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It's just occurred to me that clown is apparently from London. I would assume his family live there... no doubt paid for by the likes of us, why can't they clap the bastards in irons and make it a quid pro quo: you kill a British hostage, we drown your entire family like unwanted kittens.
That would be 278 less to worry about.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 10:27 - Sep 16 with 1534 views
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 10:38 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack
Well that s a relief then.
There again, maybe they haven't the means to blow up planes into buildings, but there again 9/11 was a plot wasn't it by America
Perch, I understand that you have a very black and white way of looking at things but why do you find it so difficult to believe that the US are implicit in these things?
The evidence is staring us in the face but, for whatever reason, it isn't reported that way in the Western media.
The point that ISIS have stemmed from those Syrian freedom fighters that we were so happy to fund when they were fighting against Assad is not conjecture....it's fact. And I say we because the UK are equally as complicit.
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Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 12:41 - Sep 16 with 1490 views
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 02:08 - Sep 16 by Lord_Bony
The Above x10
The West is now going out there to fight.
WW3 is coming people,make no mistake...
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I watched the film, what complete nonsense.
He reckons if an American city were nuked it would bring the whole country down!!
He then goes on to say that both Republicans and Democrats want war and that is why Obama has been sidestepping Congress and ordering air strikes!
I reckon a nuclear attack on the States would galvanise them, not bring them down.
And why would Obama go around Congress if they both want ISIL taken care of? Only thing I can think of is he wants limited action but Congress would order "boots on the ground"
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 11:35 - Sep 16 by MillJack
Perch, I understand that you have a very black and white way of looking at things but why do you find it so difficult to believe that the US are implicit in these things?
The evidence is staring us in the face but, for whatever reason, it isn't reported that way in the Western media.
The point that ISIS have stemmed from those Syrian freedom fighters that we were so happy to fund when they were fighting against Assad is not conjecture....it's fact. And I say we because the UK are equally as complicit.
Perch finds it's difficult to post never mind understand what's really happening. He's writes in the style of a scouse Pam Ayres.
As Milljack says - us (the west) have created a big problem and we have no strategy to combat it. We f*cked up yet no one is admitting it.
Osama Bin laden (according to the FBI and CIA websites) was not listed as responsible for 9/11, he was responsible for other events prior to 2001 but not 9/11. When asked about this the CIA said that the is no evidence whatsoever that he was involved.in the attacks on the world trade centre.
6 of the accused hi jackers were not even on the planes, 2 of them are/were Saudi airline pilots who are alive and were not even in the US on the day of the attacks. The CIA still have not issued an apology to them.
I could go on and on.. the truth is coming out rapidly now and the US government are running scared of this. Why did they withhold the remaining documents of the 9/11 enquiry? Why did they spend more on Clinton + Lewinsky than on investigating 9/11? Why are 9/11 survivors getting cancers? Why are witnesses being 'shut up' from talking?
I'll tell you why -they f*cking lied to us, them and their Israeli cronies.
ebo With all due respect you are just forwarding your opinion so far. Its also clear youre in the chrissy camp that requires you need to get personal so tis is where I tell you to shove your prejudice up you ringpiece. You with me so far as I didn't finf that so difficult but what I do is you seemingly compelled to see conspiracy theories ;its re ordained. We have a very wing group on this site and this is manifest on almost every page.
I repeat your views are like anyone else,jackshit really . Its not a matter of black and white more a case of being able to think freely without political ideals getting in the way.
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 13:39 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack
ebo With all due respect you are just forwarding your opinion so far. Its also clear youre in the chrissy camp that requires you need to get personal so tis is where I tell you to shove your prejudice up you ringpiece. You with me so far as I didn't finf that so difficult but what I do is you seemingly compelled to see conspiracy theories ;its re ordained. We have a very wing group on this site and this is manifest on almost every page.
I repeat your views are like anyone else,jackshit really . Its not a matter of black and white more a case of being able to think freely without political ideals getting in the way.
Hope you understand this foregoing chaps.
With all due respect Perch, and this isn't being personal, I don't think you're actually thinking freely, you're following the rhetoric of the UK media.
In your head it's Western Powers & Allies = Good, Muslims = Bad. When in reality things are far more complicated than that, as a gentleman of your age should know.
I m glad its not personal. You don't now me, we ve not met therefore any judgement are made from stuff posted on here. If people honestly believe they know someone and what makes them think then they are delusioned. I think as I want and frankly I am contempt for all political parties theses days
As I see it, we have men willing to go overseas and behead people for a cause they believe in. Now I believe in a few things but Ive not yet felt the need to seek out people, who are actually aid workers, and chop their heads off. I matters not who or which party is running our country; these people are free to do this for their belief. No matter what America might have done or not done, nothing ,no cause justifies this so its pure garbage to bring up conspiracies as to being a reason why young men feel compelled to act this way. THEY DO IT BECASUE THEY WANT TO DO IT.
It also makes my blood boil to see America being seen as responsible for 9/11. Ive posted some crap on here over the years, much of it meant to burst some egos, but that beaut takes some beating. Finally, if youre still with me, my contempt for George Galloway is mainly because he is using Islam/Muslims purely to further his career .Here is a guy that blames America for everything.
Nobody by the way, has been able to come up with a reply to my earlier post regarding our (Britain) disgusting colonial past which many revere as we were shining a light into Africa-making the savages Christian-.
We all share guilt over this or should do so its why I uneasy with our people looking this way at America.
Tom,I don't think that he said that for no other reason than he hates America and this country too really and only wants to see himself as Muslim friendly. He s lauded both Saddam and Gaddafi, two butchers of thousands, so its hard to take anything this man says as genuine. A really clever and utterly rutless politician who conned people by the bucketful. ,This world ,this country has tried class hatred before-70 s 80s full of it, greedy leftie kunts like Hatton,Mulhearn, "working class champions" Socialist Workers etc that the people subsequently saw through and dumped. THEN we had Blair and NEW labour which now the same people some want to replace with old Labour.
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 14:25 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack
I m glad its not personal. You don't now me, we ve not met therefore any judgement are made from stuff posted on here. If people honestly believe they know someone and what makes them think then they are delusioned. I think as I want and frankly I am contempt for all political parties theses days
As I see it, we have men willing to go overseas and behead people for a cause they believe in. Now I believe in a few things but Ive not yet felt the need to seek out people, who are actually aid workers, and chop their heads off. I matters not who or which party is running our country; these people are free to do this for their belief. No matter what America might have done or not done, nothing ,no cause justifies this so its pure garbage to bring up conspiracies as to being a reason why young men feel compelled to act this way. THEY DO IT BECASUE THEY WANT TO DO IT.
It also makes my blood boil to see America being seen as responsible for 9/11. Ive posted some crap on here over the years, much of it meant to burst some egos, but that beaut takes some beating. Finally, if youre still with me, my contempt for George Galloway is mainly because he is using Islam/Muslims purely to further his career .Here is a guy that blames America for everything.
Nobody by the way, has been able to come up with a reply to my earlier post regarding our (Britain) disgusting colonial past which many revere as we were shining a light into Africa-making the savages Christian-.
We all share guilt over this or should do so its why I uneasy with our people looking this way at America.
Finally, if people hate it, don't go there
Firstly, I am in no way trivialising the issue of UK citizens fighting for IS abroad and committing the atrocities they are, that's not an issue. The issue is who are IS and where have they come from? Nobody had heard of them 6 months ago but all of a sudden they're the number 1 threat to the democratic world. It hasn't happened purely by chance, it's been carefully planned by "our" governments.
12 months ago Obama wanted to bomb Syria due to alleged chemical weapons offences, which were later proven to be absolute nonsense. A war weary American public refused to support the action (fortunately!) and it was put on a back burner. 12 months down the line and Obama suddenly has his excuse to bomb Syria due to IS (who they funded last year) and these apparent beheadings which many experts have already admitted are likely to have been staged.
You can call it a conspiracy theory if you like, but only because you clearly haven't looked at the facts.
If I was to find a bees nest and prod it, whose fault would it be if I was to get stung, me or the bees??
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Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 15:20 - Sep 16 with 1388 views
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 15:07 - Sep 16 by MillJack
Firstly, I am in no way trivialising the issue of UK citizens fighting for IS abroad and committing the atrocities they are, that's not an issue. The issue is who are IS and where have they come from? Nobody had heard of them 6 months ago but all of a sudden they're the number 1 threat to the democratic world. It hasn't happened purely by chance, it's been carefully planned by "our" governments.
12 months ago Obama wanted to bomb Syria due to alleged chemical weapons offences, which were later proven to be absolute nonsense. A war weary American public refused to support the action (fortunately!) and it was put on a back burner. 12 months down the line and Obama suddenly has his excuse to bomb Syria due to IS (who they funded last year) and these apparent beheadings which many experts have already admitted are likely to have been staged.
You can call it a conspiracy theory if you like, but only because you clearly haven't looked at the facts.
If I was to find a bees nest and prod it, whose fault would it be if I was to get stung, me or the bees??
You lost me at "carefully planned by ... governments".
Governments have never really managed anything more sophisticated than the tactic of my enemy's enemy is my friend. Assad = bad. ISIS = enemy of Assad = good. Lets give them some weapons and hope for the best.
The thought of Government coming up with - and then successfully executing - a plan like this is a bit laughable. They couldn't even run a postal service effectively.
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Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 15:27 - Sep 16 with 1375 views
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 15:21 - Sep 16 by jackonicko
You lost me at "carefully planned by ... governments".
Governments have never really managed anything more sophisticated than the tactic of my enemy's enemy is my friend. Assad = bad. ISIS = enemy of Assad = good. Lets give them some weapons and hope for the best.
The thought of Government coming up with - and then successfully executing - a plan like this is a bit laughable. They couldn't even run a postal service effectively.
Or sell one.
Anyone remember Rambo 2? That was the film dedicated to those plucky fighters in Afghanistan fighting the red menace. Whatever happened to them? And what about that moustachioed chappy in Iraq who the US armed to fight Iran?
You can guarantee whoever we're siding with this month in Syria/Iraq will be seen as a threat in the not too distant future. What do you mean, we've always been at war with Eastasia mun ...
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 15:20 - Sep 16 by epaul
Gadddaffi and Saddam may have but nut jobs but it's funny how the middle east was fairly stable when they were in power
"Fairly stable" Lockerbie, London embassy siege, Entebbe, Olympic massacre to name but a few...yeah! pretty stable, though it depends what some people call stable I suppose.
So now its kinda morphed into Saddam and Gaddafi did a good job in keeping their countries stable. Therein lies the problem. The worst aspect about the IRAQ war wasn't going in but not considering what alternatives there were to them. As its a tribal affair in both countries the answer is nothing and that why we should have left this god forsaken part of the world with all the murdering poison it brings to innocent British people,well alone and let them kill each other or rather let Saddam and Gaddafi eliminate any opposition, basically like the old mother Russia days much pined over by some. THIS is why GALLOWAY is dangewrous and toxic as his warped selective tirades are swallowed by the gullible still harking back to the days of Marx and Kier Hardie.
Frankly I just wished America hadnt intervened anywhere where they thought there was a good cause. Vietnam was a disaster but the cause was purely down to French cowardice and neglect. The French seem to have got away with that somehow. Anyway, just hope ebo understood .
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 17:07 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack
So now its kinda morphed into Saddam and Gaddafi did a good job in keeping their countries stable. Therein lies the problem. The worst aspect about the IRAQ war wasn't going in but not considering what alternatives there were to them. As its a tribal affair in both countries the answer is nothing and that why we should have left this god forsaken part of the world with all the murdering poison it brings to innocent British people,well alone and let them kill each other or rather let Saddam and Gaddafi eliminate any opposition, basically like the old mother Russia days much pined over by some. THIS is why GALLOWAY is dangewrous and toxic as his warped selective tirades are swallowed by the gullible still harking back to the days of Marx and Kier Hardie.
Frankly I just wished America hadnt intervened anywhere where they thought there was a good cause. Vietnam was a disaster but the cause was purely down to French cowardice and neglect. The French seem to have got away with that somehow. Anyway, just hope ebo understood .
Pam the Scouse
At last some common ground Perch! As I said in my last post the USA has a lot to do with what is wrong with the world, yes they should never have entered Vietnam and yes ditto Iraq. But isn't it astonishing that they point the finger at states that allegedly have WMD when the USA have used it in spades in the past. Vietnam - napalm, carpet bombing. Iraq - cluster bombs, white phosphorus and so on.
Right then.....no conspiracy theory just pieces of a puzzle put back together by very honest people.
9/11 was engineered by the CIA, Mossad and Saudi Arabia, but they pinned it on a man they have zero evidence of being involved in the attack. An easy target and what better excuse to scare people into going into war to get what they really want and that's assets and control.
How people can actually believe that aviation fuel actually melted steel is absolutely staggering. it defies the laws of physics totally. If you look at the fires in the building, we saw red flames and thick black acrid smoke which tells us that the fire was starved of oxygen and there was no fireball/firestorm that would happen if enough oxygen was feeding the fires.
Even more incredible, no one found the black boxes yet they found the hi-jackers passports intact! A friend of mine has a cousin who was a fireman in the towers on that day, thankfully he was not hurt but he swears blind that he felt and heard 2 explosions from the basement 20 minutes after the last plane struck. Firemen were evacuating people shouting that there were explosions below.
No one can explain why the 3rd building collapsed the same way as the other 2 yet it was not hit!
My take? Americans are not very bright. Americans don't think. They accept what they are told. They don't TEST what they are told. They are lazy, and naive to the point of being undeserving of liberty. And for that reason they will sacrifice liberty for what they perceive to be security. And as long as the talking-heads can convince the general public that the federal government can PROTECT THEM, the sheeple will patriotically give up every right they have if it makes them feel safe -- while singing GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 19:37 - Sep 16 by Ebo
At last some common ground Perch! As I said in my last post the USA has a lot to do with what is wrong with the world, yes they should never have entered Vietnam and yes ditto Iraq. But isn't it astonishing that they point the finger at states that allegedly have WMD when the USA have used it in spades in the past. Vietnam - napalm, carpet bombing. Iraq - cluster bombs, white phosphorus and so on.
Right then.....no conspiracy theory just pieces of a puzzle put back together by very honest people.
9/11 was engineered by the CIA, Mossad and Saudi Arabia, but they pinned it on a man they have zero evidence of being involved in the attack. An easy target and what better excuse to scare people into going into war to get what they really want and that's assets and control.
How people can actually believe that aviation fuel actually melted steel is absolutely staggering. it defies the laws of physics totally. If you look at the fires in the building, we saw red flames and thick black acrid smoke which tells us that the fire was starved of oxygen and there was no fireball/firestorm that would happen if enough oxygen was feeding the fires.
Even more incredible, no one found the black boxes yet they found the hi-jackers passports intact! A friend of mine has a cousin who was a fireman in the towers on that day, thankfully he was not hurt but he swears blind that he felt and heard 2 explosions from the basement 20 minutes after the last plane struck. Firemen were evacuating people shouting that there were explosions below.
No one can explain why the 3rd building collapsed the same way as the other 2 yet it was not hit!
My take? Americans are not very bright. Americans don't think. They accept what they are told. They don't TEST what they are told. They are lazy, and naive to the point of being undeserving of liberty. And for that reason they will sacrifice liberty for what they perceive to be security. And as long as the talking-heads can convince the general public that the federal government can PROTECT THEM, the sheeple will patriotically give up every right they have if it makes them feel safe -- while singing GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Give this a looksy
You spew out that load of old b*llox....then accuse the americans of not being very bright. Jesus wept.
Is that the best you can do? Post a quote and a sarky comment. You've got no answer to my post as you cannot think of any.
Not the sharpest tool in the box are you? There again you believe what politicians tell you. You believe everything the daily newspapers and our biased news channels tell us.
You're just ignorant, pointless replying to you really as it will just float through that empty head of yours.
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 19:53 - Sep 16 by Flashberryjack
You spew out that load of old b*llox....then accuse the americans of not being very bright. Jesus wept.
Just out of curiosity, yourself and others who have completely rubbished alternative theories (facts) on 911....
Why are you completely so dismissive, especially in light of so many experts providing evidence to the contrary.
Is it because you just don't want to accept you live in a world where a huge superpower, and a superpower that just so happens to be our closest ally would be capable of this?
Just don't think this sort of stuff goes on at that level, "they're" not capable of it?
On a similar but separate note, do you think Putin gave the order to down the Malaysian plane, but perhaps got the wrong one? Would he or Russia be capable of that for a reason to start reclaiming the old USSR?
You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
Jihadi John, this beheading bloke. on 20:13 - Sep 16 by _
Just out of curiosity, yourself and others who have completely rubbished alternative theories (facts) on 911....
Why are you completely so dismissive, especially in light of so many experts providing evidence to the contrary.
Is it because you just don't want to accept you live in a world where a huge superpower, and a superpower that just so happens to be our closest ally would be capable of this?
Just don't think this sort of stuff goes on at that level, "they're" not capable of it?
On a similar but separate note, do you think Putin gave the order to down the Malaysian plane, but perhaps got the wrong one? Would he or Russia be capable of that for a reason to start reclaiming the old USSR?
Hahahaha listen to this tw*t.
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