| GM modification on 10:27 - Jan 28 with 3273 views | oldcob |
As is the Swansea way. We always leave it until last minute. |  | |  |
| GM modification on 13:51 - Jan 28 with 2980 views | Dewi1jack |
| GM modification on 10:27 - Jan 28 by oldcob |
As is the Swansea way. We always leave it until last minute. |
And get decimal points in the wrong place/ fax the paperwork late or do something else wrong.
Or on Transfer deadline day decide to wait until the summer  |  |
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| GM modification on 15:15 - Jan 28 with 2861 views | ScoobyWho |
Garry Monk has fck all to do with any transfers. |  |
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| GM modification on 15:38 - Jan 28 with 2799 views | Neath_Jack |
| GM modification on 15:15 - Jan 28 by ScoobyWho |
Garry Monk has fck all to do with any transfers. |
You can repeat that as many times as you want, and it'll still be as nonsensical as the first time you said it. |  |
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| GM modification on 15:48 - Jan 28 with 2763 views | football2301 |
| GM modification on 15:38 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
You can repeat that as many times as you want, and it'll still be as nonsensical as the first time you said it. |
he will have a small say but hugh buys the players simple as that | | | |
| GM modification on 15:52 - Jan 28 with 2749 views | Neath_Jack |
| GM modification on 15:48 - Jan 28 by football2301 |
he will have a small say but hugh buys the players simple as that |
Monk will tell the scouting team, what he needs. The scouting team will come back with a list of possible candidates, Monk will decide if any of them is what he is after, then tell the boss that's who he wants. HJ will then go and try and strike a deal for that player. Or something very similar to that.
The rule of thumb on this forum is, if it's a good signing, it's the managers pick. If it's a crap/cheap signing, it's Huw's. | |
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| GM modification on 16:18 - Jan 28 with 2694 views | TenkosBlondeWig |
| GM modification on 15:52 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
Monk will tell the scouting team, what he needs. The scouting team will come back with a list of possible candidates, Monk will decide if any of them is what he is after, then tell the boss that's who he wants. HJ will then go and try and strike a deal for that player. Or something very similar to that.
The rule of thumb on this forum is, if it's a good signing, it's the managers pick. If it's a crap/cheap signing, it's Huw's. |
Correct !
It is a process that involves everyone |  | | |
| GM modification on 16:19 - Jan 28 with 2688 views | jackpot |
| GM modification on 15:52 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
Monk will tell the scouting team, what he needs. The scouting team will come back with a list of possible candidates, Monk will decide if any of them is what he is after, then tell the boss that's who he wants. HJ will then go and try and strike a deal for that player. Or something very similar to that.
The rule of thumb on this forum is, if it's a good signing, it's the managers pick. If it's a crap/cheap signing, it's Huw's. |
Quite right Neath Jack. Thats the way the system works, and they will also be taking into account the values of the players involved ie. not being forced to overpay for individuals |  | | |
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| GM modification on 16:49 - Jan 28 with 2636 views | ScoobyWho |
| GM modification on 15:38 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
You can repeat that as many times as you want, and it'll still be as nonsensical as the first time you said it. |
Ok mate, well, believe what you want. Thats fine.
GM is the manager / coach whatever you want to call him because he wont make any demands, and is versed in the way the board want the club to run. He is a yes man, and thats why he is at the helm.
Ps - talk me thru who this 'scouting team' are then .... [Post edited 28 Jan 2015 16:52]
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| GM modification on 17:37 - Jan 28 with 2569 views | Neath_Jack |
| GM modification on 16:49 - Jan 28 by ScoobyWho |
Ok mate, well, believe what you want. Thats fine.
GM is the manager / coach whatever you want to call him because he wont make any demands, and is versed in the way the board want the club to run. He is a yes man, and thats why he is at the helm.
Ps - talk me thru who this 'scouting team' are then .... [Post edited 28 Jan 2015 16:52]
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Aye, so you keep saying. Every manager/coach is a "yes man" to a certain extent, if any manager doesn't run the club in the way that the board expect to see, will find themselves out of a job, and that goes for every club in the world.
I have no idea who the scouting team are, or why that has any bearing on how players are signed. One thing is guaranteed, Monk has a saying in transfers in and out. | |
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| GM modification on 17:40 - Jan 28 with 2560 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| GM modification on 17:37 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
Aye, so you keep saying. Every manager/coach is a "yes man" to a certain extent, if any manager doesn't run the club in the way that the board expect to see, will find themselves out of a job, and that goes for every club in the world.
I have no idea who the scouting team are, or why that has any bearing on how players are signed. One thing is guaranteed, Monk has a saying in transfers in and out. |
But not the "Final" say, only input. | | | |
| GM modification on 17:44 - Jan 28 with 2549 views | ScoobyWho |
| GM modification on 17:37 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
Aye, so you keep saying. Every manager/coach is a "yes man" to a certain extent, if any manager doesn't run the club in the way that the board expect to see, will find themselves out of a job, and that goes for every club in the world.
I have no idea who the scouting team are, or why that has any bearing on how players are signed. One thing is guaranteed, Monk has a saying in transfers in and out. |
Ok, I will concede he may well be involved in consultation, granted. But from what I have been told the club employ agents to locate players through other agents employed either by players or other clubs thats how we do business.
Swansea pay out hundreds of thousands of pounds each year to so this.
Thats how most clubs do business, and I only choose to believe this as I was told by a local agent in Swansea ( not employed by the club )
I can assure you we have very few scouts, and definitely not a team, that much I do know. | |
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| GM modification on 17:47 - Jan 28 with 2530 views | Neath_Jack |
| GM modification on 17:40 - Jan 28 by A_Fans_Dad |
But not the "Final" say, only input. |
Rubbish.
If Huw goes to Garry and says he's been offered so and so player, the fee is good, do you want him, and Garry says no, Huw just goes and buys him anyway? An example was we were offered Caulker when Laudrup was in charge, and ML didn't fancy him so we didn't go for him. I know people like to make out the board sign players behind the managers backs, but that's just nonsense. When was the last manager we had came out and said we signed a player behind his back? That's right, never.
Now, Huw/Directors will have the final say on the price we are going to pay, if GM wants someone and they are too much coin, Huw says no and that's it.
We get offered players week in week out through their agents. | |
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| GM modification on 18:02 - Jan 28 with 2495 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| GM modification on 17:47 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
Rubbish.
If Huw goes to Garry and says he's been offered so and so player, the fee is good, do you want him, and Garry says no, Huw just goes and buys him anyway? An example was we were offered Caulker when Laudrup was in charge, and ML didn't fancy him so we didn't go for him. I know people like to make out the board sign players behind the managers backs, but that's just nonsense. When was the last manager we had came out and said we signed a player behind his back? That's right, never.
Now, Huw/Directors will have the final say on the price we are going to pay, if GM wants someone and they are too much coin, Huw says no and that's it.
We get offered players week in week out through their agents. |
It was patently obvious from last Summer that GM gives input and is then ignored. How is that "having the final say"
Are you really trying to say ML agreed to Emnes and Ngog because he wanted them?
Get Real. | | | |
| GM modification on 18:08 - Jan 28 with 2480 views | Neath_Jack |
| GM modification on 18:02 - Jan 28 by A_Fans_Dad |
It was patently obvious from last Summer that GM gives input and is then ignored. How is that "having the final say"
Are you really trying to say ML agreed to Emnes and Ngog because he wanted them?
Get Real. |
Ignored or we couldn't get the targets as they signed for better clubs?
I knew someone would bring Emnes and N'Gog up, This was a perfect example of ML telling whoever the types of players he wanted, and we went out and got them. | |
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| GM modification on 18:13 - Jan 28 with 2461 views | Dr_Winston |
| GM modification on 18:08 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
Ignored or we couldn't get the targets as they signed for better clubs?
I knew someone would bring Emnes and N'Gog up, This was a perfect example of ML telling whoever the types of players he wanted, and we went out and got them. |
I can't imagine Laudrup asking for a winger utterly unproven at Premier League level and a striker who couldn't even get into Bolton's team.
If that's the standard of player being offered to managers here then perhaps we're better off firing our entire scouting setup and starting again. |  |
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| GM modification on 18:17 - Jan 28 with 2452 views | Neath_Jack |
| GM modification on 18:13 - Jan 28 by Dr_Winston |
I can't imagine Laudrup asking for a winger utterly unproven at Premier League level and a striker who couldn't even get into Bolton's team.
If that's the standard of player being offered to managers here then perhaps we're better off firing our entire scouting setup and starting again. |
I was going to give you a reasoned answer, then realised you're just being silly. | |
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| GM modification on 18:55 - Jan 28 with 2385 views | Jokeren1943 |
| GM modification on 18:08 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
Ignored or we couldn't get the targets as they signed for better clubs?
I knew someone would bring Emnes and N'Gog up, This was a perfect example of ML telling whoever the types of players he wanted, and we went out and got them. |
What is the point in the board getting players the manager openly say he do not want.
Where is the teamwork in that. |  | | |
| GM modification on 20:24 - Jan 28 with 2293 views | ScoobyWho |
| GM modification on 18:55 - Jan 28 by Jokeren1943 |
What is the point in the board getting players the manager openly say he do not want.
Where is the teamwork in that. |
It's what they do at Barca and Real Madrid and indeed elsewhere. | |
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| GM modification on 20:27 - Jan 28 with 2281 views | waynekerr55 |
| GM modification on 18:13 - Jan 28 by Dr_Winston |
I can't imagine Laudrup asking for a winger utterly unproven at Premier League level and a striker who couldn't even get into Bolton's team.
If that's the standard of player being offered to managers here then perhaps we're better off firing our entire scouting setup and starting again. |
Haven't Spurs nabbed Southampton's main recruitment person. Now that is what you call a scouting network |  |
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| GM modification on 20:28 - Jan 28 with 2278 views | PozuelosSideys |
| GM modification on 17:47 - Jan 28 by Neath_Jack |
Rubbish.
If Huw goes to Garry and says he's been offered so and so player, the fee is good, do you want him, and Garry says no, Huw just goes and buys him anyway? An example was we were offered Caulker when Laudrup was in charge, and ML didn't fancy him so we didn't go for him. I know people like to make out the board sign players behind the managers backs, but that's just nonsense. When was the last manager we had came out and said we signed a player behind his back? That's right, never.
Now, Huw/Directors will have the final say on the price we are going to pay, if GM wants someone and they are too much coin, Huw says no and that's it.
We get offered players week in week out through their agents. |
Hasnt Huw gone through this umpteen times in the Fans Forums? Usually with the Manager sat next to him. Pretty much the exact process you mention above?
People should go to these things rather than make up wibble on the internerd. |  |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| GM modification on 21:04 - Jan 28 with 2217 views | ScoobyWho |
| GM modification on 20:28 - Jan 28 by PozuelosSideys |
Hasnt Huw gone through this umpteen times in the Fans Forums? Usually with the Manager sat next to him. Pretty much the exact process you mention above?
People should go to these things rather than make up wibble on the internerd. |
He didn't mention the 1.2 million spent on agents over 18 months to get the players did he ? | |
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| GM modification on 21:10 - Jan 28 with 2208 views | NeiltheTaylor |
"GM modification"
this whole new trend for clubs going on about their DNA is going to far | |
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| GM modification on 21:29 - Jan 28 with 2173 views | PozuelosSideys |
| GM modification on 21:04 - Jan 28 by ScoobyWho |
He didn't mention the 1.2 million spent on agents over 18 months to get the players did he ? |
I dont understand your point. Agents will pick up a fee because of their client regardless no? | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| GM modification on 21:43 - Jan 28 with 2138 views | pencoedjack |
| GM modification on 18:02 - Jan 28 by A_Fans_Dad |
It was patently obvious from last Summer that GM gives input and is then ignored. How is that "having the final say"
Are you really trying to say ML agreed to Emnes and Ngog because he wanted them?
Get Real. |
Add Kyle 'fuking' Bartley to that list too |  | | |
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