| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread 20:33 - Apr 7 with 83101 views | exiledclaseboy |
About time we had one and it's got the word "official" in the title so that makes all the difference. If a mod wants to sticky it, feel free.
I seem to remember that five years ago (on the old, better Planet Swans) we got to nearly 100 pages and then another 60odd with the "aftermath" thread. They were good fun but there were more posters then and we were all a bit more tolerant of others' views. Let's try to be nice to each other, eh.
Anyway, best site for opinion polls is this one in my experience:
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
Polls are so tight the only conclusion is that the Tories and Labour are head to head nationwide. Can't put a whisker between them.
Tories need about 39-40% for an overall majority. Labour will probably get one on 36-37%. God bless our ridiculous voting system.
So, enjoy yourselves. I'll start with a prediction. Labour to win most seats but slightly fewer votes than the Tories and end up forming some kind of minority government with support from various parliamentary lefties on a vote by vote basis. And then all of a sudden many Tory supporters will discover that they've always hated first past the post and can't understand why we perpetuate a system under which the party which more people voted for than any other can lose the election. It'll be quite funny and lead to calls for a proper voting system. Which everyone will forget about in six months when all the fuss has died down.
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 23:23 - May 2 with 2757 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 09:35 - May 2 by lifelong |
I am warming toward Leanne, I think she is doing very well. |
The voice of wales see ... |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:25 - May 3 with 2670 views | libertine |
why is it that Ed wants to keep it quiet that the 2 school buddies went to school together,
I think the problem for English voters is they don't have a party like plaid to vote for a real left wing party not a joking one like purple Ed,
the greens are a good party to vote for morally
did anyone know that the tax on corporatation has been reduced over the past 5 years |  | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 11:24 - May 3 with 2655 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Plaid will be getting my X in the box . |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:09 - May 3 with 2641 views | Cottsy |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:25 - May 3 by libertine |
why is it that Ed wants to keep it quiet that the 2 school buddies went to school together,
I think the problem for English voters is they don't have a party like plaid to vote for a real left wing party not a joking one like purple Ed,
the greens are a good party to vote for morally
did anyone know that the tax on corporatation has been reduced over the past 5 years |
"why is it that Ed wants to keep it quiet that the 2 school buddies went to school together, "
1. They weren't school buddies, Boris is about 5 or 6 years older.
2. As Lisa as already said, Boris Johnson going to a state infant school for a brief period (that just happens to be the same state infant school that Ed Milliband went to for a brief period) before moving on to an exclusive prep school in Belgium and then Eton doesn't mean that everyone who has ever attended that school is a privileged toff. It means that a privileged toff had to slum it in a state school for a little while.
3. Ed Miliband probably wants to keep it quiet because he knows that the "they're all the same" anti-politics morons will think that he is a toff that used to go fox-hunting with Boris Johnson. |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:17 - May 3 with 2638 views | trampie |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 23:23 - May 2 by Kilkennyjack |
The voice of wales see ... |
They have just done a poll on that very subject - the voice of Wales and the lovely Leanne came out top by a country mile, they had Westminster leaders as well as Assembly leaders like Carwyn Jones in it and Ms Wood topped the poll by a landslide. |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:33 - May 3 with 2621 views | Cottsy |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:17 - May 3 by trampie |
They have just done a poll on that very subject - the voice of Wales and the lovely Leanne came out top by a country mile, they had Westminster leaders as well as Assembly leaders like Carwyn Jones in it and Ms Wood topped the poll by a landslide. |
A leader who can promise free unicorns for every home safe in the knowledge that she'll never have to follow through and deliver any of her promises in good poll shocker!
I remember another leader like that about 5 years ago. On a totally unrelated topic how is Nick Clegg doing in the opinion polls at the moment? | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:39 - May 3 with 2610 views | trampie |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 11:24 - May 3 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Plaid will be getting my X in the box . |
Yes me too, a vote for Plaid is a vote for social justice policies and a vote for Wales and its people.  | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 14:39 - May 3 with 2556 views | libertine |
I don't know how many of you have every really asked your councillors for help,
but I am telling the absolute truth here,
Swansea council labour do not want to help, what they do is show a little interest around election time after the election the interest goes aswell,
I have contacted plaid concerning exactly the same issues and they have helped and taken my case on.
Labour and the morons they have to work for them give a lot of Swansea work to Cardiff business, why ask yourselves value for money, when the service is the same. | | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 14:49 - May 3 with 2543 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 12:17 - May 3 by trampie |
They have just done a poll on that very subject - the voice of Wales and the lovely Leanne came out top by a country mile, they had Westminster leaders as well as Assembly leaders like Carwyn Jones in it and Ms Wood topped the poll by a landslide. |
How strange then that she will receive such a small vote later in the week.
How do you explain this apparent anomaly? |  | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 14:55 - May 3 with 2537 views | perchrockjack |
Why if leanne wasn't lovely.
How do the gogs see her as she s a valleys girl | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:27 - May 3 with 2460 views | trampie |
Mumph the cartoonist is coming out with some classics on his twitter account.
Talking about supporting Wales in football and rugby, so put Wales first in politics by voting Plaid and a classic talking about love Wales, vote Plaid. | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 09:11 - May 4 with 2379 views | libertine |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:27 - May 3 by trampie |
Mumph the cartoonist is coming out with some classics on his twitter account.
Talking about supporting Wales in football and rugby, so put Wales first in politics by voting Plaid and a classic talking about love Wales, vote Plaid. |
trampie,
why do others refuse to take the labour blindfold of, it just a name, it not a real leftist party the policies are the same as the tories,
wales has been run by labour for an eternity so don't blame the tories, labour and it cronies really don't care its just rhetoric, naughty boy owen was told to stop taking Wales for granted,
guys we've got a real chance to change the mess we are in, I don't think there is anyone on this forum with enough economic knowledge to know which route is correct about the economy the tories and labour want more cuts snp plaid greens do not, it suits the tory and labour elite who all go to the same club to help their friends get rich.
why of why are we believing the metaphoric relationship of balancing the books with running a country, they are not the same. The big difference being the happiness of the people.
Do not believe the hype, you are being conned. You are all repeating the rhetorical crap fed to you by the lib/lab/con governments.
has anyone seen animal farm, (not that one you dirty bleeders) the George orwell one, watch it. Even better read or watch 1984 same thread running through the 2 stories. | | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 09:42 - May 4 with 2360 views | Cottsy |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 09:11 - May 4 by libertine |
trampie,
why do others refuse to take the labour blindfold of, it just a name, it not a real leftist party the policies are the same as the tories,
wales has been run by labour for an eternity so don't blame the tories, labour and it cronies really don't care its just rhetoric, naughty boy owen was told to stop taking Wales for granted,
guys we've got a real chance to change the mess we are in, I don't think there is anyone on this forum with enough economic knowledge to know which route is correct about the economy the tories and labour want more cuts snp plaid greens do not, it suits the tory and labour elite who all go to the same club to help their friends get rich.
why of why are we believing the metaphoric relationship of balancing the books with running a country, they are not the same. The big difference being the happiness of the people.
Do not believe the hype, you are being conned. You are all repeating the rhetorical crap fed to you by the lib/lab/con governments.
has anyone seen animal farm, (not that one you dirty bleeders) the George orwell one, watch it. Even better read or watch 1984 same thread running through the 2 stories. |
Don't believe the rhetoric of the SNP either, they may say that they are anti-austerity but according to the IFS austerity under the SNP will be a lot longer and deeper than any of the other parties.
"The SNP’s fiscal numbers imply the same reduction in borrowing over the
next parliament as for Labour, although the reduction in borrowing under
their plans would be slower. They would cut less to start with but the
implication of the plans they have spelt out in their manifesto is that the
period of austerity would be longer than under the other three parties we
consider. Their tax takeaways appear to be offset by their tax giveaways,
while they would increase the generosity of the social security system. As a
result, while the SNP would increase total spending in real terms each year,
departmental spending would be broadly frozen between 2014---15 and
2019---20, and departmental spending outside of the NHS and aid could be
facing a cut of 4.3%. The SNP’s stated plans do not necessarily match their
anti-austerity rhetoric."
http://www.ifs.org.uk/uploads/publications/bns/BN170.pdf
Whereas
"It looks as if Labour might need only relatively small cuts to departments
other than aid, NHS and education spending --- on top of the cuts already in
place for 2015---16 --- to bring about a balance on the current budget by
2018---19. But we can only say ‘looks as if’, because Labour’s pledge to ‘get a
surplus on the current budget’ is vague. Given the coalition government’s
investment plans, it would be consistent with any reduction in borrowing
totalling 3.6% of national income or more. If a Labour government were to
increase investment spending, their pledge would also be consistent with a
smaller reduction in borrowing than that."
http://www.ifs.org.uk/uploads/publications/bns/BN170.pdf | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:05 - May 4 with 2345 views | WarwickHunt |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:27 - May 3 by trampie |
Mumph the cartoonist is coming out with some classics on his twitter account.
Talking about supporting Wales in football and rugby, so put Wales first in politics by voting Plaid and a classic talking about love Wales, vote Plaid. |
Are you twelve? |  | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:15 - May 4 with 2335 views | Lohengrin |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:05 - May 4 by WarwickHunt |
Are you twelve? |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 15:23 - May 4 with 2270 views | libertine |
My youngest daughter said to me today
why don't we live in a happy country like Denmark?
she had been watching something on youtube about hygge
http://www.visitdenmark.com/danish-meaning-hygge
why not?? | | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 20:39 - May 4 with 2221 views | trampie |
Leanne Wood tells Ed Miliband and Labour that her party would not prop up a Labour Government intent on pursuing Tory policies, Labour seem to be accusing Leanne [Britain's most left wing leader observers say] of supporting the Conservatives. 
The lovely Leanne supports the poor and if Labours policies do not support the poor she will not support them, its that simple.
I would really really like it if Leanne brought down a Labour Government for being Red Tories it would make my day if that happened, probably make my week actually.
If Labour looks to help the rich and not the poor then Nicola and Leanne will no doubt punish them. | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 22:08 - May 4 with 2193 views | Banosswan |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 15:23 - May 4 by libertine |
My youngest daughter said to me today
why don't we live in a happy country like Denmark?
she had been watching something on youtube about hygge
http://www.visitdenmark.com/danish-meaning-hygge
why not?? |
Happy Denmark? We're lumbered with their pm's husband in aberavon which doesn't make me happy. |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:25 - May 5 with 2114 views | waynekerr55 |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 20:39 - May 4 by trampie |
Leanne Wood tells Ed Miliband and Labour that her party would not prop up a Labour Government intent on pursuing Tory policies, Labour seem to be accusing Leanne [Britain's most left wing leader observers say] of supporting the Conservatives.
The lovely Leanne supports the poor and if Labours policies do not support the poor she will not support them, its that simple.
I would really really like it if Leanne brought down a Labour Government for being Red Tories it would make my day if that happened, probably make my week actually.
If Labour looks to help the rich and not the poor then Nicola and Leanne will no doubt punish them. |
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😷 |  |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 15:38 - May 5 with 2068 views | perchrockjack |
And urban does of course,in Wales, mean little real support for either Welsh or Nationalism. Its also a case of foreigners, moving to Waales to work in our former massive industrial success stories, in iron ,steel and coal ;times when Wales was pretty vibrant.
Hard to take its true but we re pretty much fooked without the rest of the UK | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 15:40 - May 5 with 2066 views | perchrockjack |
everyone speaks English in Danmark | |
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| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 18:25 - May 5 with 2011 views | WarwickHunt |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 10:25 - May 5 by waynekerr55 |
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😷 |
Trampie's priceless, isn't he?
Not sure how he'll cope with puberty though. | | | |
| The Official Planet Swans General Election 2015 Thread on 19:13 - May 5 with 1990 views | exiledclaseboy |
I nicked this from someone semi famous on Twitter. Haven't bothered checking the figures but they ring true. We can check on Friday.
"First Past the Post: Ukip may get 13% & 2 MP. LDs 9% but 26 MPs. SNP 50 MPs with Lab & Cons in Scotland getting 45% of the vote and no MPs."
All this talk of legitimacy, the latest and seemingly final Tory tactic to keep power, is bollocks. Either main party will have been voted for by about 35% of the electorate. Neither a Labour minority/coalition will be legitimate, nor a Tory one. Even if either manages a majority it still won't be legitimate. Nothing will be legitimate until we get a proportional voting system. And that will make majority government far less likely. Britain needs to grow the f*ck up and its politicians should stop bleating about legitimacy while perpetuating a system that is an affront to democracy. | |
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