| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? 14:10 - Jun 20 with 6986 views | Darran |
I just don't wear it and it's sitting in the drawer.
Give me a grand. |  |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 23:14 - Jun 23 with 1234 views | Darran |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 23:11 - Jun 23 by ItchySphincter |
Good answer. I'd rather hoped you'd drive a Merc or suchlike but I knew in my heart you'd say it was something average. I was going to suggest a Fiat Panda for you. |
He wouldn't get in a Fiat Panda.  | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 23:16 - Jun 23 with 1233 views | ItchySphincter |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 18:26 - Aug 23 with 1160 views | Starsky |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 20:57 - Jun 20 by exiledclaseboy |
Why anyone would pay more than £40 for something that exists purely to tell them what time it is is something that's completely beyond my comprehension. |
Yep.
A bit like personal number plates really. |  |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 22:38 - Aug 23 with 1099 views | muzzfuzz |
This is a football only discussion board you fecking dim wit it's not eBay .
Do me a favour - nobody is going to buy it .7 |  | | |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 22:43 - Aug 23 with 1094 views | Darran |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 22:38 - Aug 23 by muzzfuzz |
This is a football only discussion board you fecking dim wit it's not eBay .
Do me a favour - nobody is going to buy it .7 |
Perhaps that's why it's on the non football board then you thick tw*t. | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:12 - Aug 24 with 1043 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I'm selling a fairly rare snake if anyones interested. PM me for details. |  |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:19 - Aug 24 with 1045 views | Watchman |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 17:46 - Jun 20 by lifelong |
It's slow. |
so it's not digital then? |  |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:29 - Aug 24 with 1037 views | Uxbridge |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 17:46 - Jun 20 by lifelong |
It's slow. |
Bit like it's owner then ...
I'd offer 20 quid but I'm a bit worried I'd get a knock on the door. |  |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 11:49 - Aug 25 with 947 views | Tokijo |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 17:35 - Jun 20 by Darran |
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Darran, Nice watch.
How old is the watch is and when last serviced? | | | |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 11:49 - Aug 25 with 946 views | Darran |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 11:49 - Aug 25 by Tokijo |
Darran, Nice watch.
How old is the watch is and when last serviced? |
12 years old and it was serviced about five years ago. | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 17:32 - Oct 23 with 814 views | Starsky |
Have you sold it yet?
I'm bored.... | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 18:59 - Oct 23 with 766 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:12 - Aug 24 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I'm selling a fairly rare snake if anyones interested. PM me for details. |
I absolutely hate snakes and can never understand why anyone keeps one.
There was a tosser in Piccadilly Circus not long ago with one round his neck. I complained to the police :-) | | | |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 19:04 - Oct 23 with 756 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 18:59 - Oct 23 by londonlisa2001 |
I absolutely hate snakes and can never understand why anyone keeps one.
There was a tosser in Piccadilly Circus not long ago with one round his neck. I complained to the police :-) |
He does sound like a tosser. Whenever I went to collect mine from people at train stations I'd go somewhere private to check them over as I'm aware many are afraid / dislike them. | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 19:09 - Oct 23 with 751 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 19:04 - Oct 23 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
He does sound like a tosser. Whenever I went to collect mine from people at train stations I'd go somewhere private to check them over as I'm aware many are afraid / dislike them. |
It was a blooming enormous thing as well.
I know it was probably / almost certainly harmless, but when you've a bit of a phobia about them, if you turn the corner in the middle of London to be confronted by one it's not great. these things are always a bit irrational, but I don't think I'm on my own !! I'm not like it about spiders though when again lots are.
It's become a bit of a thing. God knows why - you don't se people standing around with huge spiders.
You sound like you are much more thoughtful about it. | | | |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 19:15 - Oct 23 with 737 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 19:09 - Oct 23 by londonlisa2001 |
It was a blooming enormous thing as well.
I know it was probably / almost certainly harmless, but when you've a bit of a phobia about them, if you turn the corner in the middle of London to be confronted by one it's not great. these things are always a bit irrational, but I don't think I'm on my own !! I'm not like it about spiders though when again lots are.
It's become a bit of a thing. God knows why - you don't se people standing around with huge spiders.
You sound like you are much more thoughtful about it. |
They're quickly becomming a 'show off to your mates' type pet which isn't good.
I wouldn't even describe most species as pets. Most require such specialised enclosures and care that they're more of a hobby / interest than a pet.
You'll rarely hear of one reaching an excellent age in captivity which is a shame.
When I'm Prime Minister I'll introduce my 'tagging' legislation regarding keeping animals as I'm confident it would ensure only people who really want and really care about their wanted animals are able to purchase and keep them.
It's gotten out of hand now. Too many people who want a little extra money are trying to breed cats, dogs, horses and what not. It's very annoying to see. | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 20:16 - Oct 23 with 691 views | Aquinas |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 20:57 - Jun 20 by exiledclaseboy |
Why anyone would pay more than £40 for something that exists purely to tell them what time it is is something that's completely beyond my comprehension. |
Fair point.
But most people would rather pay £1000 once for a watch that looks nice and won't cause them any harm than pay £1000's over a lifetime for cigarettes that slowly kill you.
This is coming from a smoker also. |  | | |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 20:19 - Oct 23 with 682 views | Starsky |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 18:26 - Aug 23 by Starsky |
Yep.
A bit like personal number plates really. |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 22:42 - Oct 23 with 631 views | jack_lord |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 20:16 - Oct 23 by Aquinas |
Fair point.
But most people would rather pay £1000 once for a watch that looks nice and won't cause them any harm than pay £1000's over a lifetime for cigarettes that slowly kill you.
This is coming from a smoker also. |
The thing is, that watch is approximately 4 grand brand new. |  |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:17 - Oct 24 with 608 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 19:15 - Oct 23 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They're quickly becomming a 'show off to your mates' type pet which isn't good.
I wouldn't even describe most species as pets. Most require such specialised enclosures and care that they're more of a hobby / interest than a pet.
You'll rarely hear of one reaching an excellent age in captivity which is a shame.
When I'm Prime Minister I'll introduce my 'tagging' legislation regarding keeping animals as I'm confident it would ensure only people who really want and really care about their wanted animals are able to purchase and keep them.
It's gotten out of hand now. Too many people who want a little extra money are trying to breed cats, dogs, horses and what not. It's very annoying to see. |
Dwight - serious question because I'm interested.
Why is it OK (since I know you're interested in conservation) to keep a wild animal (or reptile in your case) in captivity?
I've been lucky enough to see tigers in the wild (n Northern India) and having seen it, I completely understand the need for keeping tigers in zoos / safari parks as well, since to be frank, it's the only way in which we will guarantee to save them from extinction (given the complete lack of protection from poaching and conservation expertise that they get in India although it is improving a bit). Similarly with other animals on the verge of extinction - Black Rhinos etc where we can at least keep them from extinction in captivity.
But, assuming that your reptiles are not on the verge of extinction, is it reasonable treatment of them to keep them in an alien environment like an enclosure / tank or whatever over here? I seriously don't ask as an implicit criticism, I don't know enough about it and am genuinely interested. | | | |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:35 - Oct 24 with 603 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:17 - Oct 24 by londonlisa2001 |
Dwight - serious question because I'm interested.
Why is it OK (since I know you're interested in conservation) to keep a wild animal (or reptile in your case) in captivity?
I've been lucky enough to see tigers in the wild (n Northern India) and having seen it, I completely understand the need for keeping tigers in zoos / safari parks as well, since to be frank, it's the only way in which we will guarantee to save them from extinction (given the complete lack of protection from poaching and conservation expertise that they get in India although it is improving a bit). Similarly with other animals on the verge of extinction - Black Rhinos etc where we can at least keep them from extinction in captivity.
But, assuming that your reptiles are not on the verge of extinction, is it reasonable treatment of them to keep them in an alien environment like an enclosure / tank or whatever over here? I seriously don't ask as an implicit criticism, I don't know enough about it and am genuinely interested. |
I keep them because they're my favourite animals and I am able to keep them and provide them with husbandry that ensures they have absolutely no idea they are captive. As far as they're concerned they're living in their natural environment. They eat well, defecate well and breed well, if they were stressed in any way they wouldn't do the above.
There's little to no stereotypical or unnatural behaviour with captive snakes if kept properly. Of course I wholly disagree with keeping numerous reptiles in captivity. 'Giant' snakes for example need giant enclosures and in most cases they do not get these. The snakes I have naturally spend all their lives in rodent burrows and only ever leave when they go looking for a new rodent burrow to prey upon and hide in. It's not difficult to replicate those environments in captivity, but Burmese pythons, green iguanas and other similar animals I think is selfish and inappropriate.
Tigers for example are nearly always stressed in captivity, even in multi million pound enclosures in world renowned zoos such as Chester.
All they do is pace around the edge of the enclosure the entire day and it's sad to see them suffer but as you said, without it they'd soon be extinct.
I'm of the opinion that some animals are just meant to go extinct and we should focus our efforts on ones that can be saved.
The Giant Panda nonsense is a waste of time in my opinion. It's sad but they're not evolved enough to cope in the current world. No amount of money or help will save them.
Dogs, rabbits, goldfish and every other common pet animal all were once wild animals that somebody decided to keep as a pet or domesticate for whatever reason. I don't see the problem in starting the process of domesticating new animals for the same reasons as the above. Dogs for example have been line bred to look certain ways and most breeds suffer in various ways yet there's very little questioning regarding that.
Most rhino's will be gone before my children are old enough to see them, as will most Giant Pandas, most species of rare cat and so much more. It's sad but inevitable. I'm about as negative and blunt in my conservation beliefs as I am with my opinions on Swansea CIty. | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:55 - Oct 24 with 593 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:35 - Oct 24 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I keep them because they're my favourite animals and I am able to keep them and provide them with husbandry that ensures they have absolutely no idea they are captive. As far as they're concerned they're living in their natural environment. They eat well, defecate well and breed well, if they were stressed in any way they wouldn't do the above.
There's little to no stereotypical or unnatural behaviour with captive snakes if kept properly. Of course I wholly disagree with keeping numerous reptiles in captivity. 'Giant' snakes for example need giant enclosures and in most cases they do not get these. The snakes I have naturally spend all their lives in rodent burrows and only ever leave when they go looking for a new rodent burrow to prey upon and hide in. It's not difficult to replicate those environments in captivity, but Burmese pythons, green iguanas and other similar animals I think is selfish and inappropriate.
Tigers for example are nearly always stressed in captivity, even in multi million pound enclosures in world renowned zoos such as Chester.
All they do is pace around the edge of the enclosure the entire day and it's sad to see them suffer but as you said, without it they'd soon be extinct.
I'm of the opinion that some animals are just meant to go extinct and we should focus our efforts on ones that can be saved.
The Giant Panda nonsense is a waste of time in my opinion. It's sad but they're not evolved enough to cope in the current world. No amount of money or help will save them.
Dogs, rabbits, goldfish and every other common pet animal all were once wild animals that somebody decided to keep as a pet or domesticate for whatever reason. I don't see the problem in starting the process of domesticating new animals for the same reasons as the above. Dogs for example have been line bred to look certain ways and most breeds suffer in various ways yet there's very little questioning regarding that.
Most rhino's will be gone before my children are old enough to see them, as will most Giant Pandas, most species of rare cat and so much more. It's sad but inevitable. I'm about as negative and blunt in my conservation beliefs as I am with my opinions on Swansea CIty. |
thanks for the explanation.
Yes - I find it difficult re the stressing of tigers. I haven't yet been to the new tiger environment in London Zoo, but as I say, having seen the way in which they are treated by so called 'experts' in India, they really would die out without those sorts of places. I've also visited East Africa on three occasions now, including the lesser known places like Selous and Ruaha and the level of knowledge there is so impressive amongst the wardens / guides and so on - it's such a shame the Indians can't learn from them.
Difficulty in Africa is the amount of poaching - the number of Chinese that want to go shooting etc is very very sad, and as they are paying for a lot of infrastructure there (roads and so on) the governments of Tanzania and neighbouring countries are allowing them to do it (albeit in certain areas) to raise money. It's also such a shame that the ivory trade shows no sign of abating, and the desire on the East for 'remedies' often involving rare animals.
I understand re the extinction issue, but there is surely a difference between becoming naturally extinct and being wiped out by human 'sport' (I use the word as loosely as possible). | | | |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 01:06 - Oct 24 with 583 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 00:55 - Oct 24 by londonlisa2001 |
thanks for the explanation.
Yes - I find it difficult re the stressing of tigers. I haven't yet been to the new tiger environment in London Zoo, but as I say, having seen the way in which they are treated by so called 'experts' in India, they really would die out without those sorts of places. I've also visited East Africa on three occasions now, including the lesser known places like Selous and Ruaha and the level of knowledge there is so impressive amongst the wardens / guides and so on - it's such a shame the Indians can't learn from them.
Difficulty in Africa is the amount of poaching - the number of Chinese that want to go shooting etc is very very sad, and as they are paying for a lot of infrastructure there (roads and so on) the governments of Tanzania and neighbouring countries are allowing them to do it (albeit in certain areas) to raise money. It's also such a shame that the ivory trade shows no sign of abating, and the desire on the East for 'remedies' often involving rare animals.
I understand re the extinction issue, but there is surely a difference between becoming naturally extinct and being wiped out by human 'sport' (I use the word as loosely as possible). |
The only people with any real power to do anything are the leaders of countries and governments.
Charities and the public can only do so much.
Politics is the only way to tackle the problems at hand but very few are trying. | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 01:16 - Oct 24 with 574 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 01:06 - Oct 24 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
The only people with any real power to do anything are the leaders of countries and governments.
Charities and the public can only do so much.
Politics is the only way to tackle the problems at hand but very few are trying. |
if you have any interest in big animals, I would really recommend if you ever get chance to go to the Golden Triangle (the border of Thailand, Laos and Myanmar on the Mekong) to the elephant conservation projects up there. I spent some time at the elephant conservation project based at the Anantara hotel (in conjunction with the Four Seasons) working with Mahouts and their families.
The Thai government had to answer the growing issue with elephants that had historically been used in the teak industry, and which due to the decline in teak (because of bans in the West) had led to the elephants and the mahouts that had always handled them for logging etc finding themselves with nothing to do other than parade the elephants around cities getting them to perform tricks for tourists. The project takes the mahouts and their elephants and creates a sustainable environment where they can live, and the elephants can breed safely, with the government giving grants as well as the hotels. The alternative was that the government bought the elephants, but the mahouts (having no expertise in anything other than raising and handling elephants) could do nothing with the money other than buy another elephant.
they are really having a lot of success up there. It's wonderful to see, and wonderful to spend time with the animals. | | | |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 01:44 - Oct 24 with 559 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 01:16 - Oct 24 by londonlisa2001 |
if you have any interest in big animals, I would really recommend if you ever get chance to go to the Golden Triangle (the border of Thailand, Laos and Myanmar on the Mekong) to the elephant conservation projects up there. I spent some time at the elephant conservation project based at the Anantara hotel (in conjunction with the Four Seasons) working with Mahouts and their families.
The Thai government had to answer the growing issue with elephants that had historically been used in the teak industry, and which due to the decline in teak (because of bans in the West) had led to the elephants and the mahouts that had always handled them for logging etc finding themselves with nothing to do other than parade the elephants around cities getting them to perform tricks for tourists. The project takes the mahouts and their elephants and creates a sustainable environment where they can live, and the elephants can breed safely, with the government giving grants as well as the hotels. The alternative was that the government bought the elephants, but the mahouts (having no expertise in anything other than raising and handling elephants) could do nothing with the money other than buy another elephant.
they are really having a lot of success up there. It's wonderful to see, and wonderful to spend time with the animals. |
It sounds like they're doing a great job and I'm sure it would be a great trip. | |
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| Anybody want to buy a Rolex Oyster? on 02:25 - Oct 24 with 548 views | scottishjack |
And this is why I enjoy Planet Swans... where else could you go from somebody selling a watch, to saving the wild tigers and such?
Brilliant! |  | | |
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