| The Kingsway Again 16:46 - Aug 4 with 2583 views | jackharris |
Yet another serious incident on the Kingsway with a pedestrian being run over by a bus! |  |
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| The Kingsway Again on 16:50 - Aug 4 with 2554 views | shandyjack |
thought all the metal barriers were to stop people from crossing when they weren't at a proper crossing area.
Surprised at the amount of people who don't use the traffic lights for what they are designed to be for, wait for red llight/green man then cross.
Not that i am saying this person didn't do that as i don't know the facts and i wish that person a speedy recovery |  |
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| The Kingsway Again on 16:54 - Aug 4 with 2536 views | jackharris |
| The Kingsway Again on 16:50 - Aug 4 by shandyjack |
thought all the metal barriers were to stop people from crossing when they weren't at a proper crossing area.
Surprised at the amount of people who don't use the traffic lights for what they are designed to be for, wait for red llight/green man then cross.
Not that i am saying this person didn't do that as i don't know the facts and i wish that person a speedy recovery |
From the photos I have seen it was on a crossing and involves a Bendy Bus! | |
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| The Kingsway Again on 17:07 - Aug 4 with 2512 views | jackharris |
| The Kingsway Again on 16:54 - Aug 4 by jackharris |
From the photos I have seen it was on a crossing and involves a Bendy Bus! |
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| The Kingsway Again on 17:18 - Aug 4 with 2457 views | jackharris |
Once the old Odeon/Oceana,etc site is demolished and built into plush new council offices I wonder if the most dangerous road in Swansea will be made safe? | |
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| The Kingsway Again on 17:43 - Aug 4 with 2408 views | Andy1300 |
| The Kingsway Again on 17:18 - Aug 4 by jackharris |
Once the old Odeon/Oceana,etc site is demolished and built into plush new council offices I wonder if the most dangerous road in Swansea will be made safe? |
it is safe if used correctly |  |
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| The Kingsway Again on 17:59 - Aug 4 with 2371 views | exhmrc1 |
as yet we dont know the full facts so it is too early to make a reasoned judgement. It could be the guy crossed with the green man on and the driver is too blame or it could be the lights were on green and he walked accross in front of the bendy bus. In that case it is the pedestrian and not the bendy bus to blame. The number of times Ihave seen people walking out in front of buses at the oxford street lights is unbelieveable. They are also seen walking accross the bus station manouvering area even though there are signs not to do that. It is far too easy to blame the bendy bus or the road layouts but pedestrians do have their own responsibility to cross carefully. |  | | |
| The Kingsway Again on 18:08 - Aug 4 with 2345 views | Clinton |
For me, you have to wait far too long for the pedestrian lights to change to the green man.
It encourages you to take a chance if you think the road is clear. I know theres a balance between pedestrians and drivers, but the pedestrian gets a raw deal at a lot of crossings in swansea, you can wait for ages at some of them.
(I do drive as well as being a pedestrian and occasional cyclist) |  |
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| The Kingsway Again on 18:09 - Aug 4 with 2337 views | Highjack |
| The Kingsway Again on 17:59 - Aug 4 by exhmrc1 |
as yet we dont know the full facts so it is too early to make a reasoned judgement. It could be the guy crossed with the green man on and the driver is too blame or it could be the lights were on green and he walked accross in front of the bendy bus. In that case it is the pedestrian and not the bendy bus to blame. The number of times Ihave seen people walking out in front of buses at the oxford street lights is unbelieveable. They are also seen walking accross the bus station manouvering area even though there are signs not to do that. It is far too easy to blame the bendy bus or the road layouts but pedestrians do have their own responsibility to cross carefully. |
Stop clogging up the forum with your common sense. |  |
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| The Kingsway Again on 19:15 - Aug 4 with 2221 views | raynor94 |
| The Kingsway Again on 17:43 - Aug 4 by Andy1300 |
it is safe if used correctly |
Even crossing from the pawn shop to the halifax? traffic coming both ways on the Kingsway plus traffic from Craddock street with no warning, yes pedestrians can be to blame, but the layout is a disaster |  |
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| The Kingsway Again on 21:02 - Aug 4 with 2088 views | Starsky |
| The Kingsway Again on 17:43 - Aug 4 by Andy1300 |
it is safe if used correctly |
Well obviously this road had a greater risk of accidents.
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| The Kingsway Again on 21:11 - Aug 4 with 2066 views | LeonisGod |
| The Kingsway Again on 21:02 - Aug 4 by Starsky |
Well obviously this road had a greater risk of accidents.
It's not as simple as you make out |
Indeed. It's counter intuitive, a bit like when you're on the continent and have to remember that the road is cock-eyed. Except here people aren't expecting it. Although people don't help themselves by wandering around with their heads in their phones. ( not saying that was the case here, you just see it a lot) |  | | |
| The Kingsway Again on 22:44 - Aug 4 with 1954 views | Andy1300 |
| The Kingsway Again on 19:15 - Aug 4 by raynor94 |
Even crossing from the pawn shop to the halifax? traffic coming both ways on the Kingsway plus traffic from Craddock street with no warning, yes pedestrians can be to blame, but the layout is a disaster |
Not really that different to crossing the road at most traffic lights on a cross roads, just remember to wait for the green man and still use the green cross code | |
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| The Kingsway Again on 22:46 - Aug 4 with 1948 views | Highjack |
people claiming to be witnesses on the internet reckon the guy was pis sed and stumbled out into the road.
Not a very reliable source but lots are saying it. | |
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| The Kingsway Again on 22:52 - Aug 4 with 1933 views | raynor94 |
| The Kingsway Again on 22:44 - Aug 4 by Andy1300 |
Not really that different to crossing the road at most traffic lights on a cross roads, just remember to wait for the green man and still use the green cross code |
There's no green man on that crossing, so although traffic stops for red on the Kingsway, traffic still comes around from Craddock street, a disaster waiting to happen, just where the policewoman lost her life | |
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| The Kingsway Again on 22:54 - Aug 4 with 1925 views | pikeypaul |
Could well be the case I walk past there daily and more often than not there are drunks/ drug abusers sat in the doorways there. [Post edited 4 Aug 2015 22:55]
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| The Kingsway Again on 23:01 - Aug 4 with 1905 views | Andy1300 |
| The Kingsway Again on 22:52 - Aug 4 by raynor94 |
There's no green man on that crossing, so although traffic stops for red on the Kingsway, traffic still comes around from Craddock street, a disaster waiting to happen, just where the policewoman lost her life |
But the accidents all happen on the bus lane side of the kingsway, and apparently the police woman was saving her daughter who stepped into the path of the bus | |
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| The Kingsway Again on 23:33 - Aug 4 with 1873 views | raynor94 |
| The Kingsway Again on 23:01 - Aug 4 by Andy1300 |
But the accidents all happen on the bus lane side of the kingsway, and apparently the police woman was saving her daughter who stepped into the path of the bus |
Yes, where you have buses travelling in opposite directions at the same time, madness, the soon it's turned back to a normal dual carriageway the better, the council have ruined the city centre, try crossing on the boulevard it takes a lifetime to see a green man! | |
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| The Kingsway Again on 00:41 - Aug 5 with 1824 views | rob |
| The Kingsway Again on 23:33 - Aug 4 by raynor94 |
Yes, where you have buses travelling in opposite directions at the same time, madness, the soon it's turned back to a normal dual carriageway the better, the council have ruined the city centre, try crossing on the boulevard it takes a lifetime to see a green man! |
All the arguments for "people should learn how to cross the road" are folly.
The crossings are dangerous, simple as that. They were dangerous last year, and the year before that. Swansea Council have a lot to account for, |  | | |
| The Kingsway Again on 09:42 - Aug 5 with 1709 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| The Kingsway Again on 00:41 - Aug 5 by rob |
All the arguments for "people should learn how to cross the road" are folly.
The crossings are dangerous, simple as that. They were dangerous last year, and the year before that. Swansea Council have a lot to account for, |
https://www.gov.uk/rules-pedestrians-1-to-35/crossing-the-road-7-to-17
If you follow the rules its highly unlikely any incidents should happen as they cover nearly all eventualities including bus lanes etc
However I do agree with you that its a dangerous set up because of the location and the volume of traffic - used to work there when it was put in and had a few close shaves at first. The sooner the bendy buses go and the roads can be changed again the better |  |
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| The Kingsway Again on 10:33 - Aug 5 with 1664 views | squarebear |
After almost 50 years of being able to cross the road just fine I now find that all of a sudden in just two UK streets (both in Swansea) I've become crap at it.
The first time I made it across West Way I pondered if that was how it felt when one began to suffer the onset of Alzheimer's - when a common or garden activity you've done tens of thousands of times suddenly seems beyond you.
It's a crying shame this project got implemented when it was obvious to the man in the street what the likely consequences would be. [Post edited 5 Aug 2015 10:35]
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| The Kingsway Again on 11:05 - Aug 5 with 1630 views | sherpajacob |
| The Kingsway Again on 22:44 - Aug 4 by Andy1300 |
Not really that different to crossing the road at most traffic lights on a cross roads, just remember to wait for the green man and still use the green cross code |
In theory yes, but in reality can anybody honestly say they have never crossed when the red man is showing and there was no traffic coming.
The layout of the Kingsway leads people to believe there is no traffic coming when in fact there may be a bus coming the other way. |  |
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| The Kingsway Again on 17:35 - Aug 5 with 1486 views | Private_Partz |
| The Kingsway Again on 23:33 - Aug 4 by raynor94 |
Yes, where you have buses travelling in opposite directions at the same time, madness, the soon it's turned back to a normal dual carriageway the better, the council have ruined the city centre, try crossing on the boulevard it takes a lifetime to see a green man! |
The traffic lights on the boulevard are really strange. The pedestrian aspect seems quite dangerous. Apart from the length of time you have to wait you have to stare at a little box down on your right rather than look across the road for the green man to appear. It seems to me that only those at the kerb edge know when it is safe to cross. I could be wrong but there seems no facility to assist the blind or deaf either.
Our answer it seems to to close more underpasses and put all and sundry at the mercy of these things. [Post edited 5 Aug 2015 17:36]
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