| Very odd reading the board 08:22 - Oct 21 with 7401 views | Parlay |
This is the most positive I've felt, probably ever, as a Swans fan.
Our team is great, the best we have ever had id say. We have a young and hungry manager who knows and understands what we are all about, top half of the Premier League and playing really well (if not getting the rewards as of late). Yet the forum once again is doom and gloom, i honestly cant put my finger on why.
Ive always maintained that the feeling on a forum never represents the true feeling of the masses and I hope this is the case once again as its shocking to read at times. The amount of eye rolls and disbelieving sighs I've done in the last 30 mins reading this beggars belief.
I for one am loving things at the moment, a very refreshing change from the one dimensional, heartless, lack lustre performances of the last 12 months of the Laudrup era. |  |
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| Very odd reading the board on 08:54 - Oct 22 with 876 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 08:40 - Oct 22 by _ |
Sadly I think you are right mate... Why else would he be the only one in this excellent thread having nothing to say about the topic itself and constantly berating us?
That's pretty sad isn't it.... Ah well, maybe it's time to ignore him like lots of others have including your good self.
By the way, did you see Kompany's rant last night. Football's a passionate game all right and the pressure is everywhere...
Not sure he would have given the same interview if they'd done their job properly though.... |
No I didn't as I was working 2-10 but I'll try and catch it on YouTube !
By the way, the SCFC2 guest book is exactly the same as this site in relation to the current results and performance levels. Worth a look lol ! |  |
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| Very odd reading the board on 08:58 - Oct 22 with 877 views | shandyjack |
personally to me it's not necessarily the results that are concerning me it's the perofmances we are putting in after a.we score and b.the 2nd half. Once we score 1 we seem reluctant to keep pushing on and sit back far to early. Our 2nd half performances this season bar 1/2 games have been woeful, sunday included.
My concerns are that Monk can't see that this is happening or that he simply doesn't know how to address it(yet).
I also think that Amat has been a big loss, and that Monterro may fall into the category that Wayne was in under BR, best winger in the squad but will be bit part player for some bizarre reason.
Leon being out has been massive, and makes the isolation of Canas even more crazy, he would of been ideal at the moment |  |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:10 - Oct 22 with 854 views | Dr_Winston |
| Very odd reading the board on 08:58 - Oct 22 by shandyjack |
personally to me it's not necessarily the results that are concerning me it's the perofmances we are putting in after a.we score and b.the 2nd half. Once we score 1 we seem reluctant to keep pushing on and sit back far to early. Our 2nd half performances this season bar 1/2 games have been woeful, sunday included.
My concerns are that Monk can't see that this is happening or that he simply doesn't know how to address it(yet).
I also think that Amat has been a big loss, and that Monterro may fall into the category that Wayne was in under BR, best winger in the squad but will be bit part player for some bizarre reason.
Leon being out has been massive, and makes the isolation of Canas even more crazy, he would of been ideal at the moment |
As I've said in the past, Monk is using the Brendan Rodgers playbook. Under him we used to take the lead and try to sit back and control the game with possession. Sometimes it worked, and quite often it didn't. This is one of the problems I had with Monk's appointment. We've progressed by doing things differently every time we replaced the manager. Building on the improvements made by each separate incumbent. Now we seem to be trying to take a step back.
Garry should be looking to emulate and improve on the style we showed in Laudrup's first seven months, not reintroduce a manner of play that even Rodgers doesn't bother with anymore. [Post edited 22 Oct 2014 9:15]
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:16 - Oct 22 with 843 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 08:58 - Oct 22 by shandyjack |
personally to me it's not necessarily the results that are concerning me it's the perofmances we are putting in after a.we score and b.the 2nd half. Once we score 1 we seem reluctant to keep pushing on and sit back far to early. Our 2nd half performances this season bar 1/2 games have been woeful, sunday included.
My concerns are that Monk can't see that this is happening or that he simply doesn't know how to address it(yet).
I also think that Amat has been a big loss, and that Monterro may fall into the category that Wayne was in under BR, best winger in the squad but will be bit part player for some bizarre reason.
Leon being out has been massive, and makes the isolation of Canas even more crazy, he would of been ideal at the moment |
The only time it's possible to sit back and defend is when you have a defensive unit capable of doing so, a good back 7 (back 4 ,GK and 2 good defensive minded tackling/harrying midfield players) but also a front four who Wil press as a unit. We simply don't.
Giving sides the initiative as mentioned in Bermuda's post is plain lunacy and bordering on the suicidal. | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:20 - Oct 22 with 841 views | shandyjack |
| Very odd reading the board on 09:16 - Oct 22 by Brynmill_Jack |
The only time it's possible to sit back and defend is when you have a defensive unit capable of doing so, a good back 7 (back 4 ,GK and 2 good defensive minded tackling/harrying midfield players) but also a front four who Wil press as a unit. We simply don't.
Giving sides the initiative as mentioned in Bermuda's post is plain lunacy and bordering on the suicidal. |
agreed, attack for us should be best form of defence especially with the pace we have out wide. Also with Bony's aerial prowess we hardly ever seem to put a good ball into the box, be it from open play or set pieces(which are so bad its unreal) | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:28 - Oct 22 with 822 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 09:20 - Oct 22 by shandyjack |
agreed, attack for us should be best form of defence especially with the pace we have out wide. Also with Bony's aerial prowess we hardly ever seem to put a good ball into the box, be it from open play or set pieces(which are so bad its unreal) |
As the revered Dr Winnie has rightly pointed out we are attacking as slowly now as we did in our first PL season. Laudrup to his credit changed that and I don't think there's anyone on this board who would say they weren't orgasmic over some of the games in his first season.
Unfortunately his much repeated personality flaw, that is getting bored in his second season stopped him from becoming the greatest manager in our history and high up on the PL legends board. But his psyche wouldn't allow it and he had to go. Which will be a source of regret among a lot of Swans fans, and whilst he's out there coaching in some obscure desert location (admittedly while picking up tons of cash) maybe in his own mind, too. | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:31 - Oct 22 with 818 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 08:58 - Oct 22 by shandyjack |
personally to me it's not necessarily the results that are concerning me it's the perofmances we are putting in after a.we score and b.the 2nd half. Once we score 1 we seem reluctant to keep pushing on and sit back far to early. Our 2nd half performances this season bar 1/2 games have been woeful, sunday included.
My concerns are that Monk can't see that this is happening or that he simply doesn't know how to address it(yet).
I also think that Amat has been a big loss, and that Monterro may fall into the category that Wayne was in under BR, best winger in the squad but will be bit part player for some bizarre reason.
Leon being out has been massive, and makes the isolation of Canas even more crazy, he would of been ideal at the moment |
The Canas tale is the what if? for me. Was capable of fantastic performances but his passing quite often let him down. Seems to be doing ok for Espanol though so we'll have to put it down to him and the club not being compatible with one another. | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:33 - Oct 22 with 812 views | shandyjack |
| Very odd reading the board on 09:31 - Oct 22 by Brynmill_Jack |
The Canas tale is the what if? for me. Was capable of fantastic performances but his passing quite often let him down. Seems to be doing ok for Espanol though so we'll have to put it down to him and the club not being compatible with one another. |
for me it was a strange case of letting someone go for nothing before we had a replacement in place | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:36 - Oct 22 with 805 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 09:33 - Oct 22 by shandyjack |
for me it was a strange case of letting someone go for nothing before we had a replacement in place |
And while our only other comparable player in that position was injured - idiotic I'll agree | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:38 - Oct 22 with 798 views | Dr_Winston |
| Very odd reading the board on 09:33 - Oct 22 by shandyjack |
for me it was a strange case of letting someone go for nothing before we had a replacement in place |
Was a case of putting personal issues before the good of the team. | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:42 - Oct 22 with 791 views | shandyjack |
| Very odd reading the board on 09:38 - Oct 22 by Dr_Winston |
Was a case of putting personal issues before the good of the team. |
what amazed me was that Canas wasn't given a chance to go away and get his head straight in the break, Monk straight away said he was not part of his plans and find a new club.
This did 2 things,
1. showed clubs we wanted him out so they were able to get him very cheap
2. isolated Canas and all chance of repairing the rift over.
He should of been involved in first team actions up to the point he was sold, and only sold once a replacement came in | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 09:46 - Oct 22 with 783 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 09:42 - Oct 22 by shandyjack |
what amazed me was that Canas wasn't given a chance to go away and get his head straight in the break, Monk straight away said he was not part of his plans and find a new club.
This did 2 things,
1. showed clubs we wanted him out so they were able to get him very cheap
2. isolated Canas and all chance of repairing the rift over.
He should of been involved in first team actions up to the point he was sold, and only sold once a replacement came in |
It seems a part of Garry's character to make bold public statements and leave himself no room for manouvre. Like the statement he made on Sunday is now having holes picked in it in the press, on twitter (as well as the MOTD presenters). | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 17:39 - Oct 22 with 724 views | Davillin |
The best way to defend a one-goal lead is to make it a two-goal lead. So now and never any different. |  |
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| Very odd reading the board on 17:52 - Oct 22 with 709 views | LeonisGod |
| Very odd reading the board on 17:39 - Oct 22 by Davillin |
The best way to defend a one-goal lead is to make it a two-goal lead. So now and never any different. |
Nah, we tried that against Newcastle. Didn't work. |  | | |
| Very odd reading the board on 22:18 - Oct 22 with 649 views | Davillin |
| Very odd reading the board on 17:52 - Oct 22 by LeonisGod |
Nah, we tried that against Newcastle. Didn't work. |
You and I must have been each watching a different game. | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 22:35 - Oct 22 with 623 views | LeonisGod |
| Very odd reading the board on 22:51 - Oct 21 by JJJack |
Everyone should be pleased we are 8th in the Prem. No-one should be happy with 5 winless games , especially against the sides with the calibre of Newcastle, Sunderland and Stoke. That simple really.
To me we have the same problem we have had for donkeys years....an inability to come back from a goal down. People are saying we can't hold a lead....don't think that's too big a problem but the fact that with the odd notable exception (Stoke home last yr and Arsenal away are examples) we are bloody hopeless at recovering a deficit. Where things went wrong for me on Sunday was on a really poor start to the 2nd half where we looked disjointed/knackered/out of attacking ideas. For years we have simply gone like-for-like in substitutions and it rarely works. We don't get the "hywl" when we're behind. This goes back to Roberto/sousa reigns. We just look like we lack belief and I actually was pleased to see Monk throwing the kitchen sink at it on Sunday for a change...we didn't score but at least we were creating chances. I said pre-season our squad wasn't/isn't as good as last season's and I stand by this. We miss Michu, Davies, De Guzman and Pablo and although the keeper is an upgrade I'm not sure about where, if anywhere we've improved? Siggy has done great but was absolutely shot by 50 odd mins on Sun but there's simply no-one of his ilk to replace him at present. Last yr we had Michu, JDG or Pablo to come on and personally I liked Lamah as he was completely off the cuff.
This probably sounds negative....it's not meant to be as I believe we've been unlucky in terms of sendings off and sides taking the very few chances on offer to them more often than usual. But attacking wise, I don't see we are as creative as early last season when we looked capable of destroying sides (Valencia for example), Newcastle and Sunderland home. We'll be ok but midfield is the achillies heel IMO. |
Agreed regarding position in the league - absolutely irrelevant at this stage and when it's so close.
The one thing that is important.. And Brenda used to talk about this, but he is not alone, is performances. 'Get the performance right and the points will follow' used to be the message. That's where the issue is with last Sunday - the performance second half was shocking.
But we do have the quality. You talk about the players of last year. We don't miss Michu, he hardly played and didn't contribute a lot when he did. Pabs? Gylfi is an upgrade and has single handedly provided most of our assists. Ben? Yes, we miss his positive forward play. But he was struggling at time last year defensively. JdG? Absolutely. If I was huw I would have sent him a dozen red roses and a wedding ring, but that's gone. Ki has come back and he's a pretty good alternative.
I think we've got the options from the bench, if they are used well. You mentioned JdG again, but it was rare he was a sub. But Gomis is a new option. Emnes is better than Lamah imo. We don't have the likes of Schecter/Vasquez filling up spaces. This is all good. Montero - we've never had someone like him on the bench.
We've arguably a better squad than recently, but as we've seen it's still limited in certain areas. But that issue is no different than last year, otherwise we wouldn't have been playing Amat in centre midfield. We haven't got to that stage yet. | | | |
| Very odd reading the board on 23:03 - Oct 22 with 601 views | perchrockjack |
It's hard yo avoid the conclusion that some posters on here clearly see themselves better equipped to lead and to organise our team and club so it begs the question.. What are you doing on an Internet site when your knowledge could be better employed by coaching our team.
Some staggering stuff in this thread.
What about the abuse question too phil..
Seems still prevalent.. |  |
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| Very odd reading the board on 23:25 - Oct 22 with 584 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 22:35 - Oct 22 by LeonisGod |
Agreed regarding position in the league - absolutely irrelevant at this stage and when it's so close.
The one thing that is important.. And Brenda used to talk about this, but he is not alone, is performances. 'Get the performance right and the points will follow' used to be the message. That's where the issue is with last Sunday - the performance second half was shocking.
But we do have the quality. You talk about the players of last year. We don't miss Michu, he hardly played and didn't contribute a lot when he did. Pabs? Gylfi is an upgrade and has single handedly provided most of our assists. Ben? Yes, we miss his positive forward play. But he was struggling at time last year defensively. JdG? Absolutely. If I was huw I would have sent him a dozen red roses and a wedding ring, but that's gone. Ki has come back and he's a pretty good alternative.
I think we've got the options from the bench, if they are used well. You mentioned JdG again, but it was rare he was a sub. But Gomis is a new option. Emnes is better than Lamah imo. We don't have the likes of Schecter/Vasquez filling up spaces. This is all good. Montero - we've never had someone like him on the bench.
We've arguably a better squad than recently, but as we've seen it's still limited in certain areas. But that issue is no different than last year, otherwise we wouldn't have been playing Amat in centre midfield. We haven't got to that stage yet. |
You know what, myself, boogs, JJJack, Chrissy , Bermuda, Warwick and a few others should pop over the training ground and offer some advice to Garry and Pep. I'm surprised no one else on here has thought about this. [Post edited 22 Oct 2014 23:27]
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| Very odd reading the board on 23:27 - Oct 22 with 580 views | perchrockjack |
Pop in bryn.
They d be really grateful I'm sure..
Hope you had a good day and sleep well..
Hope we both see a new dawn | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 23:32 - Oct 22 with 569 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 23:25 - Oct 22 by Brynmill_Jack |
You know what, myself, boogs, JJJack, Chrissy , Bermuda, Warwick and a few others should pop over the training ground and offer some advice to Garry and Pep. I'm surprised no one else on here has thought about this. [Post edited 22 Oct 2014 23:27]
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| Very odd reading the board on 23:55 - Oct 22 with 538 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Very odd reading the board on 23:32 - Oct 22 by Brynmill_Jack |
Still nobody???? |
I've given advice to every manager since Billy Lucas from the terraces and the stands.
If only they'd taken it we would be multiple winners of the Champions league (or European Cup as it was).
Perch, that's what this forum is for. We give our advice on how to improve the team, the club, the ticket office et al. It makes no difference but it makes us feel better to discuss these things with fellow supporters. |  |
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| Very odd reading the board on 23:59 - Oct 22 with 527 views | perchrockjack |
Couldn't agree more joke and we ve at it for longer than most.
Bottom line is ,it's not our job and our hopes and dreams are in other s hands so being a control freak like me makes that hard to bear.
And all fans opinions have equal merit..
Those who don't have much in the way of opinion get me all cross | |
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| Very odd reading the board on 00:04 - Oct 23 with 509 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Very odd reading the board on 23:55 - Oct 22 by Joe_bradshaw |
I've given advice to every manager since Billy Lucas from the terraces and the stands.
If only they'd taken it we would be multiple winners of the Champions league (or European Cup as it was).
Perch, that's what this forum is for. We give our advice on how to improve the team, the club, the ticket office et al. It makes no difference but it makes us feel better to discuss these things with fellow supporters. |
FIRST LINE - NOT HELPFUL IF WE ARE TRYING TO NOT GOAD PEOPLE INTO RESPONDING THEREFORE REMOVED.
But it's not advice on coaching Garry needs. It's how to win friends and influence people. At £15.99 it's my first book so do all please form an orderly queue, Monks at the front obviously.
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| Very odd reading the board on 00:06 - Oct 23 with 509 views | perchrockjack |
I think he did ..
Play tidy
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| Very odd reading the board on 07:26 - Oct 23 with 517 views | Phil_S |
| Very odd reading the board on 20:37 - Oct 21 by perchrockjack |
Phil
We agreed to quit the abuse... correct? |
Yes you both agreed to quit the abuse |  | | |
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