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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. 14:14 - Jul 29 with 3051 viewsperchrockjack

In 2003 a plain clothes police officer was stabbed to death in Manchester
The assailant has, whilst in prison tried to kill another fellow prisoner and was segregated.

He s appealed and decision has been found to breach his human rights.

Seems madness to me.

It could mean any prisoner can now rightly claim not to be segregated against his wishes.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:36 - Jul 29 with 1919 viewsLeonisGod

Stupid idea. You can see why the Govt want a reform on Human Rights legislation. What about the human rights of the other prisoners who need to be protected from this nutjob? Or do we only worry about those once he's had another go at someone. Seems a step too far for me.
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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:43 - Jul 29 with 1909 viewsexiledclaseboy

There's probably more to it than "Human rights innit". There usually is. Link anywhere?

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:59 - Jul 29 with 1890 viewsPacemaker

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:43 - Jul 29 by exiledclaseboy

There's probably more to it than "Human rights innit". There usually is. Link anywhere?


http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jul/29/terror-prisoners-segregation-for-

Nothing to do with HRA it's a breach of prison rules by the prison, basically ensuring you cannot put people into solitary confinement for more than a few weeks due to the risk of mental health damage. Difficult for the prison when you have issues within the gaol such as that alleged to be committed by them.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 18:18 - Jul 29 with 1864 viewsexiledclaseboy

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:59 - Jul 29 by Pacemaker

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jul/29/terror-prisoners-segregation-for-

Nothing to do with HRA it's a breach of prison rules by the prison, basically ensuring you cannot put people into solitary confinement for more than a few weeks due to the risk of mental health damage. Difficult for the prison when you have issues within the gaol such as that alleged to be committed by them.


Well there's a shock. Nothing to do with human rights. In fact their claim that their human rights were breached was dismissed by the court.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 18:46 - Jul 29 with 1840 viewsPacemaker

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 18:18 - Jul 29 by exiledclaseboy

Well there's a shock. Nothing to do with human rights. In fact their claim that their human rights were breached was dismissed by the court.


Now you will get it you bleeding heart liberal you! I bet you want red Jezza for leader as well!

Before you know it we will be back in that welfare state or look after your neighbour type of society nonsense.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 19:51 - Jul 29 with 1784 viewsmorningstar

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 18:46 - Jul 29 by Pacemaker

Now you will get it you bleeding heart liberal you! I bet you want red Jezza for leader as well!

Before you know it we will be back in that welfare state or look after your neighbour type of society nonsense.


EXCB a Liberal???? Don't be deceived by the way he tries too portray himself on here. He's a commie. Was often seen around town back in the day in his green parker flogging copies of Socialist worker and that other red rag that I can't remember the name of?

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:03 - Jul 29 with 1764 viewsperchrockjack

Bottom line..we have a killer who has tried to kill again in prison being seen as in some way having his human rights abused

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:12 - Jul 29 with 1745 viewsexiledclaseboy

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:03 - Jul 29 by perchrockjack

Bottom line..we have a killer who has tried to kill again in prison being seen as in some way having his human rights abused


Being seen by who as having his human rights abused?

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:26 - Jul 29 with 1725 viewsperchrockjack

I'm wrong. His claim that his human rights were abused failed, but, the segregation was seen as unlawful.
Bottom line, it changes nowt as thus guy who gas tried to recruit Muslim terrorists in prison has effectively won.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:27 - Jul 29 with 1723 viewsApeShit

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:12 - Jul 29 by exiledclaseboy

Being seen by who as having his human rights abused?


They did mun.

"The pair had also raised human rights issues — they claimed their rights had been violated — but that aspect of their case was rejected by the supreme court."
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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:27 - Jul 29 with 1717 viewsDarran

Kill the c*nt.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:28 - Jul 29 with 1715 viewsApeShit

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:26 - Jul 29 by perchrockjack

I'm wrong. His claim that his human rights were abused failed, but, the segregation was seen as unlawful.
Bottom line, it changes nowt as thus guy who gas tried to recruit Muslim terrorists in prison has effectively won.


Allegedly.
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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:29 - Jul 29 with 1709 viewsexiledclaseboy

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:26 - Jul 29 by perchrockjack

I'm wrong. His claim that his human rights were abused failed, but, the segregation was seen as unlawful.
Bottom line, it changes nowt as thus guy who gas tried to recruit Muslim terrorists in prison has effectively won.


Unlawful purely on a technicality because the proper procedures weren't followed. Nothing stopping him being segregated again. He probably still is.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:29 - Jul 29 with 1709 viewsperchrockjack

He tried the human right route but failed but gained in another.

This guy is in a British jail, folks

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 23:27 - Jul 29 with 1631 viewsScoobyWho

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 20:29 - Jul 29 by perchrockjack

He tried the human right route but failed but gained in another.

This guy is in a British jail, folks


For me the fact he killed a copper is neither here nor there, he took a life and he clearly did it is the issue for me. As a result his guilt is not in doubt. This guy clearly hits the criteria for a cheeky injection and an end to his bleating and complaints for good.

There are others.
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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 10:24 - Jul 30 with 1544 viewsperchrockjack

Agreed but it was this case that went to this decision ,copper notwithstanding.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 10:52 - Jul 30 with 1525 viewsHighjack

If I was ever in prison id probably prefer to be in solitary confinement. Not to blow my own trumpet but I have a sweet ass that would turn any convict scumbags head, and I wouldn't want to get bummed.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 10:54 - Jul 30 with 1523 viewsperchrockjack

I ve heard that too highjack.

Pert apparently.

lol


good stuff and a little levity on a serious suject

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 12:24 - Jul 30 with 1490 viewsDull1Thomas

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:36 - Jul 29 by LeonisGod

Stupid idea. You can see why the Govt want a reform on Human Rights legislation. What about the human rights of the other prisoners who need to be protected from this nutjob? Or do we only worry about those once he's had another go at someone. Seems a step too far for me.


The Tory government wants to abolish the HRA because it ensures it treats the people of the UK equally.

The Human Rights Act is the current legislative law to which covers the treatment of all people including prisoners. Prior to the HRA it would have been UK penal laws.

Don't believe the tosh about 'Magna Carta' as it had nothing to do with protecting 'ordinary people' only a very few barons and some with specific interests (as mentioned in the document).
Without the HRA we should all be nervous of the government of the day.

Nothing to do with bleeding heart liberalism just a healthy distrust of people who seek power and the extent they go to in order to get and keep it.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 14:00 - Jul 30 with 1449 viewsHighjack

The issue with the human rights act that people have is that it appears to protect the 'wrong' people. Case in point the bulger killers, who get to live scot free after what they did, but there are people in jail for sharing alleged photos of them online.

People should have the right to know whether sick child murdering paedophiles are living in their street but the scum are protected.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 15:11 - Jul 30 with 1418 viewsexiledclaseboy

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 14:00 - Jul 30 by Highjack

The issue with the human rights act that people have is that it appears to protect the 'wrong' people. Case in point the bulger killers, who get to live scot free after what they did, but there are people in jail for sharing alleged photos of them online.

People should have the right to know whether sick child murdering paedophiles are living in their street but the scum are protected.


Again, the fact that a court decides that some (very, very few) convicted criminals have their identity protected after they're released has nothing to do with the Human Rights Act.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:13 - Jul 30 with 1379 viewsPacemaker

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 14:00 - Jul 30 by Highjack

The issue with the human rights act that people have is that it appears to protect the 'wrong' people. Case in point the bulger killers, who get to live scot free after what they did, but there are people in jail for sharing alleged photos of them online.

People should have the right to know whether sick child murdering paedophiles are living in their street but the scum are protected.


As abhorrent as the murder of Bulger was the bottom line is that in many countries including here the "culprits" would have been dealt with very differently as they were both legally and morally children themselves .

It was only the fact that public opinion and the media created a big problem for the judiciary and politicians as to what to do with them and how to deal with them after the inevitable conviction.

Can you honestly say that the two convicted chi.dren should have been given an adult punishment for what they did?

What if we still had the death penalty would people have been happy for the two of them to have faced capital punishment?
Adults killing children who kill, where does that leave society?

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:16 - Jul 30 with 1375 viewsexiledclaseboy

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:13 - Jul 30 by Pacemaker

As abhorrent as the murder of Bulger was the bottom line is that in many countries including here the "culprits" would have been dealt with very differently as they were both legally and morally children themselves .

It was only the fact that public opinion and the media created a big problem for the judiciary and politicians as to what to do with them and how to deal with them after the inevitable conviction.

Can you honestly say that the two convicted chi.dren should have been given an adult punishment for what they did?

What if we still had the death penalty would people have been happy for the two of them to have faced capital punishment?
Adults killing children who kill, where does that leave society?


Brave post. Good luck.

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:26 - Jul 30 with 1365 viewsperchrockjack

Yes honestly, pacemaker, without question.

I ll pm you rather than post further

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Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:28 - Jul 30 with 1363 viewsHighjack

Segregated Prisoners.Is this right. on 17:13 - Jul 30 by Pacemaker

As abhorrent as the murder of Bulger was the bottom line is that in many countries including here the "culprits" would have been dealt with very differently as they were both legally and morally children themselves .

It was only the fact that public opinion and the media created a big problem for the judiciary and politicians as to what to do with them and how to deal with them after the inevitable conviction.

Can you honestly say that the two convicted chi.dren should have been given an adult punishment for what they did?

What if we still had the death penalty would people have been happy for the two of them to have faced capital punishment?
Adults killing children who kill, where does that leave society?


Well he's been convicted as an adult for possessing the sickest child images imaginable and then subsequently released on parole, presumably to be given a nice new identity, a clean slate and a comfortable life.

He's being protected,some would go as far as saying rewarded.

Just used this as an example but this one could roll and roll.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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