| Climate not-changed day 23:11 - Oct 1 with 3098 views | jackonicko |
Today is the 18th anniversary of the day the world defeated a common enemy. Global Warming.
Yes, it is 18 years to the day since the earth stopped warming. The temperature has plateaued ever since. Unbelievable that it was so long ago.
It is a tribute to all mankind that the world could put aside it's differences and achieve this. Admittedly, 18 years ago, they didn't know they had to. But well done all the same. |  | | |  |
| Climate not-changed day on 00:37 - Oct 2 with 3048 views | Uxbridge |
For someone who can be so right on some things, you can be so wrong on others. Sad times. |  |
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| Climate not-changed day on 11:56 - Oct 2 with 2880 views | LeonisGod |
Or....
Arctic sea ice extent still below average
Arctic sea surface temperatures rising
Greenland losing ice at increasing rate
Southern Ocean is warming too
Rate of loss of land ice on Antarctica increasing
Massive ice loss on the western Antarctic Peninsula
As for sea ice recovering, well this year (and last) were better apparently, but the minimum this year is still below the recent average for the same day:
That site you link to is terrible. A conspiracy theory blog for skeptics. For example, this is just a complete lie:
"Climate experts claim Arctic sea ice and just about everything else in climate is governed by a man-made CO2 "control knob" and most definitely not related to natural ocean oscillations ".
The literature is stuffed full of papers looking at natural cycles and how they relate to the longer term trends.
If you are genuinely interested in the climate of the arctic region, I'd recommend looking at some of the information from the groups that hold data on it:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/
This site debunks some of the commonly peddled climate myths too - http://www.skepticalscience.com/ |  | | |
| Climate not-changed day on 17:02 - Oct 2 with 2823 views | jackonicko |
| Climate not-changed day on 00:37 - Oct 2 by Uxbridge |
For someone who can be so right on some things, you can be so wrong on others. Sad times. |
Who said anything about right or wrong? I'm not denying man made climate change, I'm merely suggesting that the scientific consensus cannot as concrete as they would like you to believe.
There was this quote in the paper today, by a professor from a US university, which sums it up perfectly for me:
“The fact that no one predicted what’s happened in the past 18 years indicates we have a long way to go to understand the climate system. And that the way the predictions were wrong were all to one direction, which means the predictions or the science is biased in one direction, toward overcooking the atmosphere… Our ignorance is simply enormous when it comes to the climate system, and our understanding is certainly not strong and solid enough to make policy about climate because we don’t even know what it’s going to do”
In the meantime, every household in Britain will be paying hundreds of pounds a year due to Government policy, based on science that is fudged (University of East Anglia), biased (many groups are funded by special interest groups) and on a topic that is too complex for the human race yet to fully understand.
I once read that the magnetic north and south poles are currently switching ends. Apparently this happens every few hundred thousand years on Earth. This must be a nightmare for compasses, but imagine the impact of switching magnetic fields on all those very hot rays coming from the sun? Does it make the earth more likely to warm or less likely? Who the hell knows? Current climate science doesn't, current climate science doesn't factor that in, but current climate science still believes with fervent certainty that it's humans causing it.
My default response when the Government tells me something is to ask why are you lying to me? They usually are. My default is to question what I'm told. For all the reasons above, I struggle to believe we can be *so sure*.
The media is also to blame - even the BBC refuses to put the counter argument now. Those who are sceptical are called deniars. Look at the press articles above - some walruses pile onto a beach and it's immediately cited as to do with global warming as a fait accompli. On what evidence?
The ice doesn't melt as much as predicted for the last few years - well, its all terribly difficult to be precise, but for sure the globe is still warming.
I'm not denying - I just don't accept that it's "proven". | | | |
| Climate not-changed day on 23:42 - Oct 2 with 2774 views | controversial_jack |
Nothing that these alarmist nutjobs have predicted has come true. The earth hasn't warmed for 18 years. Sea levels haven't risen, the Maldives haven't sunk. Polar bear numbers are thriving. Antarctic ice is at a high , the Arctic ice has grown back for 2 years on the trot, although it was supposed to have been ice free by now.
Evidence is real science not predictions |  | | |
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