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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? 12:02 - Apr 20 with 1668 viewstrampie

People say Jesus was a socialist therefore if Jesus was living today in Wales its likely he would vote Plaid.

Anti austerity social justice party Plaid good, Brit Nat survival of the fittest austerity parties not so good.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:27 - Apr 20 with 276 viewstrampie

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:22 - Apr 20 by blueytheblue

Well, given "usury" was used as an excuse to persecute Jews, I'm wondering what trampie's view of it would be?

But, if you mean in the case of something like pay day loans, you can understand high interest rates. The loans are intended to be short term only. People take out loans they know they can't repay, deliberately defaulting expecting it to get written off. You can blame the lenders for lending it to high risk groups in the first instance, sure.


Do you think usury is a vile crime against humanity and a heinous sin ?

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:29 - Apr 20 with 271 viewsblueytheblue

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:27 - Apr 20 by trampie

Do you think usury is a vile crime against humanity and a heinous sin ?


Crime against humanity, sin?

Not really, no.

Not always particularly ethical, sure.

I'm sure the families of dead in Syria et al would be chuffed to know an interest rate of 146252% is morally equivalent to the slaughters of innocents though.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:29 - Apr 20 with 270 viewsLohengrin

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:27 - Apr 20 by trampie

Do you think usury is a vile crime against humanity and a heinous sin ?


In the same class of utter venality as Bethan Jenkins's wardrobe?

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:35 - Apr 20 with 262 viewstrampie

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:29 - Apr 20 by blueytheblue

Crime against humanity, sin?

Not really, no.

Not always particularly ethical, sure.

I'm sure the families of dead in Syria et al would be chuffed to know an interest rate of 146252% is morally equivalent to the slaughters of innocents though.


Are you saying you don't think usury is a sin ?

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:39 - Apr 20 with 259 viewsblueytheblue

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:35 - Apr 20 by trampie

Are you saying you don't think usury is a sin ?


Define sin.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:47 - Apr 20 with 249 viewstrampie

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:39 - Apr 20 by blueytheblue

Define sin.


Define sin you say:- An immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law, divine law being the will of God.

The major religions of the world think that usury is a sin, do you think usury is a sin blueytheblue ?

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:51 - Apr 20 with 248 viewsblueytheblue

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:47 - Apr 20 by trampie

Define sin you say:- An immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law, divine law being the will of God.

The major religions of the world think that usury is a sin, do you think usury is a sin blueytheblue ?


I wouldn't trampie because being an athiest I don't accept that definition of the word "sin".

High interest as a default I'd say is unethical. Where I don't find it unethical is when lending to high risk borrowers - and even then lending companies should be more risk averse and not lend to incredibly high risk borrowers.

Curious as to why you're so concerned about this, tbh. I'd presume it's nothing to do with the fact usury was a stick used in the past to persecute Jews.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:03 - Apr 20 with 241 viewstrampie

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:51 - Apr 20 by blueytheblue

I wouldn't trampie because being an athiest I don't accept that definition of the word "sin".

High interest as a default I'd say is unethical. Where I don't find it unethical is when lending to high risk borrowers - and even then lending companies should be more risk averse and not lend to incredibly high risk borrowers.

Curious as to why you're so concerned about this, tbh. I'd presume it's nothing to do with the fact usury was a stick used in the past to persecute Jews.


You [and waynekerr55] seem to know a lot about Jews, not that many of them in Wales is there ?, I take it you have Jewish family and friends ? to be going off about them all the time, what is the story with Jews and usury then blueytheblue ?

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:11 - Apr 20 with 239 viewsblueytheblue

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:03 - Apr 20 by trampie

You [and waynekerr55] seem to know a lot about Jews, not that many of them in Wales is there ?, I take it you have Jewish family and friends ? to be going off about them all the time, what is the story with Jews and usury then blueytheblue ?


You tell us, trampie.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:13 - Apr 20 with 238 viewswaynekerr55

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 14:15 - Apr 20 by trampie

When its said that the major religions of the world think usury is a sin, I wonder what blueytheblue and waynekerr55 think about that ?


I think "each to their own". I don't agree with them, but that's their opinion.

Now, I have some instant coffee to attend to...

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:14 - Apr 20 with 231 viewswaynekerr55

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:03 - Apr 20 by trampie

You [and waynekerr55] seem to know a lot about Jews, not that many of them in Wales is there ?, I take it you have Jewish family and friends ? to be going off about them all the time, what is the story with Jews and usury then blueytheblue ?


Living in Borehamwood and Watford whilst simultaneously working in Stanmore for 9 years allowed me to observe in depth our Hebrew and Shebrew brethren

You've got some chutzpah, fair play. Wasn't there a Synagogue in Ffynone? I remember going there when I was in Manselton School. They gave us Kosher Kit Kats'
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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:17 - Apr 20 with 221 viewswaynekerr55

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:11 - Apr 20 by blueytheblue

You tell us, trampie.



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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:19 - Apr 20 with 220 viewswaynekerr55

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 13:47 - Apr 20 by londonlisa2001

It's going to be a long seven weeks if Trampie starts endless threads about whether (insert name) would vote Plaid.

Who next?

Would the Easter Bunny vote Plaid?


You're on fire this week. Another worldy!




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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:21 - Apr 20 with 217 viewstrampie

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:11 - Apr 20 by blueytheblue

You tell us, trampie.


Interesting choice of phrase 'You tell us, trampie', you use there, its all these usernames you have got on the go that is confusing you isn't it , is waynekerr55 and you the same person ?, 'I'm not a Jew personally but you keep talking about Jews, are you, your family or friends Jews blueytheblue ? as you seem to link a lot of things to Jews for no apparent reason.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:24 - Apr 20 with 213 viewswaynekerr55

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:21 - Apr 20 by trampie

Interesting choice of phrase 'You tell us, trampie', you use there, its all these usernames you have got on the go that is confusing you isn't it , is waynekerr55 and you the same person ?, 'I'm not a Jew personally but you keep talking about Jews, are you, your family or friends Jews blueytheblue ? as you seem to link a lot of things to Jews for no apparent reason.


Yes we're the same person.

No, wait, we're not.
Who knows?

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:25 - Apr 20 with 209 viewsblueytheblue

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:21 - Apr 20 by trampie

Interesting choice of phrase 'You tell us, trampie', you use there, its all these usernames you have got on the go that is confusing you isn't it , is waynekerr55 and you the same person ?, 'I'm not a Jew personally but you keep talking about Jews, are you, your family or friends Jews blueytheblue ? as you seem to link a lot of things to Jews for no apparent reason.


"Are" not "is".

heritage / family heritage has been explained many times before.

You introduced the topic of "usury". I was pretty interested in your motivation for doing so, really, seemed a tad random even for you. I made an observation the concept has been used to persecute Jews quite a bit, in particular after the crusades.

Seems you're looking for something that isn't there.

Now back to my instant coffee.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:29 - Apr 20 with 195 viewstrampie

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:25 - Apr 20 by blueytheblue

"Are" not "is".

heritage / family heritage has been explained many times before.

You introduced the topic of "usury". I was pretty interested in your motivation for doing so, really, seemed a tad random even for you. I made an observation the concept has been used to persecute Jews quite a bit, in particular after the crusades.

Seems you're looking for something that isn't there.

Now back to my instant coffee.


You say your ''heritage / family heritage has been explained many times before''.

I haven't heard it, what's the story with your heritage/family heritage ?

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:32 - Apr 20 with 193 viewswaynekerr55

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:29 - Apr 20 by trampie

You say your ''heritage / family heritage has been explained many times before''.

I haven't heard it, what's the story with your heritage/family heritage ?


"Der shkutz"

As Lohengrin once called him.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:35 - Apr 20 with 183 viewsblueytheblue

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:32 - Apr 20 by waynekerr55

"Der shkutz"

As Lohengrin once called him.


I'm just a goy full of joy...

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:36 - Apr 20 with 182 viewswaynekerr55

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:35 - Apr 20 by blueytheblue

I'm just a goy full of joy...




Lets all wish Leanne "Mazel Tov"

She's gonna f*cking need it
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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:37 - Apr 20 with 177 viewsHighjack

Jesus might have been a skilled carpenter and a miracle worker but even he would struggle to make something useful out of Wood.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:39 - Apr 20 with 176 viewsLohengrin

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:32 - Apr 20 by waynekerr55

"Der shkutz"

As Lohengrin once called him.


You've got a memory on you!

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:41 - Apr 20 with 171 viewsLohengrin

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:37 - Apr 20 by Highjack

Jesus might have been a skilled carpenter and a miracle worker but even he would struggle to make something useful out of Wood.


Oh! well played, sir.

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:41 - Apr 20 with 168 viewswaynekerr55

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:39 - Apr 20 by Lohengrin

You've got a memory on you!


I was tempted to buy the book "does your Rabbi know you're here" to give to one of my mates.

One of the lads in work was teased by Dennis Wises' cousin. Used to call him J Rich as he said he looked like the Chairman of a club in a largely Hebrew part of Norf Laandan. But then I remembered that it could have been construed as anti-semtic and that Bluey Der Schutz would put me on ignore

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Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:44 - Apr 20 with 160 viewsblueytheblue

Would Jesus vote Plaid ? on 15:41 - Apr 20 by waynekerr55

I was tempted to buy the book "does your Rabbi know you're here" to give to one of my mates.

One of the lads in work was teased by Dennis Wises' cousin. Used to call him J Rich as he said he looked like the Chairman of a club in a largely Hebrew part of Norf Laandan. But then I remembered that it could have been construed as anti-semtic and that Bluey Der Schutz would put me on ignore


Might put you on a lot of things but ignore isn't one of them.

Which club? Lots of Jewish support for Arsenal.

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