| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:09 - Mar 28 with 3724 views | Daggyjack |
Another pointless study giving the Welsh capital media a chance to spout their nonsense.
No debate I'm afraid but it keeps Abbandeidiot happy. |  | |  |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:12 - Mar 28 with 3717 views | blueytheblue |
Love how WalesOnline ( Owners, Trinity Mirror ) can't bring themselves to name the Daily Mail. |  |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:19 - Mar 28 with 3687 views | DafyddHuw |
Please - stop being so obsessed with the Scum. It's just embarrassing. |  | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:20 - Mar 28 with 3686 views | sherpajacob |
Wales online clutching at straws again.
In Yorkshire I think there is little doubt Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday amongst others are "bigger" clubs than hull. Yet who is currently in PL.
Also if it's over 100 years how the heck can chelsea be 4th above Tottenham , man city and many others. Once Roman Has popped his clogs chelsea will be in the championship within 10 years.
Many of us remember the early days of live football on bbc/itv and it was all about the big 5 utod, Liverpool, Everton, spurs and arsenal. |  |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:20 - Mar 28 with 3685 views | jack247 |
Laughable.
Cardiff were only narginally bigger than us when we were both in league one/two. To suggest that they are now is mental.
The only clubs outside the Prem that could claim that with any credence are Forest and Leeds. We passed the likes of Wolves, Birmingham, Derby the moment we established ourselves in the Premier League.
Western Mail I would expect that from. Daily Mail should know better. | | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:27 - Mar 28 with 3665 views | sherpajacob |
Cardiff being in the capital are therefore a bigger club.
Which of course explains why man utd are the biggest club in England | |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:33 - Mar 28 with 3652 views | blueytheblue |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:27 - Mar 28 by sherpajacob |
Cardiff being in the capital are therefore a bigger club.
Which of course explains why man utd are the biggest club in England |
Man Yoo's support is mostly from their capital, is it not? | |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:37 - Mar 28 with 3642 views | Whiterockin |
Who gives a F*** I support the swans because they are my team. |  | | |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:44 - Mar 28 with 3615 views | westside |
couldn't we sell out our stadium two or three times over like most clubs could in big games so making out only cardiff city could do this is complete cr8p. |  | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:48 - Mar 28 with 3606 views | sherpajacob |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:33 - Mar 28 by blueytheblue |
Man Yoo's support is mostly from their capital, is it not? |
And if the current gulf between Wales only PL team and it's only championship team continues, pretty soon most young kids in the Welsh capital will be supporting the swans. | |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:52 - Mar 28 with 3588 views | jack247 |
Abbos logic is nuts too. They won the FA Cup, no one at the game is still alive, but apparently it's still relevant. They beat Real Madrid (presumably in a friendly?) not sure when that was, but I'd imagine Blyth Spartans and Accrington Stanley were massive at the time. They have a massive potential fanbase, which is a bit like saying they would be a big club if they were a big club.
I know he has to play Devils advocate in the face of overwhelming logic, but still... | | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 13:00 - Mar 28 with 3572 views | Glyn1 |
It's the Daily Mail who compiled the table, not the Western Mail. Paul Abbandonato has as much right to put one side of the argument as does Christ Wathan, nothing wrong with that.
Here's the Daily Mail's table: http://tinyurl.com/ol4m7nh
Anyway, forget about Cardiff - just think that some day we might become bigger than Charlton ... or Burnley ... or Derby ... or even Middlesbrough. A bit ambitious I know. [Post edited 28 Mar 2015 13:09]
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 13:14 - Mar 28 with 3521 views | jack247 |
Yeah clearly. I've mentioned it was the Daily Mail above.
He has a right to his opinion, but it's s but like trying to polish a turd. The fact that a sports journalist can only present such a flimsy argument says a lot about the Daily Mail ranking them above us in the first place. | | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 13:23 - Mar 28 with 3507 views | Uxbridge |
It's cute how they try and stay relevant. Avatomato's missive is basically every CCMB post cut and pasted together ever.
We're both two small provincial cities. Their catchment area is no more or less than ours ... We're barely 40 miles apart FFS. Loads of fans travel hundreds of miles to watch a game,let alone a piddly half hour or so.
South Wales can easily support one top flight team if we were looking at this purely on terms of numbers. ironically that's pretty irrelevant given the TV money anyway.
This article is a perfect microcosm of the attitudes between the two cities though. They are completely and utterly delusional regarding their place in the world. I suppose a few billion from the public purse will breed that. |  |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 13:55 - Mar 28 with 3443 views | Glyn1 |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 13:14 - Mar 28 by jack247 |
Yeah clearly. I've mentioned it was the Daily Mail above.
He has a right to his opinion, but it's s but like trying to polish a turd. The fact that a sports journalist can only present such a flimsy argument says a lot about the Daily Mail ranking them above us in the first place. |
His editor told him they wanted to put a debate into the paper - Chris has got the Swans, you get Cardiff and I want 300 words from you immediately. It's a bit like a defence lawyer defending someone who's incredibly guilty.
The only two of the Daily Mail's categories that are relevant are: Income, and Global Fanbase, because they are the only ones that don't count in historical factors that are beside the point.
On Income we rank 13th, which is about right for a mid-table Premier League side.
It's the Global Fanbase rating that is more interesting. We came in 12th which is higher than I would have expected. (The Mail assessed the Global Fanbase by adding up the total number of fans and followers for each club on Facebook and Twitter.) | |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 14:49 - Mar 28 with 3366 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:52 - Mar 28 by jack247 |
Abbos logic is nuts too. They won the FA Cup, no one at the game is still alive, but apparently it's still relevant. They beat Real Madrid (presumably in a friendly?) not sure when that was, but I'd imagine Blyth Spartans and Accrington Stanley were massive at the time. They have a massive potential fanbase, which is a bit like saying they would be a big club if they were a big club.
I know he has to play Devils advocate in the face of overwhelming logic, but still... |
Beat Real Madrid in a friendly? Yeah alright.  | | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 14:55 - Mar 28 with 3360 views | WarwickHunt |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 12:27 - Mar 28 by sherpajacob |
Cardiff being in the capital are therefore a bigger club.
Which of course explains why man utd are the biggest club in England |
But not the biggest team in Manchester... |  | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 15:40 - Mar 28 with 3280 views | no1jack8 |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 13:55 - Mar 28 by Glyn1 |
His editor told him they wanted to put a debate into the paper - Chris has got the Swans, you get Cardiff and I want 300 words from you immediately. It's a bit like a defence lawyer defending someone who's incredibly guilty.
The only two of the Daily Mail's categories that are relevant are: Income, and Global Fanbase, because they are the only ones that don't count in historical factors that are beside the point.
On Income we rank 13th, which is about right for a mid-table Premier League side.
It's the Global Fanbase rating that is more interesting. We came in 12th which is higher than I would have expected. (The Mail assessed the Global Fanbase by adding up the total number of fans and followers for each club on Facebook and Twitter.) |
What I can't understand is why there's not a time weighted factor applied to trophies. Our league cup win is far more prestigious than cardiffs cup win when non league Spurs won it around the same time.
We knocked out the European champions over two legs but also the competition now is far in excess of what it was in the past and thus surely if you're recounting history there should be time weighted factors applied to the cup comps. The league totals is probably fair enough as you were the clear best team in the land | | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 16:38 - Mar 28 with 3181 views | morningstar |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 14:49 - Mar 28 by ScoobyDoo |
Beat Real Madrid in a friendly? Yeah alright. |
It was actually us that beat Real Madrid in a friendly 1-3 at the Bernabeau. You lost to them in a European cup winners tie. |  |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 16:50 - Mar 28 with 3154 views | Highjack |
Where are Wanderers FC? Old Etonians and Old Carthusians? They should be on the list as they won the FA cup in the same period as Cardiff did. |  |
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 16:59 - Mar 28 with 3138 views | jackal |
This is pointless. All Cardiff can argue is that they have bigger attendances.
The population of Cardiff is over 110,000 more than us. They also have a larger catchment area.
Which is the better club? Just look at the league tables. |  | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 17:16 - Mar 28 with 3109 views | jack247 |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 13:55 - Mar 28 by Glyn1 |
His editor told him they wanted to put a debate into the paper - Chris has got the Swans, you get Cardiff and I want 300 words from you immediately. It's a bit like a defence lawyer defending someone who's incredibly guilty.
The only two of the Daily Mail's categories that are relevant are: Income, and Global Fanbase, because they are the only ones that don't count in historical factors that are beside the point.
On Income we rank 13th, which is about right for a mid-table Premier League side.
It's the Global Fanbase rating that is more interesting. We came in 12th which is higher than I would have expected. (The Mail assessed the Global Fanbase by adding up the total number of fans and followers for each club on Facebook and Twitter.) |
The defence lawyer bit is a good analogy and is pretty much my point. If a sports journalist can only come up with wins from 1927 and 1971, as well as the fact they have a big catchment area, how the hell did the Mail rank them a. Above us b. 33rd biggest club in the country? | | | |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 17:20 - Mar 28 with 3103 views | perchrockjack |
Pitiful stuff.
Is bigger better..
Leeds fan base massive but in terms of profile world wide smaller than us. Their future is big too. Big trouble.
Cardiff clearly cannot handle swansea ...it's killing them.
They feed on swansea s inherent inferiority complex.
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| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 17:44 - Mar 28 with 3069 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Cardiff City or Swansea City on 17:11 - Mar 28 by jack247 |
Yeah I don't know your history, hence the word presumably. I've just googled it and it was in 1971 and was the first leg of a cup winners cup tie you then went on to lose. Well done.
Doesn't really compare to a Premier League double against Man Utd this season in my book, but hey-ho. [Post edited 28 Mar 2015 17:13]
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I.m not comparing jack, you are. hey ho. | | | |
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