| May "June General Election" 11:09 - Apr 18 with 3323 views | WxmJax |
July you say. I no lie, May say June.
Adiós Labour. |  |
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| May "June General Election" on 22:01 - Apr 18 with 733 views | blueytheblue |
| May "June General Election" on 21:54 - Apr 18 by exiledclaseboy |
I don't really care either way to be honest. The outcome of this election is a forgone conclusion abd no amount of debates will change it. . Except to say that if May had been in favour and Corbyn refusing your own position would be entirely reversed. |
Not at all.
I dislike TV debates immensely. You learn nothing new from them whatsoever other than most like to talk over each other ad nauseum.
Now someone like Paxman grilling each leader individually... sure. |  |
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| May "June General Election" on 22:07 - Apr 18 with 727 views | Edmundo |
| May "June General Election" on 17:07 - Apr 18 by Ebo |
Lie after lie with her Perch. She is pure evil. Corbyn has ruined her a few times at PMQT's if you care to watch, no wonder she does not want televised debates before the election as she is finding it hard to cover her lies. |
I watch PMQs every We'd and think overall the consensus of opinion from labour voters and viewers that May had managed to rebuff all his 'read e-mails' and missed many opportunities to challenge the government. Labour need a seriously clever and popular leader to stand a chance.....Oh and some decent policies that will be popular with the populace. |  |
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| May "June General Election" on 22:11 - Apr 18 with 723 views | Kerouac |
| May "June General Election" on 21:44 - Apr 18 by blueytheblue |
Except those televised debates are a farce. Nowhere near long enough to really go over things in minute detail so all you get is highly over prepared soundbites.
TV companies don't want a debate. They want the snarling nastiness, they want controversial comments. They wanted to see clashes, would love UKIP / Tories / Labour tearing lumps out of each other.
Take C4 news today - Farron's religious based views on homosexuality came up. Would C4 do the same to Muslim MPs who voted against same sex marriage for example? Of course not... C4 just want the big headline. Anything Tim "as popular as a cold mouldy fish finger" Farron said on topic will be ignored, C4 just wanted him painted as homophobic - an issue the majority won't be interested in.
TV debates reward style over substance.
Now, would some people like to see the debates? Sure - we've a borderline ADHD society these days hence the emergence of soundbite politics. Problem is, too many would judge only on said debates, rationale people would just consider them one part of the choice. |
"Take C4 news today - Farron's religious based views on homosexuality came up. Would C4 do the same to Muslim MPs who voted against same sex marriage for example? Of course not... C4 just want the big headline. Anything Tim "as popular as a cold mouldy fish finger" Farron said on topic will be ignored, C4 just wanted him painted as homophobic - an issue the majority won't be interested in."
- I was going to make the exact same point to Lisa on another thread but didn't because I couldn't be arsed with another multi-pager on Islam again.
It is double standards isn't it?
(....and yes, I don't like that he is religious, and it was one of the factors that led me to vote for Norman instead, and yes I find his style irritating and see him as somebody who might turn voters off etc.) |  |
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| May "June General Election" on 22:47 - Apr 18 with 695 views | Ebo |
| May "June General Election" on 22:07 - Apr 18 by Edmundo |
I watch PMQs every We'd and think overall the consensus of opinion from labour voters and viewers that May had managed to rebuff all his 'read e-mails' and missed many opportunities to challenge the government. Labour need a seriously clever and popular leader to stand a chance.....Oh and some decent policies that will be popular with the populace. |
Jeremy does have decent policies, trouble is the electorate are too thick and too brainwashed by Murdoch and populism to even notice. |  |
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| May "June General Election" on 06:49 - Apr 19 with 659 views | jack247 |
| May "June General Election" on 21:05 - Apr 18 by exiledclaseboy |
Possibly. But a televised debate may help some people decide who they feel would be best at running the country. |
Which is kind of my point. A bit like signing players based on who can do the best freestyle keepy up routine. Maybe that's what Jenkins does. | | | |
| May "June General Election" on 07:56 - Apr 19 with 630 views | raynor94 |
| May "June General Election" on 22:47 - Apr 18 by Ebo |
Jeremy does have decent policies, trouble is the electorate are too thick and too brainwashed by Murdoch and populism to even notice. |
So why don't a majority of Labour MP's think Corbyn has decent policies? one told him after yesterday's meeting there was still time for him to stand down |  |
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| May "June General Election" on 13:39 - Apr 19 with 597 views | Ebo |
| May "June General Election" on 07:56 - Apr 19 by raynor94 |
So why don't a majority of Labour MP's think Corbyn has decent policies? one told him after yesterday's meeting there was still time for him to stand down |
The majority of Labour members do though Rayn. it's the backstabbers who are holding back the Labour party not Jeremy Corbyn. He's had enough character assassinations to last a lifetime yet he is still here - why is that then if 'he is so weak'. | |
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| May "June General Election" on 14:07 - Apr 19 with 584 views | Lohengrin |
| May "June General Election" on 13:39 - Apr 19 by Ebo |
The majority of Labour members do though Rayn. it's the backstabbers who are holding back the Labour party not Jeremy Corbyn. He's had enough character assassinations to last a lifetime yet he is still here - why is that then if 'he is so weak'. |
Marvellous chap he is, Ebo. Personally I hope he remains Labour leader for life. |  |
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| May "June General Election" on 14:13 - Apr 19 with 572 views | perchrockjack |
Evil ...how John
If you think she is ,then you ve had a sheltered life
Most of the evil ponds Ive met in my life have been outstandingly evil
Trese is evil because you are a lefty ,which is fine ., but evil she is not.
Jeez ,even abbot isn't evil
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| May on 15:10 - Apr 19 with 558 views | WarwickHunt |
| May "June General Election" on 13:39 - Apr 19 by Ebo |
The majority of Labour members do though Rayn. it's the backstabbers who are holding back the Labour party not Jeremy Corbyn. He's had enough character assassinations to last a lifetime yet he is still here - why is that then if 'he is so weak'. |
He's strong within the Labour Party.
However, that means the square root of fûck all in the real world.
The "backstabbers" are just biding their time, they don't need to do anything to fûck Corbyn up. He's doing a grand job of that himself, ably abetted by McDonnell, Thornbury and Abbott.
Labour are currently 21% behind the Tories. The last time that happened was...
... go on, have a guess!
Here's a clue
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| May on 15:15 - Apr 19 with 550 views | blueytheblue |
| May on 15:10 - Apr 19 by WarwickHunt |
He's strong within the Labour Party.
However, that means the square root of fûck all in the real world.
The "backstabbers" are just biding their time, they don't need to do anything to fûck Corbyn up. He's doing a grand job of that himself, ably abetted by McDonnell, Thornbury and Abbott.
Labour are currently 21% behind the Tories. The last time that happened was...
... go on, have a guess!
Here's a clue
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Foot had a far greater intellect than Corbyn, that's for sure.
I liked Foot on a personal level, seemed a decent man. Leader? Never. Sadly history will note him for 1983.
Somewhat ironically, Foot was leading a party riddled with militant infiltrators, the kind of people who these days champion Corbyn. | |
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| May on 15:31 - Apr 19 with 531 views | WarwickHunt |
| May on 15:15 - Apr 19 by blueytheblue |
Foot had a far greater intellect than Corbyn, that's for sure.
I liked Foot on a personal level, seemed a decent man. Leader? Never. Sadly history will note him for 1983.
Somewhat ironically, Foot was leading a party riddled with militant infiltrators, the kind of people who these days champion Corbyn. |
Undoubtedly one of the greatest intellects but, as you say, never a leader. | | | |
| May on 15:37 - Apr 19 with 518 views | Lohengrin |
| May on 15:31 - Apr 19 by WarwickHunt |
Undoubtedly one of the greatest intellects but, as you say, never a leader. |
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| May "June General Election" on 15:38 - Apr 19 with 513 views | Ebo |
Hark at the 'experts'. | |
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| May "June General Election" on 15:43 - Apr 19 with 507 views | Private_Partz |
| May "June General Election" on 13:39 - Apr 19 by Ebo |
The majority of Labour members do though Rayn. it's the backstabbers who are holding back the Labour party not Jeremy Corbyn. He's had enough character assassinations to last a lifetime yet he is still here - why is that then if 'he is so weak'. |
Yep I agree with this. As soon any of them are challenged about what they disagree with in relation to current Labour Party polices they go very quiet. They just don't want to support the man, regardless of his huge support in the membership.
This in turn leads on to the character assignations via the media as they would rather pursue this line than report on the actual policies of the Party and debate those. |  |
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| May "June General Election" on 15:44 - Apr 19 with 506 views | Ebo |
| May "June General Election" on 15:43 - Apr 19 by Private_Partz |
Yep I agree with this. As soon any of them are challenged about what they disagree with in relation to current Labour Party polices they go very quiet. They just don't want to support the man, regardless of his huge support in the membership.
This in turn leads on to the character assignations via the media as they would rather pursue this line than report on the actual policies of the Party and debate those. |
Put it one way, if that was Theresa the Appease she would be long gone. | |
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