| Bafetimbi Gomis 21:55 - Oct 20 with 1474 views | WxmJax |
Granted I've only actually seen him play 'in the flesh' 4 times this season, and 3 of them were as a substitute, but I'm not filled with joy by anything he's done yet. Both at Stoke and Sunderland when he came on he barely broke in to a sweat. His speed is deceptive, he's actually a lot slower than he looks, his first touch leaves a lot to be desired and for someone who is supposed to be challenging Wilfy for a place in the starting line up I just wish that he'd try a bit harder. I would take Marvin over him at the moment. Only saw him on the internet against Man U but when he came on I thought we've got another good one here but nothing he's done since has convinced me that we have. I understand that it's a big upheaval moving to another country, I just want him to prove me wrong. |  |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:00 - Oct 20 with 1440 views | ScoobyWho |
He has offered very little, but then we have spent five weeks of offering very little as a team. Big voices behind the team saturday, extra three hrs in the pub may help oil the larynx enough to scare the fuc kers to three points. |  |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:15 - Oct 20 with 1383 views | Spratty |
I defer to DrWinston on this as he expresses my opinion on this so much more incisively than me. But something along the lines of:
The lad needs to be given a proper chance with an appropriate team game plan (backed up with training) that best suits his skills as differentiated from Bony's.
The problem is - as with Bony last year it is difficult trying to balance maintaining performance level! / results whilst trying to integrate and bring up to speed a new key player. |  | | |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:20 - Oct 20 with 1339 views | LeonisGod |
I though Marv would have been a good option up front yesterday at the end. The cheeky blighters were pushing up against us, so someone with a bit of pace looking to get in behind might have just given them something different to think about. Clutching at straws maybe. |  | | |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:34 - Oct 20 with 1299 views | WxmJax |
I was hoping that Dyer or Routledge would have pushed the ball past their defenders and tried them for pace or even passes over the top for them to run on to but it seemed to be that the ball was always played in to Bony whose first touch wasn't always the best. Saying that Stoke weren't really in it until that penalty. | |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:43 - Oct 20 with 1266 views | ScoobyWho |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:34 - Oct 20 by WxmJax |
I was hoping that Dyer or Routledge would have pushed the ball past their defenders and tried them for pace or even passes over the top for them to run on to but it seemed to be that the ball was always played in to Bony whose first touch wasn't always the best. Saying that Stoke weren't really in it until that penalty. |
My view on Gomez and Bony is both have failed to be the players they know and to an extent we hope they can be this season. Both are too lax and are not putting in 100% and this was reflected in Sundays performance. bony was woeful at times, his touch is and continues to be poor half the time and Gomez has done next to nothing since arriving. We are patient at Swansea, but for how much longer ? | |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:53 - Oct 20 with 1238 views | JJJack |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:43 - Oct 20 by ScoobyWho |
My view on Gomez and Bony is both have failed to be the players they know and to an extent we hope they can be this season. Both are too lax and are not putting in 100% and this was reflected in Sundays performance. bony was woeful at times, his touch is and continues to be poor half the time and Gomez has done next to nothing since arriving. We are patient at Swansea, but for how much longer ? |
Rubbish post. Gomis has played well a few times but without much game he's unsurprisingly struggling. Bony not trying? Really? I'm not having that. His hold up play was excellent at times, at times, poor. Not at his best but after travelling to Africa and back and playing 2 draining games, he was never gonna be. He's scored 3 in 4 now...hardly disastrous is it?! |  | | |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:02 - Oct 20 with 1205 views | Private_Partz |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:15 - Oct 20 by Spratty |
I defer to DrWinston on this as he expresses my opinion on this so much more incisively than me. But something along the lines of:
The lad needs to be given a proper chance with an appropriate team game plan (backed up with training) that best suits his skills as differentiated from Bony's.
The problem is - as with Bony last year it is difficult trying to balance maintaining performance level! / results whilst trying to integrate and bring up to speed a new key player. |
I agree with this. I think the lad will come good. He just has not much opportunity at the moment. I felt the substitutions were poor against stoke particularly when Wilf was left on the pitch as well when he was obviously tiring badly. A straight swap with Gilfi / Bony for Marvin / Gomis would have been a better option. The main problem however is in midfield. We are short of numbers in this area and with Leon and Jon Jo out we were always going to find it difficult. When Gomis came on our midfield was spent and we were left with hoofing the ball up to him and Wilf for much of the time. |  |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:10 - Oct 20 with 1180 views | MrSwan |
He is not what we needed, we needed a natural goalscorer like West Hams Enner Valencia or Hulls Abel Hernandez. |  |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:11 - Oct 20 with 1177 views | NeiltheTaylor |
Started the season in seemingly good form and been gradually eased into bad form vegging on the bench | |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:19 - Oct 20 with 1160 views | Dr_Winston |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:11 - Oct 20 by NeiltheTaylor |
Started the season in seemingly good form and been gradually eased into bad form vegging on the bench |
And then used as a targetman when he does get on.
This isn't a shit player just making up the numbers a la Shechter or Vasquez. This is a talented goalscorer we haven't even remotely gotten the best out of yet.
Also enjoying the rumbles about Bony needing "to concentrate on the team and not moves" as if he hasn't been one of our better players all season, duff performance on Sun notwithstanding. |  |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:21 - Oct 20 with 1155 views | ScoobyWho |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:53 - Oct 20 by JJJack |
Rubbish post. Gomis has played well a few times but without much game he's unsurprisingly struggling. Bony not trying? Really? I'm not having that. His hold up play was excellent at times, at times, poor. Not at his best but after travelling to Africa and back and playing 2 draining games, he was never gonna be. He's scored 3 in 4 now...hardly disastrous is it?! |
Bony will always be the type of player who fans of clubs will say could do better. He has so much more to give than he does. He was ineffective on sunday for huge parts of the game. Gomis is a dead loss at the moment, thats how I see the pair of them.
And I want those words firmly turned on me on saturday. | |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:48 - Oct 20 with 1089 views | JJJack |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:21 - Oct 20 by ScoobyWho |
Bony will always be the type of player who fans of clubs will say could do better. He has so much more to give than he does. He was ineffective on sunday for huge parts of the game. Gomis is a dead loss at the moment, thats how I see the pair of them.
And I want those words firmly turned on me on saturday. |
Fair enough. I'm actually confident for Saturday. Whereas I wasn't for the Stoke game. | | | |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 10:25 - Oct 21 with 923 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 22:20 - Oct 20 by LeonisGod |
I though Marv would have been a good option up front yesterday at the end. The cheeky blighters were pushing up against us, so someone with a bit of pace looking to get in behind might have just given them something different to think about. Clutching at straws maybe. |
I wouldn't have minded pushing Jeff through the middle either. Big hoof and get him to chase it |  |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 10:37 - Oct 21 with 907 views | dameedna |
Horrible game for subs to come into when we should have been coasting 0 - 3 up
Gomis and Emnes are the best we can do
Leon and Shelvey's availability is key to getting back on track |  | | |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 11:06 - Oct 21 with 871 views | A_Fans_Dad |
One of the problems is that Bony & Gomis have contrasting styles.
So the team has spent the last year learning to play to Bony's strengths after Michu, ie holding up the ball & headers, no through balls for him.
Whereas Bony's strengths are Gomis' weaknesses, he is OK with one man on him with his quick turns etc but unlike Bony can't handle a couple and is much happier moving on to a fast ball more like Michu.
But the team are trying to continue to play "Bony" when Gomis comes on, it is going to take them a while to realise it.
Bony on Sunday should have come off as soon as he had the Yellow as it cramped his style too much. | | | |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 11:22 - Oct 21 with 851 views | QuakerJack |
I'd rather Marvin than Gomis, he's contributed more, he's more mobile, quicker, hungrier and has a decent shot on him. |  |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 11:47 - Oct 21 with 819 views | Swanzay |
Gomis is a different style of player to Bony, unfortunately the team are not playing to his strengths, just doing the same as they would with Bony. This has been highlighted on here previously. |  | | |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 12:36 - Oct 21 with 771 views | MrSwan |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 11:22 - Oct 21 by QuakerJack |
I'd rather Marvin than Gomis, he's contributed more, he's more mobile, quicker, hungrier and has a decent shot on him. |
You are very right Emnes is a hungry striker who always seems to want to prove himself jut look at the partnership he struck with Bony last year however if we were to play like that Gylfi would have to be dropped but after that chance he threw away on Sunday he should be benched for the first half against Leicester. | |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 12:48 - Oct 21 with 738 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 12:36 - Oct 21 by MrSwan |
You are very right Emnes is a hungry striker who always seems to want to prove himself jut look at the partnership he struck with Bony last year however if we were to play like that Gylfi would have to be dropped but after that chance he threw away on Sunday he should be benched for the first half against Leicester. |
Bench Gylfi for one miss?
How about Ki too for the easier chance? |  |
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| Bafetimbi Gomis on 13:53 - Oct 21 with 663 views | LeonisGod |
| Bafetimbi Gomis on 23:10 - Oct 20 by MrSwan |
He is not what we needed, we needed a natural goalscorer like West Hams Enner Valencia or Hulls Abel Hernandez. |
He's got a higher strike rate than either of those two. Which points more towards us not using him well enough at the moment. | | | |
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