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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 15:05 - May 3 by nice_to_michu
Yay, it's about time you said "donkey voters" in a post, you hadn't mentioned it for a day or so.
If only I and others were as enlightened as you.
You mean the people who vote for Labour in local elections because you think that the Westminster elections are more important? Or the people who seem oblivious to the vastly disproportionate distribution of investment and just regurgitate the propaganda disseminated by the Welsh Government, helping them become a one-party state?
Swansea is renown for being politically apathetic (lowest voter turnout). We're a beaten dog who keeps going back for more. The North are turning against Labour, as are, surprisingly, the south east. It's only people like you who vote for them, and you've not given a good reason for it besides believing it'll help Wales in Westminster. You also seem to mistakenly believe that you're supporting a left-wing party, when the Lib Dems and Plaid are both further left than Labour - a party which has successfully turned its capital city into the 7th richest city in the UK, and still centralises all investment there.
You've no answer to all the articles illustrating how much they spend there and funny enough, you never post any articles highlighting good things they've done in Swansea (unless you want to remind us of the museum like the party you clearly do badly admire).
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 12:05 - Apr 30 by nice_to_michu
Another classy post.
Just curious, exactly which policy of hers to you like so much? I'm referring to a policy that directly helps Swansea, the area you say is so neglected. Which policy do you see and think, "yeh, that sounds good to me"?
Well just fair funding for Wales alone would deliver another £1.2 billion per year for Wales. And scrapping Trident some £160 billion for the UK govt to use on useful things.
See Plaid puts the needs to Wales first, the others are branch offices from London unionist parties. Whats right for Wales is just a small consideration for them.
Hope that helps some ?
Beware of the Risen People
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 16:37 - May 3 with 1604 views
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 15:23 - May 3 by CopperJack
You mean the people who vote for Labour in local elections because you think that the Westminster elections are more important? Or the people who seem oblivious to the vastly disproportionate distribution of investment and just regurgitate the propaganda disseminated by the Welsh Government, helping them become a one-party state?
Swansea is renown for being politically apathetic (lowest voter turnout). We're a beaten dog who keeps going back for more. The North are turning against Labour, as are, surprisingly, the south east. It's only people like you who vote for them, and you've not given a good reason for it besides believing it'll help Wales in Westminster. You also seem to mistakenly believe that you're supporting a left-wing party, when the Lib Dems and Plaid are both further left than Labour - a party which has successfully turned its capital city into the 7th richest city in the UK, and still centralises all investment there.
You've no answer to all the articles illustrating how much they spend there and funny enough, you never post any articles highlighting good things they've done in Swansea (unless you want to remind us of the museum like the party you clearly do badly admire).
"You mean the people who vote for Labour in local elections because you think that the Westminster elections"
- you say that as if that is untrue or a bad reason. The huge amount of far more important powers in Westminster is a very good reason to stand by a party in local elections.
Plaid and the Lib Dens are left of Labour? Ah yes, that old chestnut. Can you name one specific left of Labour Plaid policy? I would suggest you don't mention the NHS, their big idea is to make "savings", how socialist. The M4 relief road would've gone ahead regardless so exactly which policies are left of Labour? Plaid want to spread investment you say? Cool. Where? What policy?
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 16:48 - May 3 with 1594 views
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 16:33 - May 3 by Kilkennyjack
Well just fair funding for Wales alone would deliver another £1.2 billion per year for Wales. And scrapping Trident some £160 billion for the UK govt to use on useful things.
See Plaid puts the needs to Wales first, the others are branch offices from London unionist parties. Whats right for Wales is just a small consideration for them.
Hope that helps some ?
I'm not particularly involved as I can't vote of course, but both those things are utterly undeliverable from Plaid's perspective. So as reasons to vote for them go, they don't stand up.
The reasons to vote for them or any other party in the Welsh Government elections must surely be policies that are under the control of the Welsh Goevrnment. Otherwise it's just rhetoric that means nothing. Different matter when voting for the Westminster government.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 17:09 - May 3 with 1574 views
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 16:33 - May 3 by Kilkennyjack
Well just fair funding for Wales alone would deliver another £1.2 billion per year for Wales. And scrapping Trident some £160 billion for the UK govt to use on useful things.
See Plaid puts the needs to Wales first, the others are branch offices from London unionist parties. Whats right for Wales is just a small consideration for them.
Hope that helps some ?
Corbyn wants to scrap trident. Carwyn Jones wants the Barnett formula to be scrapped.
So tell me how that is different from Plaid on those issues?
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 17:31 - May 3 with 1562 views
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 14:19 - May 3 by CopperJack
Really? What does it say? Good, it's about time people highlighted this. I doubt it'll be enough to stop the Uncle Tom Donkey voters who vote them in because they're not the Conservatives, but we can hope.
The leaflet has a letter-head-title 'Lyndon Jones Welsh Conservative Candidate For Gower And North Swansea' and has a simple design, its presented as a hand written letter with hand-written text.
Here is the bit of interest:
Dear Resident
I believe that Labour's Assembly Government is obsessed with Cardiff and since devolution began in 1999, millions of pounds have been spent in Cardiff, but under Labour Swansea and Gower have been completely neglected and forgotten about and I’m running in this election because I want to change that, I want to fight for a better deal for the community I live and grew up in.
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Argus!
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 20:02 - May 3 with 1523 views
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 20:02 - May 3 by exiledclaseboy
So the campaign is nearly over. I wonder how many realise that it ever began.
I am gutted. I moved last summer and amongst all the bumph one has to deal with I forgot to send back my details. Too late to vote on Thursday although the lady in County Hall did say I should be in time to vote out.
POSTER OF THE YEAR 2013.
PROUD RECIPIENT OF THE SECOND PLANET SWANS LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 12:49 - May 3 by Wingstandwood
The Tories have obviously cottoned on to the fact that the Cardiff bias issue has not gone unnoticed by the Swansea/SW Wales public! They must see it as both a major vote loser for Labour and a vote winner for them?
I had a flyer-leaflet delivered this morning from Gower's Conservative candidate and he has placed the issue right at the top of his campaign leaflet. That's how complacent, deluded, arrogant and out of touch Labour are now i.e. gifting The Tories both anti-Labour propaganda and votes. I'll repeat it again Labour are in for an abysmal result come election time!
And what have the Tories promised to address the balance? Nothing! Not that I'd believe anything the Tories say in Gower, especially the slipperiest and dodgiest candidate the Tories have ever had in Lyndon Jones. He claims to be a local campaigner but like Byron, I suspect he'll say anything to get elected. Anyway, I've heard some interesting stories regarding him and Belgium from friends on the peninsular.
If anything I'd imagine the centralisation of Cardiff would get worse under the conservatives. They haven't outlined a single policy to help the issue, much like when they didn't tell us where the austerity was going to hit before last May. A colleague of mine (typically a Green, former Conservative voter in Bishopston) emailed Byron Davies last year asking if he'd oppose fracking in Gower and he said that he would. She voted for him as he was responsive and had done a lot of work as an assembly member. She was mortified when he voted in favour of fracking and gasification at the first opportunity in Parliament.
Our best hope is some sort of Labour/Plaid/Lib/Green coalition. Basically anything that doesn't involve UKIP whose candidates offer nothing for Wales. Neil Hamilton wrote and sung a bloody world cup football song FFS.
The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason.
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 21:31 - May 3 by Badgeman
And what have the Tories promised to address the balance? Nothing! Not that I'd believe anything the Tories say in Gower, especially the slipperiest and dodgiest candidate the Tories have ever had in Lyndon Jones. He claims to be a local campaigner but like Byron, I suspect he'll say anything to get elected. Anyway, I've heard some interesting stories regarding him and Belgium from friends on the peninsular.
If anything I'd imagine the centralisation of Cardiff would get worse under the conservatives. They haven't outlined a single policy to help the issue, much like when they didn't tell us where the austerity was going to hit before last May. A colleague of mine (typically a Green, former Conservative voter in Bishopston) emailed Byron Davies last year asking if he'd oppose fracking in Gower and he said that he would. She voted for him as he was responsive and had done a lot of work as an assembly member. She was mortified when he voted in favour of fracking and gasification at the first opportunity in Parliament.
Our best hope is some sort of Labour/Plaid/Lib/Green coalition. Basically anything that doesn't involve UKIP whose candidates offer nothing for Wales. Neil Hamilton wrote and sung a bloody world cup football song FFS.
My opinion is Labour and the Tories would indeed both carry on with the Cardiff bias e.g. Tory Thatcherite boy Nicholas Edwards also wanted/campaigned for an opera house to be built in the Bay.
A hard bargaining 'pain-in-the-arse' coalition party that favours equality, fairness and a moralistic distribution of the WAG's spending budget for of the rest of Wales would be welcome. There would be no point having a Tory making a lot of noise only to be then repeatedly ignored by is party
Argus!
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 04:36 - May 4 with 1438 views
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 16:48 - May 3 by londonlisa2001
I'm not particularly involved as I can't vote of course, but both those things are utterly undeliverable from Plaid's perspective. So as reasons to vote for them go, they don't stand up.
The reasons to vote for them or any other party in the Welsh Government elections must surely be policies that are under the control of the Welsh Goevrnment. Otherwise it's just rhetoric that means nothing. Different matter when voting for the Westminster government.
But thats a bit like saying simply vote for the party thats most likely to win - whoever that might be - and then campaign from within for the change you believe in.
Most people find one party is more in line with their own beliefs and votes for it. You accept that party might not win but even then opposition parties can add pressure, force amendments, and influence outcomes. Its pure politics rather than anything tactical.
Having somebody batting for wales and good outcomes for wales matters. Unless we accept the low position of wales in every measure of wealth as being somehow inevitable. The maybe we deserve it mentality ...?
Beware of the Risen People
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 08:55 - May 4 with 1415 views
Lets be honest, the chances are Labour will win all Swansea seats and we'll continue to be neglected.
But, wouldn't it be amazing if we voted them out just once? Made them work for their vote next time. They always find money for white elephant projects in Cardiff, like the new one to demolish and rebuilt their newest 'capital' project.
Nice_to_michu will defend these projects because he's determined to maintain the status quo, but the status quo has relegated Swansea to a second-class city, with falling house prices (1 of 4 cities in the UK with that 'accolade'), one of the lowest rates of home ownership in Wales and one of the highest rates of children in jobless households.
Since devolution, was has regressed to the bottom of almost every European-wide league table on matters like education and our health service is a shambles.
What do we actually have to lose by trying something else? Wales has become a one-party state, with one of the longest serving democratic governments in the western world. I'm not saying necessarily vote Plaid, but just don't vote Labour.
They've delivered twenty years of unprecedented growth for Cardiff turning it into the SEVENTH wealthiest place in the UK and yet Welsh Labour still spend their money giving grants to companies to start up in Cardiff, rather than other places which are badly in need of these high-paying, quality jobs.
If we vote Labour in again, then just like all our regeneration plans since devolution, our city centre plans and City Deal will fail to materialise in favour of more mass investment into Cardiff.
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 08:55 - May 4 by CopperJack
Lets be honest, the chances are Labour will win all Swansea seats and we'll continue to be neglected.
But, wouldn't it be amazing if we voted them out just once? Made them work for their vote next time. They always find money for white elephant projects in Cardiff, like the new one to demolish and rebuilt their newest 'capital' project.
Nice_to_michu will defend these projects because he's determined to maintain the status quo, but the status quo has relegated Swansea to a second-class city, with falling house prices (1 of 4 cities in the UK with that 'accolade'), one of the lowest rates of home ownership in Wales and one of the highest rates of children in jobless households.
Since devolution, was has regressed to the bottom of almost every European-wide league table on matters like education and our health service is a shambles.
What do we actually have to lose by trying something else? Wales has become a one-party state, with one of the longest serving democratic governments in the western world. I'm not saying necessarily vote Plaid, but just don't vote Labour.
They've delivered twenty years of unprecedented growth for Cardiff turning it into the SEVENTH wealthiest place in the UK and yet Welsh Labour still spend their money giving grants to companies to start up in Cardiff, rather than other places which are badly in need of these high-paying, quality jobs.
If we vote Labour in again, then just like all our regeneration plans since devolution, our city centre plans and City Deal will fail to materialise in favour of more mass investment into Cardiff.
Good luck to all those voting for change.
Well said
I've not seen one Labour candidate on the streets . I've had more Tory leaflets through my door .
They need to get their act together , they won't be getting my vote.
There is only two choices, Plaid - left of centre, social justice, anti austerity or Red,Blue,Yellow or Purple Tories who are all right of centre, neo liberal, austerity parties.
Vote Plaid to get positive change or vote Labour, Conservative, Lib-Dem or UKIP and get more of the same. Its that simple really.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 22:04 - May 3 by Wingstandwood
My opinion is Labour and the Tories would indeed both carry on with the Cardiff bias e.g. Tory Thatcherite boy Nicholas Edwards also wanted/campaigned for an opera house to be built in the Bay.
A hard bargaining 'pain-in-the-arse' coalition party that favours equality, fairness and a moralistic distribution of the WAG's spending budget for of the rest of Wales would be welcome. There would be no point having a Tory making a lot of noise only to be then repeatedly ignored by is party
Tories don't rebel on their own. It rarely happens. You get people like Alun Cairnes and Byron Davies who have a rebel rate of 1% in parliament.
The Gower tory candidate is an contemptuous character of the highest order. He's a career political staffer who has never lifted a finger in the real world.He got an MBE in the queens honours list for "political services" FFS. And people think he's a strong local campaigner! F**k my eyes!
I'd be interested to pick up on badgemans rumours, PM sent.
I'm of the opinion that any coalition partner should be "hard to please" so I agree with you on that and will continue to do so.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 09:48 - May 4 with 1402 views
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 09:46 - May 4 by trampie
There is only two choices, Plaid - left of centre, social justice, anti austerity or Red,Blue,Yellow or Purple Tories who are all right of centre, neo liberal, austerity parties.
Vote Plaid to get positive change or vote Labour, Conservative, Lib-Dem or UKIP and get more of the same. Its that simple really.
It's really not that simple is it? For a start, Plaid want "efficiency savings" in the NHS. It might be a good thing or even necessary but call it what it is and its austerity dressed up.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 09:53 - May 4 with 1392 views
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 09:38 - May 4 by acejack3065
Out of interest where do you live?
One day to go and here is my election prediction: Copperjack is a shy Tory!
I'm really not. at the GE, I'll be voting Lib Dem. At Welsh elections, I'll be voting Plaid, solely because I think they have the best chance of de-throning Labour.
We need change. Unless you want another 5 years of billions of pounds being spent in Cardiff and us not getting a thing, then vote for someone else. Anyone else. They need to work for our vote and stop treating us with contempt. Maybe then they'll start treating us like a second city like England does with Birmingham and Scotland does with Glasgow. They get investment and government jobs (things like BBC). We get ours closed down and centralised in Cardiff. Vote for change and a better future for Swansea so we can finally stop being so economically woeful.
The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 09:48 - May 4 by acejack3065
It's really not that simple is it? For a start, Plaid want "efficiency savings" in the NHS. It might be a good thing or even necessary but call it what it is and its austerity dressed up.
I heard that is because Plaid want an extra 1000 doctors and 5000 nurses to cut waiting times.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 09:56 - May 4 by trampie
I heard that is because Plaid want an extra 1000 doctors and 5000 nurses to cut waiting times.
Just 1,000?
Why not 10,000? Or 100,000?
It's not like Plaid actually care about accuracy. (Cue the inevitable "Plaid manifesto is fully costed" from Trampie. Yes, it is, it is fully costed by its own commission).
Efficiency savings is an odd way to create 1,000 more doctors.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 11:03 - May 4 with 1353 views
We need lots more doctors and nurses to service our 3 million people population in Wales, Plaid would take steps to ensure that, but I doubt we need [or could afford] 100,000 extra doctors. lol .
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Hoping they can sneek second place in the final analysis but the polls have it really close for second between Plaid and the Conservatives, would not be surprised if the Blue Tories take second as shy Conservatives apparently often don't like to admit that they vote Conservative.
Best result for Plaid would be to scrape second with Labour not only short of a majority but Labour and the Lib-Dems combined short of a majority.
If Plaid achieve second I expect Leanne Wood to stay as leader, if not it might well be a case of step forward Mr Adam Price [although there would be other candidates with a claim].
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