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The only thing that is and will remain more of a heartbreak than seeing relegation, is seeing what has become of this guy, after all he has done. From the start of this, the most important constant is him. Yeah, I get that there may be really good reasons to be upset with him over the vague activities of this nightmare. But the way he has just been fully dismissed as a complete sellout and traitor is an absurd and unfairly tragic ending for a guy who has been mixed up in the center of a whirlwind since 2002.
This situation now is the fault in the new owners, maybe 80% if we're being generous, but who gives a squirt at that point? This is only because of the Bradley hire, and the points lost against bad teams at the end of that short disaster.
Which was just simply NOT Jenkins' decision.
I think Leviathon and the other guy are well meaning. They are less in this for the money than most of douchebags who own teams. But they made one big call, they brought us Bradley, which leaves us with a "other than the point blank shot in the back of your husband's head, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?" position to judge these &@+ing guys.
So, they fail. And I can't talk, because I loudly thought Brad Bobley would be a great Defensive Coordinator and Linebacker Coach, which leaves me euphoric that I will never be in charge of these kinds of decisions.
Huw Jenkins, after defining his life over the last dozen plus years, probably made some tough calls as a tired guy in a tough political position. He doesn't deserve worship, and he is not beyond reproach, but he deseves the benefit of the doubt over his intentions, most of all from the people who have enjoyed this journey.
I would bet my life that this season is killing him, as much as ANY of you. Pick him up, don't bury him. He has done his best, I believe. I touted Atom Bombley, but I am right this time.
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 21:20 - Apr 18 by londonlisa2001
If by that you mean you believe I was rude to you in my post, it wasn't meant as such. It was a statement of fact. You (and I said it was not your fault), cannot possibly have the same feelings about this situation as those who were around when it all happened.
Not because you're American, by the way - Davillin is as capable of commenting on this whole affair as anyone else, as he has supported the club for so long, and 'lived through' the whole takeover, Petty, 9th Floor etc back in the day. It's just that your knowledge (as you've said before) has been shaped or at least influenced by the fiction of JTAK.
Not disputing any of that.
But I've never given anyone reason to think I was ever "laughing at local Swans fans with a few of my countrymen when Bradley was appointed" and "wondering how long it would be before I could all 'laugh at the natives' when he did well." Again, I'm not the type to really give a crap if you have such a low opinion of me, but you couldn't be more wrong.
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 21:32 - Apr 18 by Tummer_from_Texas
Not disputing any of that.
But I've never given anyone reason to think I was ever "laughing at local Swans fans with a few of my countrymen when Bradley was appointed" and "wondering how long it would be before I could all 'laugh at the natives' when he did well." Again, I'm not the type to really give a crap if you have such a low opinion of me, but you couldn't be more wrong.
[Post edited 18 Apr 2017 21:33]
I don't have a low opinion of you. I found it annoying when you all had such a low opinion of us that you genuinely believed we were against Bradley because he was American, not because his track record made it so apparent that he would be a train wreck.
And I found it annoying to read social media posts from American supporters about the natives getting annoyed, as though we were a bunch of small minded localist imbeciles.
You were very far from being as bad about it as some of the others by the way.
Anyway, as I said, I wasn't trying to be rude. I was trying to state a fact, and my frustration about the whole situation probably means that comes across as rudeness.
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This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 00:49 - Apr 19 with 1496 views
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 16:56 - Apr 18 by Tummer_from_Texas
First and foremost, the new owners for the Bob Bradley hire.
Without that, we've still had a bad season, but likely without the danger of relegation.
Again, I don't think this means they are terrible guys who want to destroy the club, but that was a massive error, by them and any of us who thought it might be a good hire (ahem).
Jenkins has made mistakes too, no doubt, and there are legitimate reasons to be critical of his recent actions and lack thereof. The outright hate some seem to have for the guy, I think he deserves better. Just my opinion.
While I admire the view offered by the OP for its thoughtfulness I have to respectfully say it's completely off-base of the situation.
Jenkins essentially took sole credit of the Swans success for years, and he made quite the rounds in flaunting that success. The club's turnaround was and is portrayed as his masterstroke but the reality is there were far more individuals involved, and each played an integral role. Individuals can't do sshitt alone, and none of the fans were lucky enough to party with royalty like HJ. He played his part like many others, and he has actually been rewarded remarkably well for his efforts.
Since getting to the PL the club, under his direction, has chosen to exclusively bargain hunt from the reject bin; a strategy that has increasingly brought diminishing returns, depleting the level of talent within the squad to an unacceptable degree. He is a cheapskate who has deceptively leveraged his failed business "acumen" into being hailed as some sort of genius football mind thanks to being lucky a few times (Martinez, Rodgers, Michu), and he has sacked anyone who steals a bit of his spotlight. That will be his legacy: good for profits and return on investment, bad for the squad and football.
This is not even scratching the surface of the shady dealings with The Americans or the years of BS that precipitated and facilitated the sale ("next level", Jack to a King, etc.). 'The Swansea Way' was championed victoriously and then unceremoniously shunned by the same duplicitous individuals, all in the pursuit of greed. Those shameful "Jacks" then personally and substantially capitalized on that reputation and several, most of all Jenkins, continue to do so even after they made their fortunes.
According to The Americans he will remain for the foreseeable future. It may be that they would be more incompetent than HJ and make even worse decisions, but that shouldn't be his 'get out of jail free' card. His years of service to the club are admirable but he made his "facking" money and now he needs to "fack" off.
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This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 06:25 - Apr 19 with 1442 views
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 00:49 - Apr 19 by Nirvana
While I admire the view offered by the OP for its thoughtfulness I have to respectfully say it's completely off-base of the situation.
Jenkins essentially took sole credit of the Swans success for years, and he made quite the rounds in flaunting that success. The club's turnaround was and is portrayed as his masterstroke but the reality is there were far more individuals involved, and each played an integral role. Individuals can't do sshitt alone, and none of the fans were lucky enough to party with royalty like HJ. He played his part like many others, and he has actually been rewarded remarkably well for his efforts.
Since getting to the PL the club, under his direction, has chosen to exclusively bargain hunt from the reject bin; a strategy that has increasingly brought diminishing returns, depleting the level of talent within the squad to an unacceptable degree. He is a cheapskate who has deceptively leveraged his failed business "acumen" into being hailed as some sort of genius football mind thanks to being lucky a few times (Martinez, Rodgers, Michu), and he has sacked anyone who steals a bit of his spotlight. That will be his legacy: good for profits and return on investment, bad for the squad and football.
This is not even scratching the surface of the shady dealings with The Americans or the years of BS that precipitated and facilitated the sale ("next level", Jack to a King, etc.). 'The Swansea Way' was championed victoriously and then unceremoniously shunned by the same duplicitous individuals, all in the pursuit of greed. Those shameful "Jacks" then personally and substantially capitalized on that reputation and several, most of all Jenkins, continue to do so even after they made their fortunes.
According to The Americans he will remain for the foreseeable future. It may be that they would be more incompetent than HJ and make even worse decisions, but that shouldn't be his 'get out of jail free' card. His years of service to the club are admirable but he made his "facking" money and now he needs to "fack" off.
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 00:49 - Apr 19 by Nirvana
While I admire the view offered by the OP for its thoughtfulness I have to respectfully say it's completely off-base of the situation.
Jenkins essentially took sole credit of the Swans success for years, and he made quite the rounds in flaunting that success. The club's turnaround was and is portrayed as his masterstroke but the reality is there were far more individuals involved, and each played an integral role. Individuals can't do sshitt alone, and none of the fans were lucky enough to party with royalty like HJ. He played his part like many others, and he has actually been rewarded remarkably well for his efforts.
Since getting to the PL the club, under his direction, has chosen to exclusively bargain hunt from the reject bin; a strategy that has increasingly brought diminishing returns, depleting the level of talent within the squad to an unacceptable degree. He is a cheapskate who has deceptively leveraged his failed business "acumen" into being hailed as some sort of genius football mind thanks to being lucky a few times (Martinez, Rodgers, Michu), and he has sacked anyone who steals a bit of his spotlight. That will be his legacy: good for profits and return on investment, bad for the squad and football.
This is not even scratching the surface of the shady dealings with The Americans or the years of BS that precipitated and facilitated the sale ("next level", Jack to a King, etc.). 'The Swansea Way' was championed victoriously and then unceremoniously shunned by the same duplicitous individuals, all in the pursuit of greed. Those shameful "Jacks" then personally and substantially capitalized on that reputation and several, most of all Jenkins, continue to do so even after they made their fortunes.
According to The Americans he will remain for the foreseeable future. It may be that they would be more incompetent than HJ and make even worse decisions, but that shouldn't be his 'get out of jail free' card. His years of service to the club are admirable but he made his "facking" money and now he needs to "fack" off.
Oh look, Dav is back again.
I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 07:46 - Apr 19 by Neath_Jack
Oh look, Dav is back again.
Get a grip, man.
The level of paranoia from you and a few others on here is quite maddening. As I've said many times before, I'm not Dav or Dimi or whoever it is you're afraid of.
Just like you I'm a guy with an opinion on the Swans. If you have something of substance to say, say it. Otherwise, ffukk off back to Neath.
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This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 18:55 - Apr 19 with 1240 views
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 18:15 - Apr 19 by Nirvana
Get a grip, man.
The level of paranoia from you and a few others on here is quite maddening. As I've said many times before, I'm not Dav or Dimi or whoever it is you're afraid of.
Just like you I'm a guy with an opinion on the Swans. If you have something of substance to say, say it. Otherwise, ffukk off back to Neath.
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 07:53 - Apr 18 by Tummer_from_Texas
Yeah, clearly not being a real fan is why I'm at least open to the possibility that the guy who has worked his ass off for this club didn't suddenly turn into a piece of crap. Authentic random would have helped me with that, surely.
The sellouts did become c4nts overnight. No-one begrudged them making money but the whole point is that their actions have taken away the future stability and security of the club and that is unforgivable.
We were all in it together and as a true fan of Swansea city I can't fathom what they were thinking. Their decision was based purely on greed. If they were true fans motivated by the love of the club they would never have contemplated screwing over the Trust.
Personally, I have no sympathy for Jenkins and his merry men. I am really f4cking sick of all the negativity this has caused and want the c4nts to do the right thing and f4ck off out of the club sooner rather than later.
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This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 23:05 - Apr 19 with 1051 views
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 23:00 - Apr 19 by skacrazy
The sellouts did become c4nts overnight. No-one begrudged them making money but the whole point is that their actions have taken away the future stability and security of the club and that is unforgivable.
We were all in it together and as a true fan of Swansea city I can't fathom what they were thinking. Their decision was based purely on greed. If they were true fans motivated by the love of the club they would never have contemplated screwing over the Trust.
Personally, I have no sympathy for Jenkins and his merry men. I am really f4cking sick of all the negativity this has caused and want the c4nts to do the right thing and f4ck off out of the club sooner rather than later.
Huw and the board eat out weekly in the city.. with family, friends etc. No-one says a word.
Ranting on here is a waste of time.
I am as guilty as everyone else.
They are multi millionaires. Swans are in the shit.
They win . Fans lost.
Deep down... we have accepted it.
The Trust can't speak up... understandably embarrassed by what they let happen on their watch.
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 23:32 - Apr 19 by Pokerface
Huw and the board eat out weekly in the city.. with family, friends etc. No-one says a word.
Ranting on here is a waste of time.
I am as guilty as everyone else.
They are multi millionaires. Swans are in the shit.
They win . Fans lost.
Deep down... we have accepted it.
The Trust can't speak up... understandably embarrassed by what they let happen on their watch.
Shit happens.. live with it.
Where in Swansea do they eat out then?
""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make."
This is not Huw Jenkins' fault on 00:49 - Apr 19 by Nirvana
While I admire the view offered by the OP for its thoughtfulness I have to respectfully say it's completely off-base of the situation.
Jenkins essentially took sole credit of the Swans success for years, and he made quite the rounds in flaunting that success. The club's turnaround was and is portrayed as his masterstroke but the reality is there were far more individuals involved, and each played an integral role. Individuals can't do sshitt alone, and none of the fans were lucky enough to party with royalty like HJ. He played his part like many others, and he has actually been rewarded remarkably well for his efforts.
Since getting to the PL the club, under his direction, has chosen to exclusively bargain hunt from the reject bin; a strategy that has increasingly brought diminishing returns, depleting the level of talent within the squad to an unacceptable degree. He is a cheapskate who has deceptively leveraged his failed business "acumen" into being hailed as some sort of genius football mind thanks to being lucky a few times (Martinez, Rodgers, Michu), and he has sacked anyone who steals a bit of his spotlight. That will be his legacy: good for profits and return on investment, bad for the squad and football.
This is not even scratching the surface of the shady dealings with The Americans or the years of BS that precipitated and facilitated the sale ("next level", Jack to a King, etc.). 'The Swansea Way' was championed victoriously and then unceremoniously shunned by the same duplicitous individuals, all in the pursuit of greed. Those shameful "Jacks" then personally and substantially capitalized on that reputation and several, most of all Jenkins, continue to do so even after they made their fortunes.
According to The Americans he will remain for the foreseeable future. It may be that they would be more incompetent than HJ and make even worse decisions, but that shouldn't be his 'get out of jail free' card. His years of service to the club are admirable but he made his "facking" money and now he needs to "fack" off.
good postings
My methods are not favoured by some but by god i speak the truth.
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