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Ched Evans fresh evidence 17:10 - Jan 28 with 23475 viewsDarran

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/28/ched-evans-submits-fresh-evidenc

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:41 - Jan 31 with 2035 viewscontroversial_jack

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:39 - Jan 31 by exiledclaseboy

Yes it is. So is anal sex. All three have one thing in common - penetration.


How does a woman perform anal sex on a man?
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:41 - Jan 31 with 2036 viewsDarran

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:37 - Jan 31 by Parlay

Oral sex is also rape.



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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:42 - Jan 31 with 2027 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:39 - Jan 31 by exiledclaseboy

Yes it is. So is anal sex. All three have one thing in common - penetration.


So you have to penetrate a woman to perform oral sex?

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:42 - Jan 31 with 2024 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:39 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

What kind of oral sex do you have lol?


Consensual kind.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:43 - Jan 31 with 2019 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:41 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

How does a woman perform anal sex on a man?


Maybe thats one for google or your parents. Not for me.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:43 - Jan 31 with 2022 viewscontroversial_jack

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:42 - Jan 31 by Parlay

So you have to penetrate a woman to perform oral sex?


The big question is how does a woman penetrate a man?
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:43 - Jan 31 with 2023 viewsexiledclaseboy

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:42 - Jan 31 by Parlay

So you have to penetrate a woman to perform oral sex?


Yes. You have to penetrate her mouth with your penis..

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:45 - Jan 31 with 2016 viewsexiledclaseboy

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:43 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

The big question is how does a woman penetrate a man?


She can't but it does seem that women can be prosecuted for rape if they are an accessory to the crime and cause it to happen. So in that respect, I was wrong obviously. That's that out of the way.

But it doesn't alter the fact that without penetration by a penis, there is no rape.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:46 - Jan 31 with 2007 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:43 - Jan 31 by exiledclaseboy

Yes. You have to penetrate her mouth with your penis..


No, that is a woman performing oral sex on a man. I asked do you have to penetrate a woman to perform oral sex? There have been many female to female rape cases where there is no penetration. Women can also be guilty of rape if they force oral sex on a man of which an erection is not required.
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:47 - Jan 31 with 2009 viewscontroversial_jack

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:43 - Jan 31 by Parlay

Maybe thats one for google or your parents. Not for me.


My father is no longer able to answer that, but thanks for your concern
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:48 - Jan 31 with 1998 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:47 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

My father is no longer able to answer that, but thanks for your concern


I wasnt concerned, i suggested such questions should be asked to more appropriate sources than blokes on the internet.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:49 - Jan 31 with 1997 viewsexiledclaseboy

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:46 - Jan 31 by Parlay

No, that is a woman performing oral sex on a man. I asked do you have to penetrate a woman to perform oral sex? There have been many female to female rape cases where there is no penetration. Women can also be guilty of rape if they force oral sex on a man of which an erection is not required.
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There cannot be a rape without penetration by penis. That my friend is a simple fact in law.

If a man had non-consensual oral sex with a woman it would not be rape.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:51 - Jan 31 with 1980 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:49 - Jan 31 by exiledclaseboy

There cannot be a rape without penetration by penis. That my friend is a simple fact in law.

If a man had non-consensual oral sex with a woman it would not be rape.


Well then the 3 women sent down for rape in Alabama for raping 3 separate women should appeal pronto then. Not a penis in sight,
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:52 - Jan 31 with 1981 viewscontroversial_jack

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:51 - Jan 31 by Parlay

Well then the 3 women sent down for rape in Alabama for raping 3 separate women should appeal pronto then. Not a penis in sight,
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That's America, they are weird over there
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:52 - Jan 31 with 1982 viewsexiledclaseboy

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:51 - Jan 31 by Parlay

Well then the 3 women sent down for rape in Alabama for raping 3 separate women should appeal pronto then. Not a penis in sight,
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Ah. Alabama. Forgive me for thinking we were talking about the UK. I have no idea what the law on rape in Alabama is, unsurprisingly.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:53 - Jan 31 with 1972 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:52 - Jan 31 by exiledclaseboy

Ah. Alabama. Forgive me for thinking we were talking about the UK. I have no idea what the law on rape in Alabama is, unsurprisingly.


Forgiven.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:55 - Jan 31 with 1975 viewsjackonicko

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:49 - Jan 31 by exiledclaseboy

There cannot be a rape without penetration by penis. That my friend is a simple fact in law.

If a man had non-consensual oral sex with a woman it would not be rape.


ECB, you were doing so well until that last sentence.

s1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 states that a person commits the offence of rape if:

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,
(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and
(c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

So, non-consensual oral sex can be rape.

However, your earlier point is true in that the first line of (a) is gender specific. Only a 'he' can commit the offence.

EDIT - apologies, on re-reading I may have misinterpreted your last sentence. In which case, you are correct on all counts. :)
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:57 - Jan 31 with 1965 viewsexiledclaseboy

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:51 - Jan 31 by Parlay

Well then the 3 women sent down for rape in Alabama for raping 3 separate women should appeal pronto then. Not a penis in sight,
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Is there a link to a report of this crime? I'm intrigued by Alabama now.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:57 - Jan 31 with 1965 viewsDarran

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:51 - Jan 31 by Parlay

Well then the 3 women sent down for rape in Alabama for raping 3 separate women should appeal pronto then. Not a penis in sight,
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Warra tw*t.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:58 - Jan 31 with 1958 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sexism!
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 17:00 - Jan 31 with 1950 viewsexiledclaseboy

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:55 - Jan 31 by jackonicko

ECB, you were doing so well until that last sentence.

s1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 states that a person commits the offence of rape if:

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,
(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and
(c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

So, non-consensual oral sex can be rape.

However, your earlier point is true in that the first line of (a) is gender specific. Only a 'he' can commit the offence.

EDIT - apologies, on re-reading I may have misinterpreted your last sentence. In which case, you are correct on all counts. :)
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Yes but then Parlay changed his question and claimed he was talking about performing oral sex on a woman (you know the sort of thing, it happens at the other end tfrom the woman's mouth).

I completely agree that non consensual oral sex where a man puts his penis in a woman's mouth without consent is rape.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 19:02 - Jan 31 with 1891 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 16:57 - Jan 31 by exiledclaseboy

Is there a link to a report of this crime? I'm intrigued by Alabama now.


Dont know, maybe.

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 19:03 - Jan 31 with 1886 viewsParlay

Ched Evans fresh evidence on 17:00 - Jan 31 by exiledclaseboy

Yes but then Parlay changed his question and claimed he was talking about performing oral sex on a woman (you know the sort of thing, it happens at the other end tfrom the woman's mouth).

I completely agree that non consensual oral sex where a man puts his penis in a woman's mouth without consent is rape.


Where did i change it?

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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 20:59 - Feb 12 with 1645 viewsjackb

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-31446717

Interesting case
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Ched Evans fresh evidence on 22:23 - Feb 12 with 1582 viewsThursday

If you're wrong about something in the UK, you'll always be able to pick up something from Alabama or Florida to counter. Texas can also be a good fallback, sometimes.
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