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What kind of person does this? 14:42 - May 30 with 11546 viewsDarran

Staggering,he's been arrested now.
Why? Just why?

http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/30/man-who-wore-offensive-hillsborough-t-shirt-arrest



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What kind of person does this? on 18:05 - May 30 with 1727 viewsCooperman

What kind of person does this? on 17:22 - May 30 by blueytheblue

Threatening, no.

Abusive, possibly.

Insulting, yes.

Likely to cause harassment? no. Alarm? Eh... Distress? Possibly.


Possibly causing distress? Try looking at it through the eyes of one of the relatives or even the general Liverpudlian.

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What kind of person does this? on 18:05 - May 30 with 1727 viewsexiledclaseboy

What kind of person does this? on 18:00 - May 30 by somersetsimon

The message in his shirt is certainly insulting, but how do you actually prove that you have been harassed, alarmed or distressed?


You don't have to, that's why the words "likely to.." are in there.

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What kind of person does this? on 18:09 - May 30 with 1716 viewsblueytheblue

What kind of person does this? on 18:05 - May 30 by Cooperman

Possibly causing distress? Try looking at it through the eyes of one of the relatives or even the general Liverpudlian.


And how many were likely to be present at that pub?

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What kind of person does this? on 18:12 - May 30 with 1709 viewsCooperman

What kind of person does this? on 18:09 - May 30 by blueytheblue

And how many were likely to be present at that pub?


It only needed one.

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What kind of person does this? on 18:13 - May 30 with 1705 viewsexiledclaseboy

What kind of person does this? on 18:12 - May 30 by Cooperman

It only needed one.


Didn't need any relatives or scousers to be there.

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What kind of person does this? on 18:15 - May 30 with 1699 viewsCooperman

What kind of person does this? on 18:13 - May 30 by exiledclaseboy

Didn't need any relatives or scousers to be there.


Exactly.

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What kind of person does this? on 18:41 - May 30 with 1639 viewsJackfath

What kind of person does this? on 18:02 - May 30 by Starsky

Surely it's likely to cause a breach of the peace?


I'm not sure the CPS would want to prosecute a t-shirt

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What kind of person does this? on 19:05 - May 30 with 1587 viewsLoyal

What kind of person does this? on 16:29 - May 30 by controversial_jack

It has been removed from the public order act, I just checked.


Honestly he wouldn't have been charged if there was no offence.
You have to prove harassment alarm and distress with a cover all as discussed.

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What kind of person does this? on 19:07 - May 30 with 1584 viewsLoyal

What kind of person does this? on 18:15 - May 30 by Cooperman

Exactly.


No it's any person who is caused Harrasment alarm or distress.
That's even a copper.

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What kind of person does this? on 19:07 - May 30 with 1582 viewsLoyal

What kind of person does this? on 18:12 - May 30 by Cooperman

It only needed one.


3 for violent disorder
12 for riot.

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What kind of person does this? on 19:13 - May 30 with 1556 viewsdickythorpe

As powder puff as my punches might be I'd have asked him what the feck was his problem?
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What kind of person does this? on 19:16 - May 30 with 1547 viewsStarsky

What kind of person does this? on 18:41 - May 30 by Jackfath

I'm not sure the CPS would want to prosecute a t-shirt


Maybe the person inside it

It's just the internet, init.

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What kind of person does this? on 19:18 - May 30 with 1540 viewsJackfath

What kind of person does this? on 19:16 - May 30 by Starsky

Maybe the person inside it


Oh right. Sorry I didn't understand.

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What kind of person does this? on 19:33 - May 30 with 1515 viewsLoyal

What kind of person does this? on 16:29 - May 30 by controversial_jack

It has been removed from the public order act, I just checked.


Quote -

Kevin Purcell, of West Mercia Police, said: "I understand the alarm and distress the offensive language shown on this T-shirt will have caused to both the people in and around the pub and further afield."

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What kind of person does this? on 20:24 - May 30 with 1426 viewsmorningstar

What kind of person does this? on 18:15 - May 30 by Cooperman

Exactly.


Indeed the landlord of the pub who actually barred him from the premises has stated that he has caused alarm and distress to him and his family. We all look at pubs as somewhere we can go and have a good time, but in a lot of cases, it's actually someones home.

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What kind of person does this? on 20:26 - May 30 with 1373 viewsGixerJack

What kind of person does this? on 16:53 - May 30 by morningstar

Ooh, good on you, you should get yourself a position on the the other site as one of their legal bots!

Meanwhile, this is what he's been charged with.

5 Harassment, alarm or distress.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if he–

(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.
(2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the other person is also inside that or another dwelling.

(3)It is a defence for the accused to prove–

(a)that he had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress, or

(b)that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or

(c)that his conduct was reasonable.

(4)F1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(5)F1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(6)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

He's guilty then yeah?


Surely it's the person hat took the photo and placed in in the public domain is also guilty of a more serious offence because they are the ones that displayed it to the wider audience
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What kind of person does this? on 20:31 - May 30 with 1365 viewsmorningstar

What kind of person does this? on 20:26 - May 30 by GixerJack

Surely it's the person hat took the photo and placed in in the public domain is also guilty of a more serious offence because they are the ones that displayed it to the wider audience


Totally agree. I've always believed the best place for Darran is a 10''x10'' padded cell!

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What kind of person does this? on 20:34 - May 30 with 1357 viewsLoyal

What kind of person does this? on 20:24 - May 30 by morningstar

Indeed the landlord of the pub who actually barred him from the premises has stated that he has caused alarm and distress to him and his family. We all look at pubs as somewhere we can go and have a good time, but in a lot of cases, it's actually someones home.


The person does not have to be present.
Clapham omnibus. Etc ...

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What kind of person does this? on 20:40 - May 30 with 1337 viewsexiledclaseboy

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What kind of person does this? on 20:42 - May 30 with 1333 viewsblueytheblue

What kind of person does this? on 20:31 - May 30 by morningstar

Totally agree. I've always believed the best place for Darran is a 10''x10'' padded cell!


Bit unfair on the padded cell innit? What's it ever done to you to justify inflicting Dazzer on it?

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What kind of person does this? on 20:50 - May 30 with 1311 viewsdickythorpe

What kind of person does this? on 20:26 - May 30 by GixerJack

Surely it's the person hat took the photo and placed in in the public domain is also guilty of a more serious offence because they are the ones that displayed it to the wider audience


Depends on the motivation innit.
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What kind of person does this? on 20:52 - May 30 with 1299 viewsOldjack

The type of person who is definitely cruising for a serious bruising ,I'm just surprised he's not had one yet

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What kind of person does this? on 20:53 - May 30 with 1297 viewsJackfath

What kind of person does this? on 20:52 - May 30 by Oldjack

The type of person who is definitely cruising for a serious bruising ,I'm just surprised he's not had one yet


You'd have sorted him Al.

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What kind of person does this? on 20:53 - May 30 with 1297 viewsmorningstar

What kind of person does this? on 20:40 - May 30 by exiledclaseboy

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Oh I dunno, Controversial Chambers doesn't have a good ring about it for me!

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What kind of person does this? on 21:15 - May 30 with 1244 viewsHighjack

What kind of person does this? on 20:40 - May 30 by exiledclaseboy

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If I were his lawyer being a bit of a maverick I would instruct him to take the patented T&T (Trundle and Tate) defence and claim someone threw him the t shirt and he put it on without looking what was written on it. Either that or claim he's a religious nutjob who genuinely believes the statement about God is factually correct. That's how the "god hates fags" scumbags get around it in America.

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