| The answer is under our nose 09:18 - May 4 with 3466 views | cockneyswan |
Leicester city have shown the football world what can be achieved on a small budget and average players (a la Swansea City ) with the right manager.
I'm not saying Francesco Guidolin will deliver the premier league ( that's a once in a lifetime miracle), however I do think appointing Rodgers at the expense of guido would be an enormous faux pas (fu*k up). Chelsea rejected Ranieri, I just hope in years to come were not saying why did we let Fankie go? |  | | |  |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:22 - May 4 with 2285 views | ItchySphincter |
There's an exception to every rule. It was the footballing equivalent of a fluke aided by a crappy league. Don't get used to it. |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 09:24 - May 4 with 2273 views | Darran |
Ooh a Brodge V Frankie thread just what we need. |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 09:28 - May 4 with 2259 views | cockneyswan |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:22 - May 4 by ItchySphincter |
There's an exception to every rule. It was the footballing equivalent of a fluke aided by a crappy league. Don't get used to it. |
As I said, once in a lifetime miracle! However Southampton , Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, et al. All punching above their weights. All got good managers not star players. | | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:29 - May 4 with 2246 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:28 - May 4 by cockneyswan |
As I said, once in a lifetime miracle! However Southampton , Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, et al. All punching above their weights. All got good managers not star players. |
Bournemouth have been naughty |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 09:30 - May 4 with 2239 views | cockneyswan |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:24 - May 4 by Darran |
Ooh a Brodge V Frankie thread just what we need. |
Fu*k off | | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:33 - May 4 with 2229 views | Darran |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:30 - May 4 by cockneyswan |
Fu*k off |
Great idea for a thread though I'm surprised nobody else thought of it. | |
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| The answer is under our nose on 09:40 - May 4 with 2190 views | waynekerr55 |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:33 - May 4 by Darran |
Great idea for a thread though I'm surprised nobody else thought of it. |
What about a Brodge V Guido V Laudrup triple threat match?
Hell in the cell? |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 09:49 - May 4 with 2160 views | cockneyswan |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:33 - May 4 by Darran |
Great idea for a thread though I'm surprised nobody else thought of it. |
As a manure supporter I didn't expect u to be interested. Why don't you just fu*k off back to the Red Devils board! | | | |
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| The answer is under our nose on 09:55 - May 4 with 2142 views | jack247 |
I think 'If Leicester can do it, why can't we?' type discussions are going to become pretty commonplace on message boards, in pubs etc across the country for the next couple of seasons. |  | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:06 - May 4 with 2115 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:55 - May 4 by jack247 |
I think 'If Leicester can do it, why can't we?' type discussions are going to become pretty commonplace on message boards, in pubs etc across the country for the next couple of seasons. |
People laughed on here when some of us had the temerity to look to improve on 8th position!
I wonder if those will be the very ones discussing it lol |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 10:08 - May 4 with 2111 views | Dr_Winston |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:28 - May 4 by cockneyswan |
As I said, once in a lifetime miracle! However Southampton , Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, et al. All punching above their weights. All got good managers not star players. |
We used to do it until fairly recently. |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 10:17 - May 4 with 2079 views | jack247 |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:06 - May 4 by Brynmill_Jack |
People laughed on here when some of us had the temerity to look to improve on 8th position!
I wonder if those will be the very ones discussing it lol |
Almost certainly | | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:41 - May 4 with 2026 views | DafyddHuw |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:28 - May 4 by cockneyswan |
As I said, once in a lifetime miracle! However Southampton , Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, et al. All punching above their weights. All got good managers not star players. |
We're punching above our weight too, and have been for the last 6 years. |  | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:45 - May 4 with 2023 views | 1983 |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:41 - May 4 by DafyddHuw |
We're punching above our weight too, and have been for the last 6 years. |
Bit of sense right there |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 10:58 - May 4 with 1993 views | jack247 |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:41 - May 4 by DafyddHuw |
We're punching above our weight too, and have been for the last 6 years. |
I'd say we were punching above our weight, but have now moved up a few weight classes. As much as I'm bound to hear loads of people comparing us to Leicester and eventually get irritated by it, I don't think we are punching above our weight just by being in the PL anymore. | | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:59 - May 4 with 1994 views | Clinton |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:28 - May 4 by cockneyswan |
As I said, once in a lifetime miracle! However Southampton , Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, et al. All punching above their weights. All got good managers not star players. |
You have to look at the money that's been poured into these clubs too.
Southampton, the Liebherr fortune
Stoke, the Coates family and Bet365
Watford, the Italian guy and his consortium have put money in. Also they aren't doing brilliant and they have had several managers in the last couple off years.
Bournemouth, they have some oligarch stuck about 100 million in haven't they ? |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 11:09 - May 4 with 1968 views | Loyal |
| The answer is under our nose on 09:29 - May 4 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Bournemouth have been naughty |
Comparing their rise to success to ours !
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| The answer is under our nose on 11:48 - May 4 with 1907 views | Lord_Bony |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:58 - May 4 by jack247 |
I'd say we were punching above our weight, but have now moved up a few weight classes. As much as I'm bound to hear loads of people comparing us to Leicester and eventually get irritated by it, I don't think we are punching above our weight just by being in the PL anymore. |
6th campaign coming up we re not punching above our weight...many see us as an established mid table premier league club...we re part of the furniture now. We always come good in the end!
We ve still got all the right cards in our hand to push higher up if we are ever lucky enough to have the right combination of team and manager working together.
We have learned our lessons from the early eighties meteoric rise and fall. |  |
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| The answer is under our nose on 11:52 - May 4 with 1895 views | jasper_T |
I agree that we need to copy Leicester and overhaul our medical department asap. | | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 12:22 - May 4 with 1828 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:58 - May 4 by jack247 |
I'd say we were punching above our weight, but have now moved up a few weight classes. As much as I'm bound to hear loads of people comparing us to Leicester and eventually get irritated by it, I don't think we are punching above our weight just by being in the PL anymore. |
Good post. The club is not the same entity as it was in it's first PL season, no matter what image the BYHOFS seem to want to cling on to.
The major disappointment for me is that we have become a bit lazy, i.e. whereas we scouted and got tremendous players for next to nothing prices (much in the same way as Leicester have done) we broke up a good squad , had a very good season under Monk and now we can truly see ho far we've lagged behind. And it won't be an overnight fix. We've virtually got to start all over again.
Laudrup, if he wasn't sacked would have gone at the end of his second season here- would be a fair assumption, given his itchy feet syndrome. So not to do with ML completely but we needed (as we do now) a manager who could find the same kind of bargain players and mould them into a good team.
Instead we broke with that policy and spent an awful lot on players contracts, which in itself will cause dissatisfaction among players and Gomis han't really done that great under this system. Ayew has done very well but may not fit our traditional wingman prototype.
Under FG we have a new opportunity to revive that ethos, he's a good , modest man who I think has shown his dedication and commitment to the club. Brodge will not have the contacts to get players cheaply like FG would. I also don't like the stepping back in time mentality that his appointment would confirm either.
It all seems academic though, the board are weary and can't put the effort in, the lazy appointment would be Rodgers to sell to the footballing worldy unwise Americans. They have no enthusiasm anymore, perhaps it's best they did move on. But at least sell us to someone with the hunger for success and not just a quick buck. | |
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| The answer is under our nose on 12:59 - May 4 with 1750 views | cockneyswan |
| The answer is under our nose on 10:59 - May 4 by Clinton |
You have to look at the money that's been poured into these clubs too.
Southampton, the Liebherr fortune
Stoke, the Coates family and Bet365
Watford, the Italian guy and his consortium have put money in. Also they aren't doing brilliant and they have had several managers in the last couple off years.
Bournemouth, they have some oligarch stuck about 100 million in haven't they ? |
Southampton Stoke bournmuff and Leicester have got rich owners but I don't think any have really outspent us by much? I stand to be corrected. | | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 13:00 - May 4 with 1748 views | cockneyswan |
| The answer is under our nose on 12:22 - May 4 by Brynmill_Jack |
Good post. The club is not the same entity as it was in it's first PL season, no matter what image the BYHOFS seem to want to cling on to.
The major disappointment for me is that we have become a bit lazy, i.e. whereas we scouted and got tremendous players for next to nothing prices (much in the same way as Leicester have done) we broke up a good squad , had a very good season under Monk and now we can truly see ho far we've lagged behind. And it won't be an overnight fix. We've virtually got to start all over again.
Laudrup, if he wasn't sacked would have gone at the end of his second season here- would be a fair assumption, given his itchy feet syndrome. So not to do with ML completely but we needed (as we do now) a manager who could find the same kind of bargain players and mould them into a good team.
Instead we broke with that policy and spent an awful lot on players contracts, which in itself will cause dissatisfaction among players and Gomis han't really done that great under this system. Ayew has done very well but may not fit our traditional wingman prototype.
Under FG we have a new opportunity to revive that ethos, he's a good , modest man who I think has shown his dedication and commitment to the club. Brodge will not have the contacts to get players cheaply like FG would. I also don't like the stepping back in time mentality that his appointment would confirm either.
It all seems academic though, the board are weary and can't put the effort in, the lazy appointment would be Rodgers to sell to the footballing worldy unwise Americans. They have no enthusiasm anymore, perhaps it's best they did move on. But at least sell us to someone with the hunger for success and not just a quick buck. |
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| The answer is under our nose on 13:18 - May 4 with 1707 views | Clinton |
| The answer is under our nose on 12:59 - May 4 by cockneyswan |
Southampton Stoke bournmuff and Leicester have got rich owners but I don't think any have really outspent us by much? I stand to be corrected. |
Fair point, they aren't the biggest spenders. | |
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| The answer is under our nose on 13:24 - May 4 with 1684 views | dobjack2 |
| The answer is under our nose on 12:22 - May 4 by Brynmill_Jack |
Good post. The club is not the same entity as it was in it's first PL season, no matter what image the BYHOFS seem to want to cling on to.
The major disappointment for me is that we have become a bit lazy, i.e. whereas we scouted and got tremendous players for next to nothing prices (much in the same way as Leicester have done) we broke up a good squad , had a very good season under Monk and now we can truly see ho far we've lagged behind. And it won't be an overnight fix. We've virtually got to start all over again.
Laudrup, if he wasn't sacked would have gone at the end of his second season here- would be a fair assumption, given his itchy feet syndrome. So not to do with ML completely but we needed (as we do now) a manager who could find the same kind of bargain players and mould them into a good team.
Instead we broke with that policy and spent an awful lot on players contracts, which in itself will cause dissatisfaction among players and Gomis han't really done that great under this system. Ayew has done very well but may not fit our traditional wingman prototype.
Under FG we have a new opportunity to revive that ethos, he's a good , modest man who I think has shown his dedication and commitment to the club. Brodge will not have the contacts to get players cheaply like FG would. I also don't like the stepping back in time mentality that his appointment would confirm either.
It all seems academic though, the board are weary and can't put the effort in, the lazy appointment would be Rodgers to sell to the footballing worldy unwise Americans. They have no enthusiasm anymore, perhaps it's best they did move on. But at least sell us to someone with the hunger for success and not just a quick buck. |
Agree with much of this. Our scouting has got lazy and a bit too clever for its own good because we are moving to the "next level" bullshirt.
Leicester have shown that there are players out there that do not cost the earth in transfer fees/signing on fees and stupid wages. They also showed that a manager and his tactics can produce a team that is better than the sum of its parts.
Will Vardy, Mahrez and Kante have seasons like that again? Possibly
Will they have so few injuries- unlikely
Will they get so many penalties and concede so few unlikely.
But will they have the same team work ethic that served us so well previously - whilst ranieri is there almost certainly.
The things to learn from Leicester are things that we knew but have forgotten we knew - to me these things were the real Swansea way.
Smart recruitment, having a style of play that gets the best out of the players (see also smart recruitment) and working hard as a team so that we could beat opposition that man for man on paper were often more talented than us. | | | |
| The answer is under our nose on 13:27 - May 4 with 1678 views | jack247 |
| The answer is under our nose on 12:59 - May 4 by cockneyswan |
Southampton Stoke bournmuff and Leicester have got rich owners but I don't think any have really outspent us by much? I stand to be corrected. |
I think Southampton invested massively in youth development years ago and have seen the benefits of that lately. I don't think they have spent that heavily on transfers though, especially compared to what they bring in. Stoke must be paying through the nose for the likes of Bojan and Shaquiri, but I suppose we are for Gomis and Ayew. Not sure about the others, but they don't seem to have thrown blank cheques at it. Breaking FFP in the Championship is on a different scale to spending heavily as a PL club. | | | |
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