| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night 09:42 - Mar 18 with 13135 views | johnlangy |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:25 - Mar 30 with 1321 views | Lohengrin |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:18 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy |
I'm sensing a one man "Leanne Out" campaign gaining momentum here. |
Ha! I've just told my eldest she's not voting for that red harlot!
"Yeah, Dad, whatever." Was the reply, accompanied by the usual eye rolling and muted muttering.
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:27 - Mar 30 with 1315 views | trampie |
I'm wondering if Lohengrin would rather people did not put Socialism before Nationalism ?, would he rather put Nationalism before Socialism and that would give you...................crikey  . |  |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:33 - Mar 30 with 1308 views | trampie |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:25 - Mar 30 by Lohengrin |
Ha! I've just told my eldest she's not voting for that red harlot!
"Yeah, Dad, whatever." Was the reply, accompanied by the usual eye rolling and muted muttering.
My Crusade isn't off to the best of starts, Clase... |
Don't you start any crusades against the young [family or not] the original crusades caused enough problems, once the miners Labour voting generation die out in Wales [lots of them still think they are voting left, when of course they are voting right] then I think there will be an up turn in Plaids fortunes, there will be a wait, but not a long wait. | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:37 - Mar 30 with 1305 views | Lohengrin |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:27 - Mar 30 by trampie |
I'm wondering if Lohengrin would rather people did not put Socialism before Nationalism ?, would he rather put Nationalism before Socialism and that would give you...................crikey . |
I wouldn't have Socialism in the equation at all. You don't get the best out of people when you put them in a straight jacket with a gag in their mouth.
Plaid already have the Ideal of Perchentyaeth around which her thinkers may coalesce. What need of an alternative, alien system have we? | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:53 - Mar 30 with 1289 views | Kilkennyjack |
Well Leanne is an elected leader so you have to believe that her party wants her to lead. The fact that she is so different from the english public school types makes a stark contrast. The cosy westminster status quo has failed wales for too long - like the politically reborn Scotland, wales needs change and to stand up for itself. Enter one Leanne Wood .... |  |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 22:08 - Mar 30 with 1276 views | trampie |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:53 - Mar 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Well Leanne is an elected leader so you have to believe that her party wants her to lead. The fact that she is so different from the english public school types makes a stark contrast. The cosy westminster status quo has failed wales for too long - like the politically reborn Scotland, wales needs change and to stand up for itself. Enter one Leanne Wood .... |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 22:55 - Mar 30 with 1259 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 21:53 - Mar 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Well Leanne is an elected leader so you have to believe that her party wants her to lead. The fact that she is so different from the english public school types makes a stark contrast. The cosy westminster status quo has failed wales for too long - like the politically reborn Scotland, wales needs change and to stand up for itself. Enter one Leanne Wood .... |
She was on Question Tine last week (what a crappy programme that has become). Anyway - I didn't think she was very good. She was asked a question about immigration and started talking about how Wales didn't have a problem with it and also appeared to think the solution was something to do with everyone joining a Trade Union.
She was like an earnest 6th Former debating with the grown ups (which says something given how weak the panel as a whole was). | | | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:12 - Mar 30 with 1245 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 22:55 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
She was on Question Tine last week (what a crappy programme that has become). Anyway - I didn't think she was very good. She was asked a question about immigration and started talking about how Wales didn't have a problem with it and also appeared to think the solution was something to do with everyone joining a Trade Union.
She was like an earnest 6th Former debating with the grown ups (which says something given how weak the panel as a whole was). |
Serious question - Do you rate any leading female politician as your low opinion of both nicola and leanne seems to be rather , well, irrational ? Just saying ..... | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:17 - Mar 30 with 1243 views | trampie |
How rude was JSP on Question Time ?, talking over Leanne and shouting towards her at every opportunity, JSP has been hammered on social media for her behaviour, Leanne did well not raising to the bait, public speaking is not her forte, that is why the less she says in the Leaders debate the better, she is softly spoken, polite and courteous.
Don't forget she was away from home, Plaid and the SNP have appeared on Question Time in England in recent weeks, they just need to pass the ball along the back four and keep the opposition quiet.
The English unionist MP's not having enough about them to try and turn on them with an English audience, certain things that are good for an independent Wales or Scotland might not good for the UK and what's good for the UK would not always be good for an independent Wales and Scotland, these topics in the leaders debate need to be short and sweet answers following the party line.
In fact it would be unfair to ask the SNP and Plaid leaders what they would do if they were in charge of the UK Government as they only seek to be in charge of their own countries and their policies are for their own countries, as regards Westminster they could only be a very very junior partner in some form of coalition. | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:19 - Mar 30 with 1239 views | skippyjack |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 22:55 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
She was on Question Tine last week (what a crappy programme that has become). Anyway - I didn't think she was very good. She was asked a question about immigration and started talking about how Wales didn't have a problem with it and also appeared to think the solution was something to do with everyone joining a Trade Union.
She was like an earnest 6th Former debating with the grown ups (which says something given how weak the panel as a whole was). |
Steven Woolfe talked the most sense.. Plaid are pointless.. That Labour MP was more concerned about losing his constituency to Alex Salmond.. Clearly showed his colours .. My future looks very bleak. |  |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:28 - Mar 30 with 1219 views | trampie |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:12 - Mar 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Serious question - Do you rate any leading female politician as your low opinion of both nicola and leanne seems to be rather , well, irrational ? Just saying ..... |
I don't watch those singing comps shows that people vote on that are very popular, but I heard a betting tip backed up by some facts and figures and that is a lot of the voters are young females 16-25 or was it 18-25 and generalising they will not vote for a pretty young female, its a jealousy thing the guy I was listening talking about it was saying.
I seem to remember that Anna Kournikova an attractive young Russian tennis player with a nice all court game, could play all the shots although a little lightweight, you would think that all pundits and fans would like her, but there seemed to be a jealousy towards her from some females both within the game and from some female fans watching. | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:49 - Mar 30 with 1202 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:12 - Mar 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Serious question - Do you rate any leading female politician as your low opinion of both nicola and leanne seems to be rather , well, irrational ? Just saying ..... |
Serious answer.
I find the gender of politicians to be utterly irrelevant in terms of what I think about them. I like or don't like (and like isn't the right word, as I am not talking personally, but you know what I mean) politicians because I believe them to be (or not be) people of substance, of principle, of well thought out and well constructed argument, with an ability to rise above the sound bite and to genuinely have the intellectual capacity to think through arguments. I may or may not agree with their political views, but I can at least respect where they are coming from.
The two that you name I have a low opinion of, not because they are women, but because I honestly believe both to be lacking genuine substance and political insight. Probably for different reasons actually. I think Natalie Bennett is an airhead. She simply lacks (or seems to lack) the ability to construct, understand or explain policy (hence her woeful performances recently on a variety of platforms). It may be that she is not an airhead but just has woefully bad communication skills - either way, it's not what a political party needs.
Leanne Wood (I think) suffers from having too narrow a world view. I think there is a real problem with Cameron / Osbourne and the Tory front bench in that their exposure to life has been too narrow - they have spent their time surrounded by people who are too similar to them, in background, outlook, world experiences, level of wealth and so on. I believe that Leanne Wood is much the same. I don't view it as being a strength for a politician to have always lived within a couple of hundred yards from where they grew up, and to have studied in the nearest possible university. It leads to the same, somewhat blinkered world view as Cameron has. There is no exposure to people that have completely different experiences, backgrounds, desires, principles and so on. It doesn't make her a bad person at all, just a narrow one, and I don't think that is good for a politician of any shade. I don't think people need to have moved to a different country or anything, just that they need to have expanded their horizons a bit. It also, to me, signifies a bit of lack of ambition, and if she is not ambitious for herself, then I don't know that she can be ambitious enough for others.
In terms of other females - to be honest, it's not a great bunch at the moment is it, with Harriet Harman and Theresa May to add to the mix, along with Yvette Cooper.
However, I lived in West Norwood for 10 years and I have a lot of time for Tessa Jowell - a very very good constituency MP and I very much hope that she becomes the Mayor of London as a replacement to that complete idiot Boris.
Closer to Wales, I have a huge respect for Sian James - I think it's a great shame she is standing down now.
Although I don't necessarily agree with her politically, I also think Ruth Davidson is an excellent politician. [Post edited 31 Mar 2015 18:04]
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:56 - Mar 30 with 1197 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:17 - Mar 30 by trampie |
How rude was JSP on Question Time ?, talking over Leanne and shouting towards her at every opportunity, JSP has been hammered on social media for her behaviour, Leanne did well not raising to the bait, public speaking is not her forte, that is why the less she says in the Leaders debate the better, she is softly spoken, polite and courteous.
Don't forget she was away from home, Plaid and the SNP have appeared on Question Time in England in recent weeks, they just need to pass the ball along the back four and keep the opposition quiet.
The English unionist MP's not having enough about them to try and turn on them with an English audience, certain things that are good for an independent Wales or Scotland might not good for the UK and what's good for the UK would not always be good for an independent Wales and Scotland, these topics in the leaders debate need to be short and sweet answers following the party line.
In fact it would be unfair to ask the SNP and Plaid leaders what they would do if they were in charge of the UK Government as they only seek to be in charge of their own countries and their policies are for their own countries, as regards Westminster they could only be a very very junior partner in some form of coalition. |
Janet Street Porter is always rude, but if a leader of a party can't handle people like her then they shouldn't be leaders of their party.
And 'away from home' - it was in Bolton for God's sake, not in Outer Mongolia.
Glad though that your level of expectation is so high for Leanne that your best recommendation for her in the debate is that she keeps her trap shut ! | | | |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:03 - Mar 31 with 1194 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:28 - Mar 30 by trampie |
I don't watch those singing comps shows that people vote on that are very popular, but I heard a betting tip backed up by some facts and figures and that is a lot of the voters are young females 16-25 or was it 18-25 and generalising they will not vote for a pretty young female, its a jealousy thing the guy I was listening talking about it was saying.
I seem to remember that Anna Kournikova an attractive young Russian tennis player with a nice all court game, could play all the shots although a little lightweight, you would think that all pundits and fans would like her, but there seemed to be a jealousy towards her from some females both within the game and from some female fans watching. |
do you realise how sexist you are being?
Do you think that Clasey doesn't like call me Dave because he is jealous of his masculinity? Or that Lohengrin doesn't like Milliband because he feels threatened by his rugged good looks ??
Believe me when I say that I am not jealous of Leanne Wood - I'm not being funny, but she's neither Angelina Jolie nor Rosalind Franklin is she?
Pathetic Trampie - I don't mind arguing the point over political issues and have no problem with anyone disagreeing with my views as a person but that is genuinely offensive. | | | |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:10 - Mar 31 with 1192 views | trampie |
We have politicians representing areas, constituencies or wards.
I prefer it that politicians know those constituencies and it would be great if they had always lived in the area they represent as they will have a better understanding of the local people and their needs that they are supposed to represent, parachuting politicians into an area they are not from is not ideal, it does happen all the time and some non locals do make good MP'S, but as a preference I would prefer a local person representing their constituency.
Plaid in target seats have English people standing [whether they regard themselves as English or Welsh I don't know, I would hope they regard themselves as Welsh] . | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:10 - Mar 31 with 1190 views | skippyjack |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 23:56 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Janet Street Porter is always rude, but if a leader of a party can't handle people like her then they shouldn't be leaders of their party.
And 'away from home' - it was in Bolton for God's sake, not in Outer Mongolia.
Glad though that your level of expectation is so high for Leanne that your best recommendation for her in the debate is that she keeps her trap shut ! |
Plaid is a wasted vote.. I'm really dumbfounded by who to vote for.. Considering UKIP are apparently going to help people like me.. I'm all for it.. Just like Labour are willing to help foreigners instead of us 'thickies'.. | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:17 - Mar 31 with 1182 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:10 - Mar 31 by trampie |
We have politicians representing areas, constituencies or wards.
I prefer it that politicians know those constituencies and it would be great if they had always lived in the area they represent as they will have a better understanding of the local people and their needs that they are supposed to represent, parachuting politicians into an area they are not from is not ideal, it does happen all the time and some non locals do make good MP'S, but as a preference I would prefer a local person representing their constituency.
Plaid in target seats have English people standing [whether they regard themselves as English or Welsh I don't know, I would hope they regard themselves as Welsh] . |
I didn't say that though.
Having MPs / AMs with a connection to their constituency / area is an advantage, but that doesn't mean that they should never have experienced anything else.
Take it to the extreme and it becomes like North Korea - absolutely no idea that there may be a better way.
And, btw - Leanne Wood is primarily the leader of her party, rather than a local AM - in the same way as Cameron is primarily leader of his party, or Clegg of his. | | | |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:21 - Mar 31 with 1179 views | trampie |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:03 - Mar 31 by londonlisa2001 |
do you realise how sexist you are being?
Do you think that Clasey doesn't like call me Dave because he is jealous of his masculinity? Or that Lohengrin doesn't like Milliband because he feels threatened by his rugged good looks ??
Believe me when I say that I am not jealous of Leanne Wood - I'm not being funny, but she's neither Angelina Jolie nor Rosalind Franklin is she?
Pathetic Trampie - I don't mind arguing the point over political issues and have no problem with anyone disagreeing with my views as a person but that is genuinely offensive. |
Take it up with a betting expert on the radio then, I think he was right about the outcome as well thinking about it.
Its a phenomenon you don't recognise then is it ?, much written and talked about but you don't recognise it as something that happens do you ? | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:38 - Mar 31 with 1165 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:21 - Mar 31 by trampie |
Take it up with a betting expert on the radio then, I think he was right about the outcome as well thinking about it.
Its a phenomenon you don't recognise then is it ?, much written and talked about but you don't recognise it as something that happens do you ? |
I'm neither 18-25 nor talking about X factor so no, I don't believe it to be relevant since it is a completely different issue.
She's not weak because she's a woman, she's weak because she's weak. The fact that she is a woman is neither here nor there. In fact, one of the few people on here that seems to be influenced by that is you.
If the only thing you have left to defend her is trying to pretend that I have criticised her because I feel jealous and backing that statement up with some pop psychology that you have heard on the radio then you carry on.
The entire QT audience must have felt the same way since their reaction to her nonsense on the topic of immigration was to collectively roll their eyes. Much as they did when Natalie Bennett suggested a few weeks ago that the Trident bases all be turned into nature reserves (I mention that since she's the other one I am supposed to be 'jealous' of). | | | |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 05:29 - Mar 31 with 1130 views | Lohengrin |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:21 - Mar 31 by trampie |
Take it up with a betting expert on the radio then, I think he was right about the outcome as well thinking about it.
Its a phenomenon you don't recognise then is it ?, much written and talked about but you don't recognise it as something that happens do you ? |
She's an educated woman, Trampie. She'll be paying more heed to policies than frocks! | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 08:25 - Mar 31 with 1108 views | trampie |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 00:38 - Mar 31 by londonlisa2001 |
I'm neither 18-25 nor talking about X factor so no, I don't believe it to be relevant since it is a completely different issue.
She's not weak because she's a woman, she's weak because she's weak. The fact that she is a woman is neither here nor there. In fact, one of the few people on here that seems to be influenced by that is you.
If the only thing you have left to defend her is trying to pretend that I have criticised her because I feel jealous and backing that statement up with some pop psychology that you have heard on the radio then you carry on.
The entire QT audience must have felt the same way since their reaction to her nonsense on the topic of immigration was to collectively roll their eyes. Much as they did when Natalie Bennett suggested a few weeks ago that the Trident bases all be turned into nature reserves (I mention that since she's the other one I am supposed to be 'jealous' of). |
Your post is total nonsense from start to finish, Leanne is not weak but extremely strong, she is the leader of her party and has the strength of her convictions, she stands up for what she believes in, she has been on the front line many times and got into hot water for her convictions on occasion as a result.
Another poster noted it was odd that you are so critical of the 3 female leaders.
Leanne was well received on QT by the English audience, I noted good applause for her and also I saw on social media that a person in the audience had taken the trouble to say that she was the best on there.
Don't forget she was away from home, a so called nationalist politician and leader (the real nationalists are the unionist parties of course) being questioned in England in front of an English audience, topics on further devolved powers for Scotland and Wales, economics and nuclear weapons could be awkward faced with a likely unionist English panel and an English audience, dont forget Leanne's parties policies are tailored for what is best for Wales, so to get a good reception and good feedback was a success for Leanne.
It will be the same in the leaders debate no doubt, with Leanne mainly up against Brit Nats parties in front of an English audience, with Leanne's parties policies directed at Welsh people not the people in the audience.
So she just needs to keep her head down, smile, answer what she is asked and leave it at that, she will be talking to voters in Wales, not the English crowd in the studio (if there is a crowd that is) or voters in middle England, she can't do much about the London papers as they will likely to be hostile in their reporting of her and Nicola, so I would say its best just to be non controversial and keep the head down and get out of town asap. | |
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 08:44 - Mar 31 with 1099 views | trampie |
| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 05:29 - Mar 31 by Lohengrin |
She's an educated woman, Trampie. She'll be paying more heed to policies than frocks! |
Hmm, I noted the 'I'm not been funny, but' line and reference to Jolie and Franklin, suppose she was saying a fellow woman is not as beautiful as another woman or as clever as another different women, which I thought was a very distasteful remark if that was how it was meant, I wonder if Lisa rates herself against Jolie and Franklin......hmm
Some of the thickest people I have met Lohengrin have been so called educated, educated by the system, told what to think and how to think, they are unable to think outside the box, im not saying that is the case with Lisa for one minute just that a certificate is no guarantee of intelligence. [Post edited 31 Mar 2015 9:24]
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| Leanne Wood on BBC3 last night on 13:51 - Mar 31 with 1067 views | trampie |
Not into twitter, I've just viewed the odd tweet here and there so not sure how it all works but I have just seen what I think they call a parody account that seems to have just been set up in the last day called 'Leanne Would', its got great captions and pics of the lovely Leanne.
Somebody seems to know their stuff, I hope it stays in its current format and is not some kind of set up, so far it seems to have been created by a mega fan, I hope that is the case as the net is a funny place.
So far its good stuff. 
Of course Leanne Wood official twitter is good as well if you like her and Plaids politics but that parody one seems to border on heroine style worship. lol. | |
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