| What future for Welsh Labour? 13:25 - Mar 28 with 2553 views | Lohengrin |
In town earlier watching the Labour people out and about canvassing I was struck by the fact that they were all over pensionable age, some well beyond. Where have their youngsters gone?
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 14:08 - Mar 28 with 1747 views | waynekerr55 |
Shows the general ignorance of the younger generations. Why vote when they can stuff KFC in their gobs whilst watching sh*t like the x factor |  |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 15:56 - Mar 28 with 1699 views | PozuelosSideys |
Im not particularly young anymore, but can still relate to the younger generation you mention.
There is absolutely no connection between youngsters and politicians. They cannot and do not relate to them. There is the perception (rightly or wrongly) amongst people that they are unable to influence what goes on politicially and the politicians are a bunch of people on tv who say lots of stuff but are generally full of wind. Younger people can see through the charade far more easily the olders i think and it goes in one ear and out the other. Politics are like pop-up ads..click, get rid, next.. [Post edited 28 Mar 2015 15:57]
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 16:12 - Mar 28 with 1685 views | exiledclaseboy |
This is nothing new though. Did the youngsters of the 50s and 60s relate to Churchill and McMillan? Those of the 70s to Heath and Wilson? I doubt it. I remember despising Thatcher as a kid during the 80s but mainly because my old man spent pretty much every news bulletin spitting venom at the TV. It wasn't until I was older and she was almost done could I understand for myself the catastrophic damage she did to this country. You can trace the current malaise right back to those days. Why be interested in politics when for a generation we've been told to look out for ourselves only and let wider society and social responsibility can take a jump. Modern Britain with its myriad faults was shaped in those days. Kids these days have no reason to be interested in politics and when you look at what's on offer anyway, who can blame them. [Post edited 28 Mar 2015 16:13]
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 17:28 - Mar 28 with 1647 views | perchrockjack |
Maybe the older ones should wise up and realise labour isn't the party of the working classes.
Nobody is |  |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 17:37 - Mar 28 with 1642 views | CountyJim |
Well in Newport West we have a fair few youngsters out pounding the streets the youngest 15
And funny enough UKIP where out canvassing in my area all of them in their 50s/60s and all White funny that the one had a lovely cigar as well smelt lush got to be fair and im a non smoker |  | | |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 18:58 - Mar 28 with 1617 views | Lohengrin |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 17:37 - Mar 28 by CountyJim |
Well in Newport West we have a fair few youngsters out pounding the streets the youngest 15
And funny enough UKIP where out canvassing in my area all of them in their 50s/60s and all White funny that the one had a lovely cigar as well smelt lush got to be fair and im a non smoker |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 21:26 - Mar 28 with 1571 views | Kilkennyjack |
I want to trust them and i need to trust them - but i dont trust them. The strings are pulled from Westminster - and thats a fact. Ed 'one nation' is simply not someone the welsh people can relate to. Its all a bit sad in truth. |  |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 21:37 - Mar 28 with 1559 views | Lohengrin |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 21:26 - Mar 28 by Kilkennyjack |
I want to trust them and i need to trust them - but i dont trust them. The strings are pulled from Westminster - and thats a fact. Ed 'one nation' is simply not someone the welsh people can relate to. Its all a bit sad in truth. |
There is no monolithic Welsh opinion, Kilkenny. A half hour spent on this board ought to dispel any notion of that. | |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 21:41 - Mar 28 with 1550 views | Kilkennyjack |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 00:03 - Mar 29 with 1509 views | skippyjack |
Where are their youngsters?
Sitting on the dole and applying for jobs that have already been sorted out.. While claiming advertisement revenue..
Sitting on the dole because we all know post code and family entitlement comes first
Sitting on the dole because people keep saying you can't read, write or do anything
Called useless and a lazy person that isn't up to the required standard (even though I'll give Lance Armstrong a run for his money on the cycling machine)
Ill disciplined, rude, repulsive, attitude is appalling,
Authority think I'm a drug dealer and supplier among other things (f*cking dense they are)..
Authority mock me
People openly mock me
The Labour govts Curriculum almost killed me (no joke)..
Authority almost killed me (no joke)
Dr Winston doesn't even want me to work I don't think..
It doesn't matter who's in charge.. People don't give a f*ck. |  |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 05:17 - Mar 29 with 1479 views | Starsky |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 14:08 - Mar 28 by waynekerr55 |
Shows the general ignorance of the younger generations. Why vote when they can stuff KFC in their gobs whilst watching sh*t like the x factor |
Funnily enough. I had a McDonald's while watching the voice tonight.
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 17:30 - Mar 29 with 1427 views | CopperJack |
What's the future for Welsh Labour? Simple, they'll remain in power for the foreseeable future, unless of course, Wales takes a turn like the Scots and become increasingly nationalistic and elect a nationalist government. Welsh Labour will continue to centralise wealth in Cardiff in a way that would've impressed even Thatcher. People will continue to blame the plight of Wales on England, despite the fact that many of our services are indeed devolved. Cardiff will continue to grow and thrive and be given golden handouts for every project imaginable, whereas funding to the rest of Wales will continue to be squeezed. People will vote for Welsh Labour because they always have, not because they do any good for Wales, certainly not outside of their capital. | |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:15 - May 3 with 1256 views | trampie |
What town was that Lohengrin ? |  |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:21 - May 3 with 1248 views | Lohengrin |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:15 - May 3 by trampie |
What town was that Lohengrin ? |
Swansea centre last month, Tramp; although I've since seen Labour people out in both Port Talbot and Neath and it was the same story there, mostly pensioners.
This was in the day mind you so it's possible that their active younger membership was at work, but I can't say as I've encountered any particular enthusiasm for Labour amongst anybody younger than myself I've spoken to.
EDIT: My eldest daughter and her friends seem rather taken with The Greens, that's adolescent idealism for you... [Post edited 3 May 2015 22:25]
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:26 - May 3 with 1235 views | trampie |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:21 - May 3 by Lohengrin |
Swansea centre last month, Tramp; although I've since seen Labour people out in both Port Talbot and Neath and it was the same story there, mostly pensioners.
This was in the day mind you so it's possible that their active younger membership was at work, but I can't say as I've encountered any particular enthusiasm for Labour amongst anybody younger than myself I've spoken to.
EDIT: My eldest daughter and her friends seem rather taken with The Greens, that's adolescent idealism for you... [Post edited 3 May 2015 22:25]
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How old was the Plaid ones you seen in Ammanford ? | |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:29 - May 3 with 1228 views | Lohengrin |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:26 - May 3 by trampie |
How old was the Plaid ones you seen in Ammanford ? |
Mid-forties, I would imagine? Do you know them? | |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:29 - May 3 with 1228 views | Dr_Winston |
Mostly seems to be the usual scruffy Socialist Worker types in town. |  |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:32 - May 3 with 1215 views | trampie |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:29 - May 3 by Lohengrin |
Mid-forties, I would imagine? Do you know them? |
Hardly, the reason I ask is because i have heard that lots of the Plaid activists in Llanelli are young adults. | |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:33 - May 3 with 1210 views | Lohengrin |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:29 - May 3 by Dr_Winston |
Mostly seems to be the usual scruffy Socialist Worker types in town. |
They are always there, Winston, flies buzzing around them.
The Labour lot only seem to put in an appearance during the run-up to an election, the same as all the old gang do. | |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:34 - May 3 with 1197 views | Lohengrin |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 22:32 - May 3 by trampie |
Hardly, the reason I ask is because i have heard that lots of the Plaid activists in Llanelli are young adults. |
They may well be, I couldn't say? | |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 00:01 - May 4 with 1141 views | Highjack |
The Labour woman campaigning in Neath is well into her 60's by the looks of her. I read somewhere that she is the wife of Ron Davies, of bendy over sucky sucky get your wallet nicked fame. |  |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 00:05 - May 4 with 1134 views | LeonisGod |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 15:56 - Mar 28 by PozuelosSideys |
Im not particularly young anymore, but can still relate to the younger generation you mention.
There is absolutely no connection between youngsters and politicians. They cannot and do not relate to them. There is the perception (rightly or wrongly) amongst people that they are unable to influence what goes on politicially and the politicians are a bunch of people on tv who say lots of stuff but are generally full of wind. Younger people can see through the charade far more easily the olders i think and it goes in one ear and out the other. Politics are like pop-up ads..click, get rid, next.. [Post edited 28 Mar 2015 15:57]
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But if you go to the annual conference there are plenty of youngsters who are members. I suspect politicians don't really connect with most of us, youngsters, middle aged, whatever. Just more pensioners are looking for stuff to keep them busy. You only ever see pensioner volunteers at National Trust or Cadw places too! |  | | |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 00:18 - May 4 with 1122 views | felixstowe_jack |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 16:12 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
This is nothing new though. Did the youngsters of the 50s and 60s relate to Churchill and McMillan? Those of the 70s to Heath and Wilson? I doubt it. I remember despising Thatcher as a kid during the 80s but mainly because my old man spent pretty much every news bulletin spitting venom at the TV. It wasn't until I was older and she was almost done could I understand for myself the catastrophic damage she did to this country. You can trace the current malaise right back to those days. Why be interested in politics when for a generation we've been told to look out for ourselves only and let wider society and social responsibility can take a jump. Modern Britain with its myriad faults was shaped in those days. Kids these days have no reason to be interested in politics and when you look at what's on offer anyway, who can blame them. [Post edited 28 Mar 2015 16:13]
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Not surprised the young don't vote for Labour after the mess Blair, Brown the two Eds got us into . Huge debts they are going to have to pay back after the reckless spending by Brown plus the deepest recession cause by Labour since the 30s. At least now we have a record number of people I work but I guess some idiots will still vote for Labour as they will no doubt increase benefits for the feckless, bone idle who wasted their school years and now complain thats it is everybodys fault but their own. | |
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| What future for Welsh Labour? on 09:23 - May 4 with 1051 views | Gowerjack |
| What future for Welsh Labour? on 00:18 - May 4 by felixstowe_jack |
Not surprised the young don't vote for Labour after the mess Blair, Brown the two Eds got us into . Huge debts they are going to have to pay back after the reckless spending by Brown plus the deepest recession cause by Labour since the 30s. At least now we have a record number of people I work but I guess some idiots will still vote for Labour as they will no doubt increase benefits for the feckless, bone idle who wasted their school years and now complain thats it is everybodys fault but their own. |
Aarrant nonsense.
You really beleive the recession was caused by Labour?
Dear me you must be veither very unaware of world events or just plain stupid. |  |
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) might say, i'm not going to worry about youngsters because most of them don't vote, i'll look after older people instead because most of them DO vote.