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I don't know what the answer is but I can't believe that this is the answer.
It's legalised murder, no burden of evidence required, the people have a free reign to kill anyone as long as they say 'drug dealer' after.
I've only been to the Philipines once, in the 90's, it was a desperately poor Country as it still is. I remember seeing a car park attendant sitting at the entrance to the car park, cleaning his gun, armed guards outside places such as 7/11 and MacDonalds.
We chose to go to Chinatown on a whim, it was outside the tourist area, there were tents where people lived all along the river, the river was full of crap. There was a fenced shanty town in the historic area of the town, looked like an old Western fort, with 12 foot high wooden walls, when you looked in the gateway it was full of shacks with raised wooden walkways, multiiple electric meters hung from the wooden wall.
Homeless children roamed the streets, easy prey for a certain type of tourist. We went to a bar that had music on, it was packed and the nearest tables to the men's toilets was taken by groups of young women looking for tourists.
It is a desperateky poor Country, that's for sure and they have many problems, especially with drugs. They have local warlords who kidnap foreigners and locals for money, a Canadian was recently executed there.
Leglised murder with no desire for proof though, it can't be right.
Groo does what Groo does best
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A rather chilling drugs war ... on 15:47 - Aug 26 with 1078 views
A rather chilling drugs war ... on 11:43 - Aug 26 by skippyjack
The Philippines deal with homemade crystal meth and heroin.. The government order hit men.. because they carry AK47s, a machine gun, and snipers around every drug field.. They have 100 thousand drug workers.. practically an army.
This is why the Philippine govt are so cut throat.. drug cartels are practically controlling the land mass with heavy weaponry.
People in the Philippines are dirt poor, so working for the drug business seems a legitimate career choice.
Understood, I just don't see why Duterte doesn't focus the effort on the "five kingpens."
I agree to some extent with controversial_jack - kill all these bottom-level distributors, someone else is just going to take their place. The threat of murder is a better deterrent than the threat of jail time, but that's a tricky path to head down.
A rather chilling drugs war ... on 13:05 - Aug 26 by perchrockjack
Thank you for your respectful replies. Gentlemen, they ARE like burglars and thieves insofar as they want a living for no real effort.
We have kids whose families sacrifice much to get an eventually lucrative living.
I've been to Lisbon and cascais many times and they have a big drug problem. Many inner city ares are no good and stink to high heaven.
Other countries have different cultures. Ours is liberal and ,attimes ,almost liaises fairer
! Repeat none of you have the answer, only opinion and mine is not unique.
Milljack. If you cannot envisage druggies buying free heroine in the night street and the effect it would have then I really can't take this debate further but a genuine thanks anyway to all.
"Druggies buying free heroine"
What the f@ck are you going on about?
You can state your position as a former police officer as much as you like, the fact of the matter is that your anti-drug view is as draconian as the laws that currently cover them.
Do you honestly think that by legalising drugs, and by correctly controlling their sale and usage, that the whole country is going somehow turn into a drug-fuelled waste land full of people shooting up in shopping centres and harassing children? You live in a world of your own Perch, I'll give you that.
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A rather chilling drugs war ... on 23:11 - Aug 26 with 989 views
Drug dealers are not like burglars or car thieves. where you take them off the street and crime drops. Do that to drug dealers and another will take their place the next day and they will put the price up
100% Correct.
If I recall a briefing correctly (with my crap memory , meh!). There was an alleged(false) incident used to cut off the Isle of Sheppy and all the drug dealers were arrested...24 hours later the drug trade was up and running again with new dealers.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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A rather chilling drugs war ... on 23:13 - Aug 26 with 989 views
A rather chilling drugs war ... on 15:37 - Aug 26 by Groo
I don't know what the answer is but I can't believe that this is the answer.
It's legalised murder, no burden of evidence required, the people have a free reign to kill anyone as long as they say 'drug dealer' after.
I've only been to the Philipines once, in the 90's, it was a desperately poor Country as it still is. I remember seeing a car park attendant sitting at the entrance to the car park, cleaning his gun, armed guards outside places such as 7/11 and MacDonalds.
We chose to go to Chinatown on a whim, it was outside the tourist area, there were tents where people lived all along the river, the river was full of crap. There was a fenced shanty town in the historic area of the town, looked like an old Western fort, with 12 foot high wooden walls, when you looked in the gateway it was full of shacks with raised wooden walkways, multiiple electric meters hung from the wooden wall.
Homeless children roamed the streets, easy prey for a certain type of tourist. We went to a bar that had music on, it was packed and the nearest tables to the men's toilets was taken by groups of young women looking for tourists.
It is a desperateky poor Country, that's for sure and they have many problems, especially with drugs. They have local warlords who kidnap foreigners and locals for money, a Canadian was recently executed there.
Leglised murder with no desire for proof though, it can't be right.
Cheers Groo. A Presidential edict "legalising" extra judicial murder/assassination is just wrong. It is "made worse" by the fact that the lower strata are the targets whilst the , rich/very rich kingpins are safe.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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A rather chilling drugs war ... on 07:58 - Aug 27 with 953 views