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Yes that's what I mean a flashpoint incident could have soldiers shooting at each other in no time to kick the whole thing off.
Article two above.
Lol yeah Chevron,Monsanto etc and all the big corporations are now going to start piling in and absolutely rape the place of its natural resources. The IMF were already in Kiev last week flying the gold bullion reserves to New York. The IMF and EU will finish the rest if the country off.
Poor people of ukraine their future is well and truly fecked.
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PROUD RECIPIENT OF THE THIRD PLANET SWANS LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
"Per ardua ad astra"
The Road to World War on 21:59 - Mar 18 by Lord_Bony
Article one above.
Yes that's what I mean a flashpoint incident could have soldiers shooting at each other in no time to kick the whole thing off.
Article two above.
Lol yeah Chevron,Monsanto etc and all the big corporations are now going to start piling in and absolutely rape the place of its natural resources. The IMF were already in Kiev last week flying the gold bullion reserves to New York. The IMF and EU will finish the rest if the country off.
Poor people of ukraine their future is well and truly fecked.
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And that's why Russia released their troops from the Crimea barracks .
It f@@king stinks to high earth of a underhand Western led Coup .
Ukrainian First Deputy PM, Acting defence minister to fly to Crimea
19 Mar 2014 - 09:21 KIEV, March 19 (Reuters) — Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk issued an order on Wednesday for the first deputy prime minister and the acting defence minister to fly to Crimea to "resolve the situation" in the region now controlled by Russian forces. Ostap Semerak, a senior minister, told a meeting of the cabinet that Vitaly Yarema and Ihor Tenyukh would be charged with "ensuring the conflict does not become military in nature". He said the two men had just left the meeting. (Reporting by Pavel Polityuk; Writing by Ron Popeski) Keywords: UKRAINE CRISIS/FLIGHT
Ukrainian First Deputy PM, Acting defence minister to fly to Crimea
19 Mar 2014 - 09:21 KIEV, March 19 (Reuters) — Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk issued an order on Wednesday for the first deputy prime minister and the acting defence minister to fly to Crimea to "resolve the situation" in the region now controlled by Russian forces. Ostap Semerak, a senior minister, told a meeting of the cabinet that Vitaly Yarema and Ihor Tenyukh would be charged with "ensuring the conflict does not become military in nature". He said the two men had just left the meeting. (Reporting by Pavel Polityuk; Writing by Ron Popeski) Keywords: UKRAINE CRISIS/FLIGHT
Crimean PM says will not allow Ukrainian ministers into region-Ifax
19 Mar 2014 - 09:47 MOSCOW, March 19 (Reuters) — Crimean Prime Minister Sergei Aksyonov said on Wednesday that senior Ukrainian officials dispatched to the region by the government in Kiev amid tension between military forces would not be allowed to enter, Russian news agency Interfax reported. "They are not wanted in Crimea. Nobody will let them into Crimea, they will be sent back," Interfax quoted Aksyonov as saying after Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk ordered and the acting defence minister and first deputy prime minister to fly to Crimea to "resolve the situation" in the region now controlled by Russian forces. [ID:nL3N0MG2K9] (Reporting by Maria Kiselyova) ((maria.kiselyova@thomsonreuters.com)(+7 495 775 1242)(Reuters Messaging: maria.kiselyova.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net)) Keywords: UKRAINE CRISIS/CRIMEA MINISTERS
Depends on whether you consider soldiers with loyalties to different countries shooting at each other a war? But Ukrainian officials believe it's going towards military conflict. They know more than me.
The Road to World War on 11:48 - Mar 19 by Catullus
Depends on whether you consider soldiers with loyalties to different countries shooting at each other a war? But Ukrainian officials believe it's going towards military conflict. They know more than me.
You seem generally unwilling to take a clear stance on anything, preferring instead to hide behind weasel words.
Perhaps you would get back to me when you have some opinions you are willing to back up with clear, positive language.
You seem generally unwilling to take a clear stance on anything, preferring instead to hide behind weasel words.
Perhaps you would get back to me when you have some opinions you are willing to back up with clear, positive language.
I tried using clear positive language with you, it was a waste of time. You seem to deliberatley misconstrue the words or post childish things like can I prove the queen is not a lizard creature!! Seeing as you insist in behaving in such a childish way I see no point in bothering. You can take that as you winning if you want, when it comes to being childish you have me beaten hands down every time.
The Road to World War on 11:56 - Mar 19 by Catullus
I tried using clear positive language with you, it was a waste of time. You seem to deliberatley misconstrue the words or post childish things like can I prove the queen is not a lizard creature!! Seeing as you insist in behaving in such a childish way I see no point in bothering. You can take that as you winning if you want, when it comes to being childish you have me beaten hands down every time.
Since you seem genuinely confused and fixated on my lizard queen remark I will spell it out for you.
You asked me if I had any proof that your conspiracy theory of "The EU and the U.S working to undermine Russia by destabilising former Soviet satellite states " was false.
I admitted I did not have such proof, and then invited you to provide proof that the queen isn't a lizard.
The point here is that it is what is known as a logical fallacy to assume because there is no proof that either statement is false, it then becomes true.
For the sake of everybody's sanity, according to tradition the onus is on somebody making wild claims to offer supporting facts to make their case, not to insist others should falsify them.
Understand?
Now if your objective is to waste my time you are succeeding beyond what I consider reasonable on this nonsense.
Since you seem genuinely confused and fixated on my lizard queen remark I will spell it out for you.
You asked me if I had any proof that your conspiracy theory of "The EU and the U.S working to undermine Russia by destabilising former Soviet satellite states " was false.
I admitted I did not have such proof, and then invited you to provide proof that the queen isn't a lizard.
The point here is that it is what is known as a logical fallacy to assume because there is no proof that either statement is false, it then becomes true.
For the sake of everybody's sanity, according to tradition the onus is on somebody making wild claims to offer supporting facts to make their case, not to insist others should falsify them.
Understand?
Now if your objective is to waste my time you are succeeding beyond what I consider reasonable on this nonsense.
Well I just read through the whole thread. Maybe I am blind but I cannot see where I asked you to prove anything. So now you are just making things up to support your argument.
I'm off to meet the Queen now, we have to feast on the blood of recently killed babies. we need to keep our strength up for when the invasion by the giant space frogs starts.
Or to put it another way, do you believe that developing countries say in the former eastern block see it as in their vital national interests to sign trade agreements with the EU and gain access to multilateral organisations offering financing for various development purposes and general lending?
Of course they bloody well do. You should know that if you have spent any time in Romania or wherever it was you said you had traveled.
Control of the Ukraine for resources and it's geographic strategic importance being right next to Russia . It would also kick the Russians out of the naval ports of the black sea and give the west total domination over the Russians as a superpower.
The big corptoations would have field day over the rich resources and arable farm land there.
The country would also be paying back money and interst to the IMF forever and a day.
That's just for starters.
PROUD RECIPIENT OF THE THIRD PLANET SWANS LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
"Per ardua ad astra"
The Road to World War on 12:32 - Mar 19 by Lord_Bony
Control of the Ukraine for resources and it's geographic strategic importance being right next to Russia . It would also kick the Russians out of the naval ports of the black sea and give the west total domination over the Russians as a superpower.
The big corptoations would have field day over the rich resources and arable farm land there.
The country would also be paying back money and interst to the IMF forever and a day.
That's just for starters.
But Russia has already annexed the black sea ports, which are indeed in their strategic national interests.
The rest of you points just boil down to actually a rather weak form of historicism, plus a smidgen of goldbug theology.
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