| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:23 - Oct 27 with 1170 views | Lohengrin |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:05 - Oct 27 by NeiltheTaylor |
How many people call themselves "Anarcho-Sydicalist"? |
Syndicalism itself, shorn of that hyphenated prefix, embodies a wealth of ideas and possibilities. |  |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:29 - Oct 27 with 1158 views | perchrockjack |
You certainly must have ripped through those Janet and John books ,loh.
These days ,it ll be Janet and Josie or Jeremy and John |  |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:36 - Oct 27 with 1144 views | Lohengrin |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:29 - Oct 27 by perchrockjack |
You certainly must have ripped through those Janet and John books ,loh.
These days ,it ll be Janet and Josie or Jeremy and John |
Just so long as we don't end up with Jeremy and Diane!  | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:38 - Oct 27 with 1139 views | perchrockjack |
Jack and Diane was great | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:41 - Oct 27 with 1136 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:23 - Oct 27 by Lohengrin |
Syndicalism itself, shorn of that hyphenated prefix, embodies a wealth of ideas and possibilities. |
You're probably way ahead of me on the possibilities and drawbacks, but I've found the basic ideas quite compelling and suited to transition from late stage capitalism from both individual and societal perspectives.
In fact many people in very rural and remote areas have always kind of lived that way. [Post edited 27 Oct 2016 20:45]
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| Joe_bradshaw -I thought the cryochamber was the new name for Cardiff's stadium.
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:48 - Oct 27 with 1122 views | Lohengrin |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:41 - Oct 27 by NeiltheTaylor |
You're probably way ahead of me on the possibilities and drawbacks, but I've found the basic ideas quite compelling and suited to transition from late stage capitalism from both individual and societal perspectives.
In fact many people in very rural and remote areas have always kind of lived that way. [Post edited 27 Oct 2016 20:45]
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Those ideas were beginning to gain real traction in this neck of the woods a century ago, Neil. I've sometimes wondered what may have happened if not for the First War? So many of its most forceful advocates perished in Flanders whereas the entire Labour leadership spent the war picking apples and sowing mailbags as 'Conchies.'
The great battle of ideas that was fated never to take place. | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:03 - Oct 27 with 1094 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:48 - Oct 27 by Lohengrin |
Those ideas were beginning to gain real traction in this neck of the woods a century ago, Neil. I've sometimes wondered what may have happened if not for the First War? So many of its most forceful advocates perished in Flanders whereas the entire Labour leadership spent the war picking apples and sowing mailbags as 'Conchies.'
The great battle of ideas that was fated never to take place. |
Interesting, as ever. Any suggested reading? | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:09 - Oct 27 with 1082 views | Highjack |
Can someone please briefly summarise the content of the OPs video as I don't want to subject my ears to the shrill barking of a mad woman?
K thanks bye X |  |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:16 - Oct 27 with 1071 views | Jack_Meoff |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 18:36 - Oct 27 by blueytheblue |
Of course he'd identify as NuLabour - they actually won elections... |
Because they were controlled opposition that allowed the war machine to keep turning |  |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:19 - Oct 27 with 1062 views | exiledclaseboy |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 20:21 - Oct 27 by blueytheblue |
And the concept of the NHS was originally by the Liberals.
Your point? [Post edited 27 Oct 2016 20:22]
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That's more than a bit of a stretch of the truth, even for you. |  |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:19 - Oct 27 with 1059 views | exiledclaseboy |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:16 - Oct 27 by Jack_Meoff |
Because they were controlled opposition that allowed the war machine to keep turning |
Right on, brother. | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:34 - Oct 27 with 1038 views | Gravy |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:03 - Oct 27 by NeiltheTaylor |
Interesting, as ever. Any suggested reading? |
Yep, count me in on suggested reading as well. |  | | |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:39 - Oct 27 with 1023 views | Joe_bradshaw |
How many people call themselves Eric? |  |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:50 - Oct 27 with 1001 views | Lohengrin |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:03 - Oct 27 by NeiltheTaylor |
Interesting, as ever. Any suggested reading? |
That's a difficult one, Neil. I've got quite a bit here, most of which has been out of print for years. I suppose the logical place to start would be with Sorel's Reflections.
It was first published around 1910, if I remember correctly. You'll have to allow for the passage of time and the forcefulness with which he makes his case (it shocked a lot at the time and still retains the power to jolt now.)
If you pick up a copy you may well find much of what he says contradictory, his thinking often muddled. Lenin thought that Sorel's fatal flaw, when I first read it I found that the books major attraction as it invites you to deconstruct his arguments and spurs you to think for yourself. | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 23:15 - Oct 27 with 965 views | nice_to_michu |
#Plaid-Kip
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 23:57 - Oct 27 with 900 views | Kilkennyjack |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 23:15 - Oct 27 by nice_to_michu |
#Plaid-Kip
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Plaid are now a socialist party under lovely Leanne.
Ukip are bnp light. Avoid. |  |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 01:50 - Oct 28 with 877 views | nice_to_michu |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 23:57 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack |
Plaid are now a socialist party under lovely Leanne.
Ukip are bnp light. Avoid. |
Leanne didn't avoid though did she, that's the point.
Saw the keys to power within her grasp, and lapped up the opportunity.
You know it, and Labour sure as hell will remind voters of it, as they should. | | | |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 04:27 - Oct 28 with 863 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 21:50 - Oct 27 by Lohengrin |
That's a difficult one, Neil. I've got quite a bit here, most of which has been out of print for years. I suppose the logical place to start would be with Sorel's Reflections.
It was first published around 1910, if I remember correctly. You'll have to allow for the passage of time and the forcefulness with which he makes his case (it shocked a lot at the time and still retains the power to jolt now.)
If you pick up a copy you may well find much of what he says contradictory, his thinking often muddled. Lenin thought that Sorel's fatal flaw, when I first read it I found that the books major attraction as it invites you to deconstruct his arguments and spurs you to think for yourself. |
Thanks. My suspicion over its limitations (and my understanding thereof) are that; much like trying to understand capitalistic financing and economics using examples of household budgeting - trying to view Syndicalistic labour exchange and cooperative structures using examples of how it could work in rural economies, really won't cut it in large, post industrial cities. [Post edited 28 Oct 2016 4:32]
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| Joe_bradshaw -I thought the cryochamber was the new name for Cardiff's stadium.
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 05:08 - Oct 28 with 852 views | Lohengrin |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 04:27 - Oct 28 by NeiltheTaylor |
Thanks. My suspicion over its limitations (and my understanding thereof) are that; much like trying to understand capitalistic financing and economics using examples of household budgeting - trying to view Syndicalistic labour exchange and cooperative structures using examples of how it could work in rural economies, really won't cut it in large, post industrial cities. [Post edited 28 Oct 2016 4:32]
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Hence the popularity of Schumacher's 'Small is beautiful' amongst those of a Syndicalist bent in the '70s.
That's still in print too, Neil. | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 06:18 - Oct 28 with 838 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 05:08 - Oct 28 by Lohengrin |
Hence the popularity of Schumacher's 'Small is beautiful' amongst those of a Syndicalist bent in the '70s.
That's still in print too, Neil. |
Wiki reading "A Guide for the Perplexed" - some very interesting concepts, especially around materialism and the way scientific method has grown up being as limiting as it is informative in the way that "proof" could be different from "truth". I find that kind of highly academic philosophy only so useful mind...
Back to the Syndicalists, I see Sam Mainwaring was a Welsh speaker from Neath (huge Swansea Villa fan). He seemed a bit too internationalist for Leanne's Nationalist Socialists though. [Post edited 28 Oct 2016 6:23]
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 09:10 - Oct 28 with 778 views | perchrockjack |
Thnk it's a lock of trampie s hair.
Fair play, she shaves her pits | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 09:20 - Oct 28 with 775 views | Highjack |
I'm also concerned about what appears to be an electronic tagging device around her neck. Could it be that the mild mannered erstwhile Leanne is secretly a master criminal on the run? Has she seeked the sanctuary of plaid Cymru deliberately because she knows nobody will ever notice her there? | |
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| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 09:32 - Oct 28 with 773 views | perchrockjack |
| How many people call themselves a Socialist these days ? on 09:20 - Oct 28 by Highjack |
I'm also concerned about what appears to be an electronic tagging device around her neck. Could it be that the mild mannered erstwhile Leanne is secretly a master criminal on the run? Has she seeked the sanctuary of plaid Cymru deliberately because she knows nobody will ever notice her there? |
Well it's not a pearl necklace.
Frankly, can't see why anyone would want to see themselves as anything by giving themselves a label.
I noted Ken loach was on last night ,champion of the lower classes . First question was the great news on Sunderland s Nissan plant. Good news ? Well no, this quickly morphed into the usual dross
Let's face it, any good news is just what corbyn and the lefties want.
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