| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? 00:05 - Sep 29 with 1713 views | sammylee3 |
No, so why is Guido taking the blame??? Sell our top scorer and best defender and we were poor last year even with them doh!
The board need to take a long look at themselves, who can score goals ffs?? High risk signings duhhhhhh |  | | |  |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 00:10 - Sep 29 with 1705 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
They wanted to go |  |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 07:45 - Sep 29 with 1596 views | sP7qupUf |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 00:10 - Sep 29 by oh_tommy_tommy |
They wanted to go |
True. But what did the Board do to replace them and support the manager? As the OP said, they were our best forward and defender in a team that largely struggled. |  | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 08:27 - Sep 29 with 1535 views | Loyal |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 07:45 - Sep 29 by sP7qupUf |
True. But what did the Board do to replace them and support the manager? As the OP said, they were our best forward and defender in a team that largely struggled. |
The board bought Llorente and Baston and two central defenders as well.
Can't fault the replacements IMO. |  |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 08:38 - Sep 29 with 1512 views | Scotia |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 08:27 - Sep 29 by Loyal |
The board bought Llorente and Baston and two central defenders as well.
Can't fault the replacements IMO. |
We played pathetically with them last year, Guido takes his share of the blame because he still doesn't know his strongest team, despite them leaving weeks ago. | | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 09:24 - Sep 29 with 1441 views | majorraglan |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 08:38 - Sep 29 by Scotia |
We played pathetically with them last year, Guido takes his share of the blame because he still doesn't know his strongest team, despite them leaving weeks ago. |
Maybe the form some players are is the cause of him changing things about- Fernandez has coped some stick on here. | | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 09:49 - Sep 29 with 1391 views | Private_Partz |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 08:38 - Sep 29 by Scotia |
We played pathetically with them last year, Guido takes his share of the blame because he still doesn't know his strongest team, despite them leaving weeks ago. |
They left months ago. It was weeks ago when we got the replacements in though. One of them being injured and has hardly played any games.
Frankie's only crime is saying he was happy with midfield when it is obvious we have failed to strengthen adequately. I can understand why he showed loyalty to his employers and faith in his players however. Especially when he obviously has confidence that he can get the current squad playing sufficiently well enough for survival at least.
It amazes the board and a few supporters are not prepared to cut him slack and at least give him a decent shot at getting the points on the board. We have sufficient time to see how things pan and get someone else if he fails to rack up sufficient points.
If we arrive at that situation I hope we will have better candidates lined up than the two muppets on offer at the moment. We are hardly fighting off any other suitors for them which speaks volumes on their quality. |  |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 09:52 - Sep 29 with 1384 views | monmouth |
If he is replaced, I hope the yankers tell Jenkins that HIS job is on the line if yet another of his choices doesn't cut the mustard (however that's actually measured these days). |  |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:11 - Sep 29 with 1311 views | jack247 |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 08:27 - Sep 29 by Loyal |
The board bought Llorente and Baston and two central defenders as well.
Can't fault the replacements IMO. |
Two very good players, but totally unsuited to the type of football we started playing towards the end of last season. Ayew, Paloschi and Williams were.
Guidolin now has to find another way of playing with players that aren't really compatible with each other. It's at least part of the reason this season started off so insipidly, much like it did when he first had to get a tune out of Monks players.
Not saying he is blameless, but he isn't the biggest problem by a long shot. | | | |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:15 - Sep 29 with 1306 views | DafyddHuw |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 00:10 - Sep 29 by oh_tommy_tommy |
They wanted to go |
And?
Berahino has wanted to go for the last 3 seasons. Last season Costa wanted to go, Lukaku wanted to go.
Their clubs said no. It's not rocket science. |  | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:22 - Sep 29 with 1299 views | jack247 |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:15 - Sep 29 by DafyddHuw |
And?
Berahino has wanted to go for the last 3 seasons. Last season Costa wanted to go, Lukaku wanted to go.
Their clubs said no. It's not rocket science. |
It's not even necessarily that. If the bid is too big to turn down, let them go but replace them with players capable of doing the same job. I think we were so busy penny pinching we took our eye right off the ball recruitment wise | | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:35 - Sep 29 with 1275 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:15 - Sep 29 by DafyddHuw |
And?
Berahino has wanted to go for the last 3 seasons. Last season Costa wanted to go, Lukaku wanted to go.
Their clubs said no. It's not rocket science. |
And ?
It's not as simple as that | |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:36 - Sep 29 with 1273 views | Darran |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:15 - Sep 29 by DafyddHuw |
And?
Berahino has wanted to go for the last 3 seasons. Last season Costa wanted to go, Lukaku wanted to go.
Their clubs said no. It's not rocket science. |
That's the best post you've ever made Daf and I wholeheartedly agree,I've been saying it for years. |  |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 12:04 - Sep 29 with 1239 views | monmouth |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:36 - Sep 29 by Darran |
That's the best post you've ever made Daf and I wholeheartedly agree,I've been saying it for years. |
Aye - we do tend to always trot out the 'we couldn't stand in his way' line and supinely surrender.
At least if they were more pro-active and said that we believe we've had a fair price and are totally happy with the trasaction, you could have a bit more respect. Selling ALWAYS seems the default option with us. | |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 12:24 - Sep 29 with 1205 views | WarwickHunt |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 12:04 - Sep 29 by monmouth |
Aye - we do tend to always trot out the 'we couldn't stand in his way' line and supinely surrender.
At least if they were more pro-active and said that we believe we've had a fair price and are totally happy with the trasaction, you could have a bit more respect. Selling ALWAYS seems the default option with us. |
"We don't want any players who don't want to play for Swansea City" roughly translates as "We won't keep any players we can make a few quid on". |  | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 13:37 - Sep 29 with 1121 views | JackFish |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 08:27 - Sep 29 by Loyal |
The board bought Llorente and Baston and two central defenders as well.
Can't fault the replacements IMO. |
But those two were replacing Gomis/Eder/Paloschi, not Ayew. Ayew's place in the squad has basically been taken by Dyer. VDH was basically a Bartley replacement too, so we've got Mawson and pocketed £7m from selling Ash. |  | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 14:31 - Sep 29 with 1063 views | jack247 |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 13:37 - Sep 29 by JackFish |
But those two were replacing Gomis/Eder/Paloschi, not Ayew. Ayew's place in the squad has basically been taken by Dyer. VDH was basically a Bartley replacement too, so we've got Mawson and pocketed £7m from selling Ash. |
Gomis, Eder and Paloschi weren't scoring. Most of our goals were coming from Ayew and Siggy. In theory it made sense. Bring in strikers who chip in with a few goals, taking the pressure off the midfield and solving the problem of Ayew messing up our shape but being indispensable because we relied on his goals.
They had to buy the right kind of strikers though. I think Llorente is a great player, but he isn't going to chase balls into the corner and press defenders all day. Now we have to adapt our style again to suit the players we have. | | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 14:38 - Sep 29 with 1043 views | costalotta |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 08:27 - Sep 29 by Loyal |
The board bought Llorente and Baston and two central defenders as well.
Can't fault the replacements IMO. |
Time will tell on that score. At the moment its not looking particularly promising though as our results...like for like against last season with the aforementioned players in the squad are worse than last season.
we'll see... |  | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 14:58 - Sep 29 with 1022 views | LeonisGod |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 13:37 - Sep 29 by JackFish |
But those two were replacing Gomis/Eder/Paloschi, not Ayew. Ayew's place in the squad has basically been taken by Dyer. VDH was basically a Bartley replacement too, so we've got Mawson and pocketed £7m from selling Ash. |
Broadly agree, although I think it's clear to see that VDH is an upgrade on Bartley.
We know they were looking to add another 1 or 2 leading up to deadline day, so they obviously know that the squad isn't ideal and weren't just looking to pocket what they could. It sounds like more money was/is there.
But we are where we are and need to have the balls to ride this tough spell out. |  | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 15:09 - Sep 29 with 1010 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 14:58 - Sep 29 by LeonisGod |
Broadly agree, although I think it's clear to see that VDH is an upgrade on Bartley.
We know they were looking to add another 1 or 2 leading up to deadline day, so they obviously know that the squad isn't ideal and weren't just looking to pocket what they could. It sounds like more money was/is there.
But we are where we are and need to have the balls to ride this tough spell out. |
That midfielder chose Ajax over us
Ziyech
Even though he'd be on more Money ,can't blame him I suppose | |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 15:18 - Sep 29 with 991 views | jackthepeg |
Practically all teams in the league bought and sold players. These new players will all have to fit in or adapt to their new managers playing style, or the manager has ideas about slightly altering the style to suit the new players. There are so many imponderables in these early games for all teams, some will fly and some will struggle (look at Leicester , West Ham etc)
In the end we, along with every other team will reach their true position, which I believe will be around 10th to 12th. | | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 15:33 - Sep 29 with 974 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 13:37 - Sep 29 by JackFish |
But those two were replacing Gomis/Eder/Paloschi, not Ayew. Ayew's place in the squad has basically been taken by Dyer. VDH was basically a Bartley replacement too, so we've got Mawson and pocketed £7m from selling Ash. |
Who is this guy Mawson, I have heard we paid quite a bit for him and that he was even on the bench once.
Did anyone actually see him?
Does he realy exist?
Did we really pay £5m for a player that never plays, even for the under 23s?
But is rated as "on a level with anyone in the squad"?
Just in case you are not sure /Sarc off | | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 16:25 - Sep 29 with 946 views | karnataka |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 11:22 - Sep 29 by jack247 |
It's not even necessarily that. If the bid is too big to turn down, let them go but replace them with players capable of doing the same job. I think we were so busy penny pinching we took our eye right off the ball recruitment wise |
I agree and I don't think it's any coincidence that Ash, Ayew and Gomis were probably our 3 highest wage earners either which is why there was very little resistance to them leaving, (not that there would have been for Gomis anyway, but that's not the point.) |  | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 16:55 - Sep 29 with 921 views | dobjack2 |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 14:58 - Sep 29 by LeonisGod |
Broadly agree, although I think it's clear to see that VDH is an upgrade on Bartley.
We know they were looking to add another 1 or 2 leading up to deadline day, so they obviously know that the squad isn't ideal and weren't just looking to pocket what they could. It sounds like more money was/is there.
But we are where we are and need to have the balls to ride this tough spell out. |
We were looking to strengthen the squad but didn't. As we allegedly watch players for years we should have been able to make decisions pretty quickly.
The issues appear to be that we weren't prepared to pay the transfer fee/wages or that we moved too slowly and other clubs were able to demonstrate to the players that they really wanted them to sign. I can only assume that we were hoping that fees/wages would drop at the end of the window.
We clearly wanted Joe therefore this was an area that was identified as needing strengthening yet after we failed to sign him ....We needed a replacement for ayew - a wide player with a goal threat - we gave Nathan a 4 year contract. FStrengthening these areas was not rocket science and was identified by many posters.
Ash goes and we pay £5 million for a promising young centre half who hasn't been seen.
Yes we have to get on with it. The strikers we signed are totally different styles to last season and the manager has to find an effective way of using the squad he has been given. However it is yet another fecked up transfer window where we didn't strengthen key areas and bought players whose style means we need to change the shape and tactics of the team (again).
Meanwhile the person responsible probably earns more in a month than the majority of posters earn in a year. | | | |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 16:57 - Sep 29 with 916 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
The manager has changed "our" style
He has the players there but won't go with it . | |
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| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 17:05 - Sep 29 with 908 views | jack247 |
| Is it Guido's fault we sell Ayew and Ash?? on 16:57 - Sep 29 by oh_tommy_tommy |
The manager has changed "our" style
He has the players there but won't go with it . |
Would have been ab accurate statement 12 months ago | | | |
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