| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party 13:43 - Sep 24 with 4045 views | trampie |
All Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party which means most of their MP's should be expelled along with the right wingers that have infiltrated the party over the decades.
If they don't expel the Red Tories and continue with their right wing policies then Labour should change their name to the 'New Conservative' party as to not confuse the public that have limited interest in politics. |  |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 16:30 - Sep 26 with 561 views | blueytheblue |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 16:17 - Sep 26 by Darran |
He's vile. |
Irony is I'd have thought the SJWs would have picked up on the "lynch" comment.
The problem Labour have is they are preaching to the converted. Wiped out in Scotland, they've done and said absolutely nothing that would convince current Tory voters to leave and go to Labour en masse. |  |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 16:39 - Sep 26 with 551 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 16:08 - Sep 26 by blueytheblue |
Indeed. Sooner is something done about those abusing council housing the better. Didn't a well paid union leader live in a council house, hmm?
But increasing the deficit will be pretty dumb, eh?
Oh wait. I forgot the Magic Socialist Money Tree. Beats magic beans I suppose. [Post edited 26 Sep 2016 16:10]
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its a disgrace aint it 9 billion to private landlords
300 billion tax evading, dreadful eh bluey dont you think.
hes going after them blue
hes going to give it a go |  |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 16:40 - Sep 26 with 549 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 16:17 - Sep 26 by perchrockjack |
My hatred of Corbin and his ilk clearly have their genesis in the late seventies.
I d moved jp to the north west and eventually joined plod as I was in a bit of a state job wise due to the economy of the time.
I was, fair to say, leftish leaning with fascist overtones but having to,more of less baby sit degsy Hatton and mulhearn changed me forever. Can't really go into details but suffice to say everything that degsy stood for, was a sham . Corbyn is saying basically what militant tendency did and it's why we were subjected to thatcher for so long. |
you hate Corbyn?
youve never said [Post edited 26 Sep 2016 16:42]
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:01 - Sep 26 with 533 views | blueytheblue |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 16:39 - Sep 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
its a disgrace aint it 9 billion to private landlords
300 billion tax evading, dreadful eh bluey dont you think.
hes going after them blue
hes going to give it a go |
9bn to private landlords is a disgrace - more council housing should be provided. Equally, it's council housing not "housing as you want it". Tenants taking the piss like Bob Crow did should be dealt with...
You do realise tax evasion is already illegal or are you one of those dreadful Labourites who don't know the distinction between legal avoidance and illegal evasion?
McDonnell can promise free unicorns for all. Easy to do when no chance of getting elected into goverment.
Wiped out in Scotland. Boundary changes. Liebore's message won't covince enough to vote for them. | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:22 - Sep 26 with 525 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:01 - Sep 26 by blueytheblue |
9bn to private landlords is a disgrace - more council housing should be provided. Equally, it's council housing not "housing as you want it". Tenants taking the piss like Bob Crow did should be dealt with...
You do realise tax evasion is already illegal or are you one of those dreadful Labourites who don't know the distinction between legal avoidance and illegal evasion?
McDonnell can promise free unicorns for all. Easy to do when no chance of getting elected into goverment.
Wiped out in Scotland. Boundary changes. Liebore's message won't covince enough to vote for them. |
Laborites
I've been called a trot ,commie ,leftie.
But never a labourite .
Ah its OK then if its legal , carry on, as you were . | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:33 - Sep 26 with 516 views | perchrockjack |
Plenty of people ,working class people, owe much to thatcher ,for giving them their homes at a knockdown price thus hammering the housing stock ,whilst atvthecsame time ,giving a whole new career for "landlords" sone of whom are scum of the eArth.
I did plenty of work with and for private landlords and made big money . Easy too. | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 18:12 - Sep 26 with 500 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:01 - Sep 26 by blueytheblue |
9bn to private landlords is a disgrace - more council housing should be provided. Equally, it's council housing not "housing as you want it". Tenants taking the piss like Bob Crow did should be dealt with...
You do realise tax evasion is already illegal or are you one of those dreadful Labourites who don't know the distinction between legal avoidance and illegal evasion?
McDonnell can promise free unicorns for all. Easy to do when no chance of getting elected into goverment.
Wiped out in Scotland. Boundary changes. Liebore's message won't covince enough to vote for them. |
I'm betting your one of those Tories who knows all about tax avoidance............................... |  |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 18:12 - Sep 26 with 500 views | blueytheblue |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:22 - Sep 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Laborites
I've been called a trot ,commie ,leftie.
But never a labourite .
Ah its OK then if its legal , carry on, as you were . |
Example of tax avoidance - Company makes "profit" of 100m.
Company re-invests into the company, for example 20m.
Makes 80m taxable.
(Overly simplified example).
So is that avoidance bad when it's skilling staff?
The fact is, the tax system is ridiculously overly complex. It's farcical that in the course of one year I was sent four separate tax codes... | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:04 - Sep 26 with 481 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 18:12 - Sep 26 by blueytheblue |
Example of tax avoidance - Company makes "profit" of 100m.
Company re-invests into the company, for example 20m.
Makes 80m taxable.
(Overly simplified example).
So is that avoidance bad when it's skilling staff?
The fact is, the tax system is ridiculously overly complex. It's farcical that in the course of one year I was sent four separate tax codes... |
Almost as daft as me taking less money home per month after my last "pay rise". Corbyn's fault. Probably. |  |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:17 - Sep 26 with 472 views | acejack3065 |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:04 - Sep 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Almost as daft as me taking less money home per month after my last "pay rise". Corbyn's fault. Probably. |
Are they still giving out pay rises in the civil service? You lucky bastard! |  | | |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:20 - Sep 26 with 466 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:04 - Sep 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Almost as daft as me taking less money home per month after my last "pay rise". Corbyn's fault. Probably. |
Don't know your exact circumstances but theoretically impossible. | | | |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:22 - Sep 26 with 463 views | blueytheblue |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:04 - Sep 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Almost as daft as me taking less money home per month after my last "pay rise". Corbyn's fault. Probably. |
It was a simplified example... genuine abusers should be targetted. No problem with that.
You can't however turn round and stigmatise companies operating legally as per tax rules as they stand. Adding another 6 pages to target one particular thing is just adding to the problem.
IT world, plenty of PSCs have used offshore schemes. Fundamentally disagree with them, thankfully they are being closed. Usually of the form "company X takes all the income, gives it to you as a loan which it writes off every year". Even if it wasn't blatently ripping off tax, you'd be relying upon the company writing ff the loan. If they didn't, you're screwed...
What I don't like is HMRC have powers to make it retrospective. Scheme could be legal for ages; suddenly deemed illegal, HMRC can backdate things. That just flies in the face of justice imo. | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:23 - Sep 26 with 461 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:20 - Sep 26 by londonlisa2001 |
Don't know your exact circumstances but theoretically impossible. |
It can be theoretically as impossible as you like, it happened to me last year. Twice actually, but I understand why it happened the second time. | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:23 - Sep 26 with 456 views | WarwickHunt |
So Trampie - on exactly which grounds should the red tories be expelled from the err... Red Tory Party.
I see you've applied your usual intellectual rigour to your opening post... |  | | |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:26 - Sep 26 with 451 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:23 - Sep 26 by exiledclaseboy |
It can be theoretically as impossible as you like, it happened to me last year. Twice actually, but I understand why it happened the second time. |
Did you check with them? Because unless there is another reason (eg, change of tax coding) that you're not disclosing for dramatic effect, it's not possible to take home less after a pay rise due to tax or NI as it's marginal. | | | |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:35 - Sep 26 with 441 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 19:26 - Sep 26 by londonlisa2001 |
Did you check with them? Because unless there is another reason (eg, change of tax coding) that you're not disclosing for dramatic effect, it's not possible to take home less after a pay rise due to tax or NI as it's marginal. |
The wife explained it to me as she's in the field. She insists it's all above board and correct but I can't pretend to understand it. Something to do with thresholds but there was no tax code change.
Dramatic effect indeed. You underestimate me. | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 07:59 - Sep 27 with 382 views | nice_to_michu |
Tramp having a pop at the Labour Party once more, yawn.
Shouldn't he be more focused on the fact that UKIP have made more gains in the Assembly than the supposed "party of Wales"? Is Neil Hamilton really more appealing than Leanne Wood? Both are hilariously inept, we know, but come on. [Post edited 27 Sep 2016 8:09]
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 08:07 - Sep 27 with 381 views | Dr_Winston |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:33 - Sep 26 by perchrockjack |
Plenty of people ,working class people, owe much to thatcher ,for giving them their homes at a knockdown price thus hammering the housing stock ,whilst atvthecsame time ,giving a whole new career for "landlords" sone of whom are scum of the eArth.
I did plenty of work with and for private landlords and made big money . Easy too. |
The important thing is to not let it eat away at you.
You'll end up with an ulcer. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 08:10 - Sep 27 with 378 views | nice_to_michu |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:33 - Sep 26 by perchrockjack |
Plenty of people ,working class people, owe much to thatcher ,for giving them their homes at a knockdown price thus hammering the housing stock ,whilst atvthecsame time ,giving a whole new career for "landlords" sone of whom are scum of the eArth.
I did plenty of work with and for private landlords and made big money . Easy too. |
Dooooooon't care | | | |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 08:14 - Sep 27 with 375 views | blueytheblue |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 18:12 - Sep 26 by Brynmill_Jack |
I'm betting your one of those Tories who knows all about tax avoidance............................... |
You'd bet wrong.
Only real "tax avoidance" you can point the finger at is I donate an amount of company profits to a special needs school with charitable status. Granted somewhat of self-interest involved as son does go there.
Oh noes it reduces the amount of tax my company pays. The horror!
PSCs that take the p*** I condemn. Mostly due to the fact it then makes it more difficult for those running legit businesses. | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 08:19 - Sep 27 with 371 views | Dr_Winston |
Anyone who has ever bought Duty Free has taken part in tax avoidance. The moral hysteria over it is funny as hell. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 09:39 - Sep 27 with 348 views | johnlangy |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 17:01 - Sep 26 by blueytheblue |
9bn to private landlords is a disgrace - more council housing should be provided. Equally, it's council housing not "housing as you want it". Tenants taking the piss like Bob Crow did should be dealt with...
You do realise tax evasion is already illegal or are you one of those dreadful Labourites who don't know the distinction between legal avoidance and illegal evasion?
McDonnell can promise free unicorns for all. Easy to do when no chance of getting elected into goverment.
Wiped out in Scotland. Boundary changes. Liebore's message won't covince enough to vote for them. |
What Philip Green did was legal avoidance.
Saying that it was his wife who 'earned' that £571 million that was taken out of BHS and claiming that she should pay no UK tax on it because she's a resident of Monaco is perfectly legal.
And it is. It doesn't alter the fact that, in my opinion, he's no better than a thief. So what difference evasion and avoidance in that example. One is as morally offensive as the other.
And there are, i'm certain, thousands of others doing exactly the same. The 9 billion to private landlords would be a pittance in comparison with the amount that is being 'legally' avoided in such a totally immoral way. | | | |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 13:28 - Sep 27 with 321 views | nice_to_michu |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 08:19 - Sep 27 by Dr_Winston |
Anyone who has ever bought Duty Free has taken part in tax avoidance. The moral hysteria over it is funny as hell. |
Really? So proportions don't matter at all do they? | | | |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 13:34 - Sep 27 with 318 views | blueytheblue |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 13:28 - Sep 27 by nice_to_michu |
Really? So proportions don't matter at all do they? |
Total all duty free, I'd be surprised if it was less than the Phillip Green amount.
Indeed, how many people pay cash in hand to get a lower bill from tradesmen? Don't see anyone complaining about tax evasion in that instance...
Quite a lot of tax law changes have stemmed from widespread abuses within the building industry.
Tax evasion is illegal. If you also want to stop tax avoidance, then apply that view equally. It's not just the alleged 1% indulging... | |
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| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 13:46 - Sep 27 with 311 views | nice_to_michu |
| Red Tories should be expelled from the Labour party on 13:34 - Sep 27 by blueytheblue |
Total all duty free, I'd be surprised if it was less than the Phillip Green amount.
Indeed, how many people pay cash in hand to get a lower bill from tradesmen? Don't see anyone complaining about tax evasion in that instance...
Quite a lot of tax law changes have stemmed from widespread abuses within the building industry.
Tax evasion is illegal. If you also want to stop tax avoidance, then apply that view equally. It's not just the alleged 1% indulging... |
By that logic we should only attempt to curb vices that we can be sure will hold each and every transgressor. If, for example, the most frequent and most damaging corruption within the police force occurred with the Met in London, unless we can be sure to tackle the less damaging corruption in Mid-Wales, we should just leave it? | | | |
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