing. Think about that. A couple of League Two promotions, and a 9th placed League One finish. This season is as low as I've known us. Not being promoted will be a failure for us. It'll be a success if you stop up, and Keith will be lauded (and lauding himself).
Think I've finally accepted it. Yes, our expectations were too grand. For Keith. And our expectations are too grand for the Dale supporters to understand. Ah well.
Of course. It all makes sense now. it's easier to accept not competing, if you never have. More I think about it, more I realise Keith's at the perfect club. He can't fail can he?
9 more sleeps. |
You forgot our CUP FINAL APPEARANCE.
Anyway, you're wasting your time trying to get a rise round here. Burnley fans would be better off on the Blackburn site. |  |
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| As predicted on 20:56 - Sep 25 with 1637 views | 442Dale |
| As predicted on 20:24 - Sep 25 by boromat |
And here's me clicking on a thread expecting to read about Coleman joining Accrington. |
Yeah but the best threads always go off at a tangent. This isn't one of the best threads because it hasn't reached TalkingSutty v BigDaveMycock levels of wonderment yet.
That and the fact a Whitey post takes longer to digest than Lord of the Rings.... All three films in one go. And then the book. | |
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| As predicted on 21:02 - Sep 25 with 1622 views | 442Dale |
| As predicted on 20:53 - Sep 25 by judd |
You forgot our CUP FINAL APPEARANCE.
Anyway, you're wasting your time trying to get a rise round here. Burnley fans would be better off on the Blackburn site. |
I recall when we played Burnley in the League Cup in 1988 (3-3 at Spotland, Sutton with pink tape on his boots, an ironing board wielding George Oghani running riot) that the programme had us as playing Barnsley.
I'd like to say its improved since. [Post edited 25 Sep 2014 21:07]
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| As predicted on 21:18 - Sep 25 with 1596 views | nordenblue |
| As predicted on 20:33 - Sep 25 by WhiteyBFC |
Maybe you're right, maybe we won't ever compete again, despite 80 years of evidence. But at least we have competed though. And in the top flight. Won things etc. Your glory era is the one you're currently experiencing. Think about that. A couple of League Two promotions, and a 9th placed League One finish. This season is as low as I've known us. Not being promoted will be a failure for us. It'll be a success if you stop up, and Keith will be lauded (and lauding himself).
Think I've finally accepted it. Yes, our expectations were too grand. For Keith. And our expectations are too grand for the Dale supporters to understand. Ah well.
Of course. It all makes sense now. it's easier to accept not competing, if you never have. More I think about it, more I realise Keith's at the perfect club. He can't fail can he?
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Wow your clubs just so awesome we're blessed such a supporter of the massive world famous Barnsley is even posting on here.One thing i would suggest is asking Hilly where he would rather be, im sure he'd tell you to shove your bullshit history up your arse and work for somewhere hes appreciated and understand what a good manager he actually is.
I suspect a bit of nerves creeping in Whitey as the game gets nearer, nothing to lose being such a massive club against a shitty little team surely not? [Post edited 25 Sep 2014 21:29]
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| As predicted on 21:44 - Sep 25 with 1572 views | TVOS1907 |
| As predicted on 21:02 - Sep 25 by 442Dale |
I recall when we played Burnley in the League Cup in 1988 (3-3 at Spotland, Sutton with pink tape on his boots, an ironing board wielding George Oghani running riot) that the programme had us as playing Barnsley.
I'd like to say its improved since. [Post edited 25 Sep 2014 21:07]
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