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Only we would sell our most talented to relegation rivals Newcastle and only our fans would offer him out, we are DUMB. I'm raving we're in the rele zone :( I did say and everyone gave me sh1t
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The Shelvey Show on 11:38 - Jan 17 with 3926 views
Indeed, it is professionalism and thespians that Kev is talking about and panto only lasts a few months. We are working with young men over a few years here and most of them are not the brightest pennies in the cashbox. Monk actually was playing him well at he start by openly criticising him and challenging him to get back on top of his game. It worked and I believe this is the way good mangers sort it out. Carrots and sticks. Shipping out should be the last option and never to a relegation rival or any rival for that matter.
No he wasn't talking about panto that only lasts a few months because he doesn't just appear in panto.
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You may be right although I think a lot of it has been down to Monk's tinkering and upsetting the patterns of play which have resulted in loss of form right across the board. A good manager will recognise the players that need the carrot and those that need the stick. I doubt this has happened in this guys case. All irrelevant though. It is the selling off of a player, who is capable of turning a club's season around, to a relegation rival that is the madness in my book. Bringing his replacement in is starting to get pretty urgent as well as other sides around us strengthen. I don't buy that they are bringing in crap. We just go not know how they will fare.
His management of Shelvey was probably the best thing Monk did. The run of form he got out of him post bollocking was arguably the highlight of his time here.
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The Shelvey Show on 11:39 - Jan 17 with 3926 views
Indeed, it is professionalism and thespians that Kev is talking about and panto only lasts a few months. We are working with young men over a few years here and most of them are not the brightest pennies in the cashbox. Monk actually was playing him well at he start by openly criticising him and challenging him to get back on top of his game. It worked and I believe this is the way good mangers sort it out. Carrots and sticks. Shipping out should be the last option and never to a relegation rival or any rival for that matter.
And yet when Monk did that he was slagged off right left and centre on here. Some people are just determined to see the negative in everything I guess.
I'm glad Shelvey's f*cked off and I don't care it's to the Geordies, and I don't care that he did a couple of decent passes vesterday that just happened fortuitously to end in the net.
His management of Shelvey was probably the best thing Monk did. The run of form he got out of him post bollocking was arguably the highlight of his time here.
Spot on. I watched the game yesterday. West ham were very poor and gave him all the room he needed. Its was a great pass but premier league players hit them all the time. It was the full backs speed and cross that was class. Shelvey did his normal walk around the pitch pointing at everyone. That wont be shown on motd 😂
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The Shelvey Show on 12:39 - Jan 17 with 3867 views
And yet when Monk did that he was slagged off right left and centre on here. Some people are just determined to see the negative in everything I guess.
I'm glad Shelvey's f*cked off and I don't care it's to the Geordies, and I don't care that he did a couple of decent passes vesterday that just happened fortuitously to end in the net.
Na can't agree Mon. I would sooner have seem him go for less to Palace. He has already helped Newcastle to 2 points and this could prove vital come the end of the season. I suspect he will get them a few more before the alleged Billy Big Balls syndrome kicks in (assuming it does of course).
You have mission in life to hold out your hand,
To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
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The Shelvey Show on 12:50 - Jan 17 with 3847 views
"Only we"!?, load of rubbish, other teams have done it before.
True Geordie only talks sense when Newcastle lose, when they win its over the top delusion behind an annoying smile. Last season before the final day, he was begging Man United for forgiveness after the things he said in the past, then broke into an awful parody of "Mandy"......
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The Shelvey Show on 14:50 - Jan 17 with 3688 views
Na can't agree Mon. I would sooner have seem him go for less to Palace. He has already helped Newcastle to 2 points and this could prove vital come the end of the season. I suspect he will get them a few more before the alleged Billy Big Balls syndrome kicks in (assuming it does of course).
Clearly didn't want to be here and if we needed to sell before we could get reinforcements in, the words beggars and choosers Spring to mind
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The Shelvey Show on 15:38 - Jan 17 with 3641 views
Na can't agree Mon. I would sooner have seem him go for less to Palace. He has already helped Newcastle to 2 points and this could prove vital come the end of the season. I suspect he will get them a few more before the alleged Billy Big Balls syndrome kicks in (assuming it does of course).
As I said earlier. If we hadn't sold him they would have bought someone else anyway. Probably more reliable
Tremendous bit of bumpage. Newcastle can feck right off...have spent £25m+ on players this window and practically to a man, the pundits queuing up this week to masturbate over their new signings and say how they'll stay up and "someone like Swansea" will end up relegated "because they haven't spent enough and sold their best player to Nooooocastle". What a load of ballacks!
Elliot - 8. MOTM again, without him it would have been at least 5-0.
Janmaat - 3. I'm all for my full backs bombing on but it's starting to take the piss now - the bloke just never seems like he's interested in defending. Mbemba - 3. Looked slow and sloppy and seemed incapable of staying with his man. Coloccini - 3. Was like a puppet on a string. Dummett - 2. Pathetic performance, was out of position constantly and just made constant, stupid fouls.
Saivet - 6. Why on earth was he subbed? Easily our best outfield player. Shelvey - 3. Needs to cut out the constant ridiculous Hollywood passes and actually put some effort in. Is he incapable of running?
Sissoko - 2. Shocking. Absolutely shocking. He couldn't have looked less arsed if he'd pitched up a deckchair and had a nap. Wijnaldum - 2. Yet again fails to show up away from home. Townsend - 4. Tried hard but looked rusty and his final ball was severely lacking.
Ayoze - 3. Isolated for large stretches and you could see the frustration boiling over at times. He's not a lone striker, never has been.
Lascelles - 5. Thought he looked ok until he got himself sent off. Idiot. Aarons - 3. Not a LB, never has been a LB, never will be a LB. For the love of God McClaren stop playing him at f***ing left back! Mitrović - 4. Came on. Hustled and bustled. Missed another sitter. Rinse and repeat for next game.
McClaren - 1. This rating of 1 is actually justified as I can rarely remember, even from the Pardew days, a manager getting everything so badly wrong. Should never have started with Ayoze up top on his own, should have had some sort of game plan, shouldn't have put Aarons on at LB, shouldn't have subbed Saivet when he did, should have at least gave Doumbia a chance. At the minute I'm struggling to think of who is the better manager between him and Carver as he has done absolutely nothing whatsoever since getting the job to convince me he in any way capable of managing a Premier League team. If we lose to West Brom on Saturday the axe should fall - £80m worth of talent in 6 months and this is what we're being served up? No thanks.
Tremendous bit of bumpage. Newcastle can feck right off...have spent £25m+ on players this window and practically to a man, the pundits queuing up this week to masturbate over their new signings and say how they'll stay up and "someone like Swansea" will end up relegated "because they haven't spent enough and sold their best player to Nooooocastle". What a load of ballacks!
More like 40M.
They appear to have a severe case of Cardiffcityitis. Entitled beyond belief. F*ck them.
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They appear to have a severe case of Cardiffcityitis. Entitled beyond belief. F*ck them.
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Indeed the arrogance is incredible. Always been their problem I think. massive support and expectations are so high they eventually eff up who'ever is in charge. I have to say I am surprised that Shelvey's Billy Big Balls syndrome has kicked in after just one match. I hope it stays that way until the season end. McClaren has a huge job sorting his head out.
You have mission in life to hold out your hand,
To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
Stan Ridgway
Indeed the arrogance is incredible. Always been their problem I think. massive support and expectations are so high they eventually eff up who'ever is in charge. I have to say I am surprised that Shelvey's Billy Big Balls syndrome has kicked in after just one match. I hope it stays that way until the season end. McClaren has a huge job sorting his head out.
Literally as I'm reading this whilst watching the highlights on Sky, the commentator says "....and there's another mistake by Shelvery...that's 3 or 4 passes in quick succession gone astray. He's in the team for his passing, normally so assured but really struggling here."
In hindsight it may have been a blessing Shelvey had a good first game against West Ham,after that he seems to think he is above his team mates with his constant pointing and shouting,it will not be long before his team mates get Ped off with him.
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In hindsight it may have been a blessing Shelvey had a good first game against West Ham,after that he seems to think he is above his team mates with his constant pointing and shouting,it will not be long before his team mates get Ped off with him.
Since my lost post the highlights have continued on SS1 and Shelvey has contrived to clog someone, head against his own bar (would have been an o.g. but for a great save) , clog someone else and get booked and generally have a shocker.
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And more from last night's match. This reply and the thread it's answering sums him up for me. We all knew he wouldn't change. He can be a match winner on his day, but.......
Edit - i've pasted the wuotes i was talking about below in case you can't be bothered to cluck the link. Sums up Jonjo's time at Liverpool and with us i reckon.
"This. Saivet was passing the ball far better than Shelvey was. I was speaking to a Liverpool fan about him at the weekend who said that he has got bags of ability but he is always trying to play the Hollywood pass when sometimes there's an easier ball on. McClaren manages like a kid playing FM who leaves all the players on " he thinks will always score a goal " if that makes sense?"
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"Yeah that sounds about right. Shelvey knows he can play that ball so doesn't bother working off the ball either. His pointing and moaning instead of working was disgraceful. If he doesn't up the work rate he'll have the majority turn on him by the summer."
I'm glad he's someone elses problem / enigma now. Good business by Huw again
Since my lost post the highlights have continued on SS1 and Shelvey has contrived to clog someone, head against his own bar (would have been an o.g. but for a great save) , clog someone else and get booked and generally have a shocker.
Meanwhile little ol Leon who's place he often took keeps going like clockwork... I know Leon's not the solution to all our problems, but I know who I'd rather have alongside me In a relegation scrap.