| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? 20:24 - Mar 31 with 28610 views | Kilkennyjack |
According to the Guardian ....
Brexit - the fun has already started..... |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 14:48 - Apr 1 with 1708 views | union_jack |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 14:22 - Apr 1 by Highjack |
F uck strategic importance, the only thing that matters or should matter is that the people of Gibraltar almost universally want to stay British and don't want to be handed over to Spain. |
Ideally, yes. Politically, well the govt won't really give a toss about the people, just it's geographical location. |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 15:21 - Apr 1 with 1674 views | exiledclaseboy |
Let's not forget that the UK government was more than happy to hand Spain shared sovereignty of Gibraltar back about 15 years ago. I know nothing of Gibraltar's supposed strategic importance but that indicates that it may not be as vital as has been made out in this thread. |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 15:25 - Apr 1 with 1668 views | perchrockjack |
It's far less strategic and more a case of people wanting to remain under the Crown
People seemingly want Spain to take it back against 99 per cent of the people s wishes.
Same as Falklands where some venal British politicians would have given to Argentina and sold the islanders down the river |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 16:01 - Apr 1 with 1652 views | sherpajacob |
In short it should be about self determination.
In reality, I can see May and Davis using it as a bargaining chip, they don't actually care about the rights and wrongs of it.
For the EU it's a miniscule issue, for Mrs May it's politically massive, which means the EU can use it to lever the UK where they want us. |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:21 - Apr 1 with 1597 views | morningstar |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 15:25 - Apr 1 by perchrockjack |
It's far less strategic and more a case of people wanting to remain under the Crown
People seemingly want Spain to take it back against 99 per cent of the people s wishes.
Same as Falklands where some venal British politicians would have given to Argentina and sold the islanders down the river |
Why do you think we took Gibraltar in the first place? Because we thought the residents there wanted to be British? A tiny little tip of a peninsular that is the gateway to the whole Mediterranean! And you think we want to keep it because of the residents right? ........ |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:23 - Apr 1 with 1595 views | morningstar |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 15:21 - Apr 1 by exiledclaseboy |
Let's not forget that the UK government was more than happy to hand Spain shared sovereignty of Gibraltar back about 15 years ago. I know nothing of Gibraltar's supposed strategic importance but that indicates that it may not be as vital as has been made out in this thread. |
Shared sovereignty means we still have control of the straights. What part of this don't you grasp? | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 21:55 - Apr 1 with 1562 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:23 - Apr 1 by morningstar |
Shared sovereignty means we still have control of the straights. What part of this don't you grasp? |
The good people of Gib have been sold down the river by the old English feckwits.
Fact.
And wheres the extra money for the nhs ? Aspirational only now ? Tossers. | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 22:17 - Apr 1 with 1554 views | sherpajacob |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:23 - Apr 1 by morningstar |
Shared sovereignty means we still have control of the straights. What part of this don't you grasp? |
Control of the straights?
What exactly does that give us?
It isn't 1942, | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 22:23 - Apr 1 with 1541 views | morningstar |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 22:17 - Apr 1 by sherpajacob |
Control of the straights?
What exactly does that give us?
It isn't 1942, |
No, it's 2017.  | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 23:27 - Apr 1 with 1490 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:23 - Apr 1 by morningstar |
Shared sovereignty means we still have control of the straights. What part of this don't you grasp? |
Nothing. As I said "I know nothing about Gibraltar's supposed strategic importance". | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 23:34 - Apr 1 with 1484 views | Lord_Bony |
Historically it was an incredibly important military base. It is less so now. When you look at the kinds of military operations Gibraltar was involved in the past, like World War II, these were clearly enormous military operations of a scale that does not happen anymore
But the UK still has a huge military[intelligence network going on there and of course a naval base.
Strategically of course we could screw up the entrance to the Mediterranean Sea and that is why its been such a huge bargaining chip for us the last 300 years or so. |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 23:39 - Apr 1 with 1479 views | exiledclaseboy |
I've met a few Gibraltarians through work. Lovely people and immensely proud of the British link. They all sound suspiciously Spanish though. | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 23:40 - Apr 1 with 1479 views | morningstar |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 23:27 - Apr 1 by exiledclaseboy |
Nothing. As I said "I know nothing about Gibraltar's supposed strategic importance". |
In that case i'm happy that i've enlightened you.  | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 23:52 - Apr 1 with 1460 views | Loyal |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 23:27 - Apr 1 by exiledclaseboy |
Nothing. As I said "I know nothing about Gibraltar's supposed strategic importance". |
Pretty obvious really, anywhere with a rock that is highly populated offers opportunity abound for fiddling, rummaging, tweaking and inserting. The moisture levels in the summer will enable unforced access thus no strenuous yelping will be experienced. Added to that I understand they sell fish and chips in large quantities so I can test my salt n vinegar burns your bean theory out on a variety of nationalities.
I'm surprised ECB, I thought you were better than that. |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 23:58 - Apr 1 with 1452 views | Lord_Bony |
Never seen so many flies in my life there in Gibraltar...trying to eat a meal outside in a restraunt in the main square in summer is horrible....swarms of flies blown over from Africa...they are everywhere...added to that back street pubs that look like something from the back streets of Bristol in the 50s it has a big down market side to it in places....dont even go into the traffic congestion and ques trying to get in and out of the place...
would not want to go back myself.... | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 12:17 - Apr 2 with 1354 views | exiledclaseboy |
Yes is the simple answer to that. | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 19:29 - Apr 2 with 1277 views | morningstar |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 12:17 - Apr 2 by exiledclaseboy |
Yes is the simple answer to that. |
We shouldn't allow this to snowball into a Falklands like situation, we should launch a preemptive strike against Spain at the earliest opportunity. | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:16 - Apr 2 with 1250 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 19:29 - Apr 2 by morningstar |
We shouldn't allow this to snowball into a Falklands like situation, we should launch a preemptive strike against Spain at the earliest opportunity. |
Hahahaha.
That would go well for us wouldn't it. | | | |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:18 - Apr 2 with 1246 views | morningstar |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:16 - Apr 2 by londonlisa2001 |
Hahahaha.
That would go well for us wouldn't it. |
Brexit means Brexit innit!  | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:22 - Apr 2 with 1238 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:18 - Apr 2 by morningstar |
Brexit means Brexit innit! |
The added complication is that both Spain and the U.K. are NATO members, meaning we're both obliged to defend each other in the event of hostile action. So if Spain attacked us Spain would be obliged to defend the UK from its own attack. And vice versa of course. What larks. | |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:23 - Apr 2 with 1236 views | longlostjack |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 19:29 - Apr 2 by morningstar |
We shouldn't allow this to snowball into a Falklands like situation, we should launch a preemptive strike against Spain at the earliest opportunity. |
Spare a thought for all those pensioners from Essex living on the Costas. You know, the ones who voted for Brexit because there was too much EU immigration into the UK. They would probably be interned before hostilities started. |  |
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| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:25 - Apr 2 with 1234 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Gibraltar to be Spanish ? on 20:22 - Apr 2 by exiledclaseboy |
The added complication is that both Spain and the U.K. are NATO members, meaning we're both obliged to defend each other in the event of hostile action. So if Spain attacked us Spain would be obliged to defend the UK from its own attack. And vice versa of course. What larks. |
Aye, I'm pretty certain that when bluey said we could take them in ten minutes he'd forgotten they were a NATO member. | | | |
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