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Scotland wants to leave the UK 12:22 - Jun 24 with 12079 viewsLord_Bony

This is worrying if Scotland wants a new referendum...


First Minister Nicola Sturgeon:"Democratically unacceptable" for Scotland to be taken out of EU "against its will"


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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 14:43 - Jun 26 with 1688 viewstrampie

The SNP hold the balance of power, they can decide whether people stay in the UK and or in Europe, the Conservatives are in turmoil, Labour are in turmoil, the Lib-Dems are in turmoil, while the SNP are super strong.

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 14:46 - Jun 26 with 1687 viewsLohengrin

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 14:43 - Jun 26 by trampie

The SNP hold the balance of power, they can decide whether people stay in the UK and or in Europe, the Conservatives are in turmoil, Labour are in turmoil, the Lib-Dems are in turmoil, while the SNP are super strong.


It's not up to the SNP whether or not Scotland becomes a member nation of the EU.

You're talking crazy, hoss.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 14:58 - Jun 26 with 1658 viewstrampie

The British State is starting to break up, Scotland is on the verge of going it alone, N.Ireland wants to be in Europe when their cousins in the Republic already are, Wales could split between Welshies and Anglo's, even Spain is making eyes at Gibraltar.

Oh dear, I blame the Tories, both Red and Blue, this has been on the cards since Thatchers day, the Celts were never going to except perpetual right wing rule once Labour became a right wing party it was always likely the UK would split.

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 16:04 - Jun 26 with 1632 viewsBoundy

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 13:20 - Jun 25 by trampie

Just been on Scottish social media sites and seen what people have been saying.


Stone the crows , you're possibly in the wrong job

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 16:06 - Jun 26 with 1629 viewsBoundy

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 14:25 - Jun 25 by sherpajacob

Or the Nuclear submarines in the Clyde


Which belong to HM armed forces , not William Wallace's happy band of brothers .

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 16:22 - Jun 26 with 1614 viewsBoundy

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 14:43 - Jun 26 by trampie

The SNP hold the balance of power, they can decide whether people stay in the UK and or in Europe, the Conservatives are in turmoil, Labour are in turmoil, the Lib-Dems are in turmoil, while the SNP are super strong.


NON! EU slaps down Sturgeon: SNP leader dramatically announces she wants 'immediate discussions' to STAY in EU... but she is humiliated as Brussels says 'No, that's not how it works'
Nicola Sturgeon said she wanted to 'protect Scotland's place in the EU'
But Brussels civil servants snubbed her, saying whole of UK must exit
Sturgeon called for another Scotland referendum during negotiations
But Brussels said if it voted to leave, it would have to re-apply for EU
By MICHAEL BLACKLEY FOR THE SCOTTISH MAIL ON SUNDAY
PUBLISHED: 01:31, 26 June 2016 | UPDATED: 12:35, 26 June 2016


The EU yesterday dealt a devastating blow to Nicola Sturgeon's new bid for independence - by ruling out any prospect of Scotland retaining its EU membership when Britain leaves.
The SNP leader yesterday said she is seeking 'immediate discussions' with Brussels to 'protect Scotland's place in the EU'.
But The Scottish Mail on Sunday can reveal that the European Commission, the executive body of the EU, has already ruled there is no option but the whole of the UK exiting following Thursday's shock Leave vote.
After the Brexit vote, the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon said she was seeking ‘immediate discussions’ with Brussels to ‘protect Scotland’s place in the EU’
After the Brexit vote, the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon said she was seeking ‘immediate discussions’ with Brussels to ‘protect Scotland’s place in the EU’
Miss Sturgeon had hoped to hold a referendum during the next two years while Brexit negotiations take place - and had wanted Scotland to simply and seamlessly remain in the EU if there was a Yes vote.
But the new ruling by Brussels dashes her hopes, by confirming that an independent Scotland would have to reapply for EU membership.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 16:42 - Jun 26 with 1587 viewsBigPhilG

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 16:22 - Jun 26 by Boundy

NON! EU slaps down Sturgeon: SNP leader dramatically announces she wants 'immediate discussions' to STAY in EU... but she is humiliated as Brussels says 'No, that's not how it works'
Nicola Sturgeon said she wanted to 'protect Scotland's place in the EU'
But Brussels civil servants snubbed her, saying whole of UK must exit
Sturgeon called for another Scotland referendum during negotiations
But Brussels said if it voted to leave, it would have to re-apply for EU
By MICHAEL BLACKLEY FOR THE SCOTTISH MAIL ON SUNDAY
PUBLISHED: 01:31, 26 June 2016 | UPDATED: 12:35, 26 June 2016


The EU yesterday dealt a devastating blow to Nicola Sturgeon's new bid for independence - by ruling out any prospect of Scotland retaining its EU membership when Britain leaves.
The SNP leader yesterday said she is seeking 'immediate discussions' with Brussels to 'protect Scotland's place in the EU'.
But The Scottish Mail on Sunday can reveal that the European Commission, the executive body of the EU, has already ruled there is no option but the whole of the UK exiting following Thursday's shock Leave vote.
After the Brexit vote, the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon said she was seeking ‘immediate discussions’ with Brussels to ‘protect Scotland’s place in the EU’
After the Brexit vote, the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon said she was seeking ‘immediate discussions’ with Brussels to ‘protect Scotland’s place in the EU’
Miss Sturgeon had hoped to hold a referendum during the next two years while Brexit negotiations take place - and had wanted Scotland to simply and seamlessly remain in the EU if there was a Yes vote.
But the new ruling by Brussels dashes her hopes, by confirming that an independent Scotland would have to reapply for EU membership.


Can you see Spain allowing Scotland in ? Then they'd have Catalonia and the basques demanding independence. Spain said two years ago that they would veto any attempt to allow the Scots in
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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 18:26 - Jun 26 with 1548 viewsCooperman

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 16:42 - Jun 26 by BigPhilG

Can you see Spain allowing Scotland in ? Then they'd have Catalonia and the basques demanding independence. Spain said two years ago that they would veto any attempt to allow the Scots in


The Scotland / UK relationship is nothing like the Spain / Catalunya equivalent.
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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 11:36 - Jun 27 with 1484 viewsLord_Bony

It does appear the Scott's dont have the same appetite for the call for another referendum as much as their Cockney brethren....
This means unless there is REAL SUSTAINED SUPPORT (which there does nt appear to be) for staying in the EU in Scotland,Sturgeon and Co may not take it further...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/brexit-which-parts-of-britain-are-mos

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 12:13 - Jun 27 with 1456 viewssherpajacob

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 18:26 - Jun 26 by Cooperman

The Scotland / UK relationship is nothing like the Spain / Catalunya equivalent.
Apples and pears.


I think if the Spanish get Gibraltar out of the deal, they'll be quite happy.

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 12:30 - Jun 27 with 1437 viewsPegojack

If Scotland becomes independent, the Union Jack flag would have to give up its blue background. Now there's a thought. Perhaps they'll put a little red dragon in the middle instead.
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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 16:42 - Jun 27 with 1397 viewsyescomeon

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 11:36 - Jun 27 by Lord_Bony

It does appear the Scott's dont have the same appetite for the call for another referendum as much as their Cockney brethren....
This means unless there is REAL SUSTAINED SUPPORT (which there does nt appear to be) for staying in the EU in Scotland,Sturgeon and Co may not take it further...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/brexit-which-parts-of-britain-are-mos


The link for that article is broken, but I think I just read it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/brexit-which-parts-of-britain-are-mos

I think the Scottish have a different referendum on their mind, and indeed may well have all along. Given what was in the SNP manifesto, anyone in Scotland disappointed with the result of the last referendum would have almost certainly voted remain, just on the off chance that leave won in England.

Upthecity!

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 17:10 - Jun 27 with 1370 viewssherpajacob

The United kingdom of Scotland and Gibraltar.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36639770

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 22:24 - Jun 27 with 1298 viewsGroo

Scotland's results from the EU referendum:
Leave 1,018,322 VOTES
Remain 1,661,191 VOTES

Just 642,869 votes between them.

Scotland did not speak with one voice.

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 19:46 - Jun 28 with 1240 viewstrampie

Close to 2/3rds of Scots voted for 'remain', 62% to 38% - with all 32 council areas backing 'remain', that is a decisive result.
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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 21:22 - Jun 28 with 1207 viewsexiledclaseboy

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 22:24 - Jun 27 by Groo

Scotland's results from the EU referendum:
Leave 1,018,322 VOTES
Remain 1,661,191 VOTES

Just 642,869 votes between them.

Scotland did not speak with one voice.


Just 650000 votes out out of 2.6m cast.

Yeah, came right down to the wire that did.

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 10:29 - Jun 29 with 1156 viewsperchrockjack

Cousins is that what they are.

Incredible

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 10:41 - Jun 29 with 1153 viewsLeonisGod

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 22:24 - Jun 27 by Groo

Scotland's results from the EU referendum:
Leave 1,018,322 VOTES
Remain 1,661,191 VOTES

Just 642,869 votes between them.

Scotland did not speak with one voice.


Not one voice, but one of the biggest majorities.
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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 13:39 - Jun 29 with 1113 viewsGroo

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 10:41 - Jun 29 by LeonisGod

Not one voice, but one of the biggest majorities.


It is a good majority, but the exit vote is a sizeable minority, which goes against the vision of the Scots 100% behind remain that the wicked witch of the North potrays

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 13:42 - Jun 29 with 1107 viewsHighjack

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 21:22 - Jun 28 by exiledclaseboy

Just 650000 votes out out of 2.6m cast.

Yeah, came right down to the wire that did.


A similar thing could be said about the independence referendum too.

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 17:34 - Jun 29 with 1055 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The Scots voted for the whole UK to stay in the EU expecting the rest of the Uk to do the same.
However it is something quite different to vote to stay in the EU on their own without any support from the UK.
Where would they get their Barnett formula from that gives them so many advantages over the rest of the UK.
The price of Oil is still suppressed, so they will not get very much revenue from that either.
So a vote for staying on their own is a very different kettle of fish to staying in with the rest of us.
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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 17:43 - Jun 29 with 1041 viewslondonlisa2001

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 17:34 - Jun 29 by A_Fans_Dad

The Scots voted for the whole UK to stay in the EU expecting the rest of the Uk to do the same.
However it is something quite different to vote to stay in the EU on their own without any support from the UK.
Where would they get their Barnett formula from that gives them so many advantages over the rest of the UK.
The price of Oil is still suppressed, so they will not get very much revenue from that either.
So a vote for staying on their own is a very different kettle of fish to staying in with the rest of us.


That is a very reasonable point.

Of course, turning it round, you could say that the UK voted to come out of the EU expecting the UK to remain as one single entity, and it's quite different to what may have happened had the question been stay in as one or come out and break up?

The difficulty is that it all becomes so circular.

However, I tend to agree that when the stark economics are laid out that the decision isn't as clear cut as Sturgeon would have us believe. She finds herself between a rock and a hard place in many ways.
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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 17:50 - Jun 29 with 1023 viewsLord_Bony

The Scotts were well aware the Uk were about to take a referendum on the EU and the consequences of an out vote before the undetook their own one.

Talking about having your cake and eating it...

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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 18:02 - Jun 29 with 1013 viewslondonlisa2001

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 17:50 - Jun 29 by Lord_Bony

The Scotts were well aware the Uk were about to take a referendum on the EU and the consequences of an out vote before the undetook their own one.

Talking about having your cake and eating it...


I don't think they were were they?

They had their vote before the general election that led to the referendum. And the SNP manifesto made it clear that if UK voted out they would call for another referendum and they voted overwhelmingly for the SNP.
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Scotland wants to leave the UK on 18:06 - Jun 29 with 1003 viewsDr_Winston

Scotland wants to leave the UK on 18:02 - Jun 29 by londonlisa2001

I don't think they were were they?

They had their vote before the general election that led to the referendum. And the SNP manifesto made it clear that if UK voted out they would call for another referendum and they voted overwhelmingly for the SNP.


The SNP can call for what they like. They had their chance and lost. Mwhahahahahaha!!!

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