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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. 19:37 - Apr 19 with 1205 viewsLohengrin

Your personal favourite politico is coming to speak at The Liberty on the 30th.

Let's go see him.

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 11:48 - Apr 20 with 488 viewsYrAlarch

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 11:44 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy

Labour hasn't been a socialist party since 1984.


Quite right. Another power vehicle for the millionaire ex Oxbridge Public Schoolboys.
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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 11:55 - Apr 20 with 469 viewsLohengrin

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 11:43 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy

I'm warming to the idea of going to this gig. I haven't had a good old heckle for years.


You'd be set about by love-struck members of The WI.

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 11:57 - Apr 20 with 463 viewsLohengrin

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 11:44 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy

Labour hasn't been a socialist party since 1984.


It's never really been a Socialist Party, as such. It's had Socialists within its ranks but its always been a far broader church than that.

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:06 - Apr 20 with 458 viewsexiledclaseboy

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 11:57 - Apr 20 by Lohengrin

It's never really been a Socialist Party, as such. It's had Socialists within its ranks but its always been a far broader church than that.


Yes I wouldn't argue with that. Although there's no denying that its main principles up until the mid-80s were firmly based on the tenets of socialism.

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:18 - Apr 20 with 454 viewsJohnw102

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 11:44 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy

Labour hasn't been a socialist party since 1984.


And hasn't been a Labour party since 1994

Never knew getting old would happen so quick!

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:24 - Apr 20 with 451 viewsLohengrin

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:06 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy

Yes I wouldn't argue with that. Although there's no denying that its main principles up until the mid-80s were firmly based on the tenets of socialism.


The State as panacea?

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:30 - Apr 20 with 448 viewsexiledclaseboy

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:24 - Apr 20 by Lohengrin

The State as panacea?


No. Progressive taxation, wealth redistribution, social fairness.

Actually all parties are basically socialist as they all support wealth redistribution to some extent or another.

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:39 - Apr 20 with 445 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 10:26 - Apr 20 by Lohengrin

You make him sound remarkably like Tony Benn.


What a f@@king dreadful comparison .

Can't beleive Farage is too Right wing for even you

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 13:02 - Apr 20 with 438 viewsLohengrin

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:39 - Apr 20 by oh_tommy_tommy

What a f@@king dreadful comparison .

Can't beleive Farage is too Right wing for even you


I've never been a "right-winger." That phrase just conjures up ideas of monetarism and unfettered capitalism for me. The Market as panacea as opposed to the lefts's State. Both soulless concepts, shackles of a different hue.

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 13:04 - Apr 20 with 435 viewsLohengrin

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 12:30 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy

No. Progressive taxation, wealth redistribution, social fairness.

Actually all parties are basically socialist as they all support wealth redistribution to some extent or another.


You're imputing what you'd like Socialism to have meant, not what it was in practice. A sin we're all guilty of when it comes to our own pet theories, I suppose.
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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 14:27 - Apr 20 with 416 viewsYrAlarch

The UK is governed by politicians, and supported by a Civil Service, dominated by Oxbridge, Eton and Harrow educated sons of wealthy families who don't give a damn about , and don't have any empathy with, the working and middle classes. We are being continually shafted. As an example, look at the patronising advertisements that followed the last budget alluding to the beer and bingo loving 'ordinary' folk.
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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 14:43 - Apr 20 with 410 viewsepaul

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 14:27 - Apr 20 by YrAlarch

The UK is governed by politicians, and supported by a Civil Service, dominated by Oxbridge, Eton and Harrow educated sons of wealthy families who don't give a damn about , and don't have any empathy with, the working and middle classes. We are being continually shafted. As an example, look at the patronising advertisements that followed the last budget alluding to the beer and bingo loving 'ordinary' folk.


Your wrong they are all in it together with us mun

On a serious note spot on, they don't care about us, big banks and multi nationals are their pals

As for Farage cn*tpipe of the highest order, although he has said he'd take on zero hours contracts which are a disgrace I don't believe him

The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day The b*stards are coming back though

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 14:45 - Apr 20 with 409 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Is it free to attend?

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 14:48 - Apr 20 with 408 viewsJackfath

Nigel Farage
You're like a human Tawe barrage
Holding back the water
I wonder do you have a daughter?

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 18:04 - Apr 20 with 379 viewsCottsy

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 09:37 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy

I may actually get some leaflets done with the definition of the word "libertarian" printed on them and hand them out on the door to those going to see the Dear Leader speak. In my experience most UKIP supporters haven't got a clue what the word means. And UKIP isn't so much a political movement anyway, it's more of a cult of personality.

I've just brought the mental image of Farage crumpled up in the wreckage of that light aircraft crash a few years ago back to my mind. Satisfying. Happy Easter.


Libertarians: Anarchists who want the police to protect them from poor people.

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 02:11 - Apr 21 with 348 viewsLohengrin

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 14:27 - Apr 20 by YrAlarch

The UK is governed by politicians, and supported by a Civil Service, dominated by Oxbridge, Eton and Harrow educated sons of wealthy families who don't give a damn about , and don't have any empathy with, the working and middle classes. We are being continually shafted. As an example, look at the patronising advertisements that followed the last budget alluding to the beer and bingo loving 'ordinary' folk.


That resounds of second-hand, recycled, bigoted nonsense. No personal offence intended, fella' but that just smacks of the knee-jerk, lefty baseless hatred of anybody who's got a few bob more than you and it makes me cringe, honestly it does.

You're a free born man, make your own way in the world. Don't worry about what somebody may or may not have got. Take care of yourself and yours.

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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 08:34 - Apr 21 with 323 viewsYrAlarch

I don't take offence but I think you are missing the point. It's not about WEALTH per se it's about POWER and the ability to influence the lives of everyone in this country. I highlighted the attitude towards their perception of the working man as an example. We are constantly having their (ie the governing classes) values imposed upon us. Putting it simply I just want a fairer distribution of political power.
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FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 10:57 - Apr 21 with 308 viewsLohengrin

FAO Clase: Let's go see Farage. on 08:34 - Apr 21 by YrAlarch

I don't take offence but I think you are missing the point. It's not about WEALTH per se it's about POWER and the ability to influence the lives of everyone in this country. I highlighted the attitude towards their perception of the working man as an example. We are constantly having their (ie the governing classes) values imposed upon us. Putting it simply I just want a fairer distribution of political power.


Well, mate, it's hardly the first time I've come home late, three sheets to the wind, and got hold of the wrong end of the stick.

A fairer distribution of political power, you say? I'd agree; most of us outside of the left would be keen advocates of steps in that direction. First things first we need to have a clearer understanding and sound definitions of exactly what "power" is. Where it resides, how it's wielded and the difficult part: how to appropriate it?

I've got no ready-made, simple solutions for you. Who has? What I have got are suggestions for reading matter for you if you have the time and inclination to develop your ideas. Off the top of my head...

Hilaire Belloc - An Essay on the Restoration of Property.
- The Servile State.

G K Chesterton - The Outline of Sanity
- Utopia of Usurers

Ernst Schumacher - Small is Beautiful

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