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Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 21:04 - Apr 20 by Darran
A few more votes for Marine.
Maybe not, mister. Dutch people stopped last month going to extremes positions. French will calibrate sailing alone or walk together with EU members. We all are at the same vessel. They are going to rethink a lot their votes.
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Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 20:30 - Apr 21 with 908 views
Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 22:25 - Apr 20 by Tummer_from_Texas
Technically, I've heard it reported more recently that "Allahu Akbar" actually means "our God is greater (than yours)."
A subtle difference that shows the guiding principals of the great "religion of peace."
Also interesting how the mainstream American media (other than Fox, or course) reported the tragedy.
Going out of their way not to appear Islamophobic, even when it requires lying now.
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Ah, the old Breitbart translation. Our God is greater than yours.
They say it when their children are born or at times of great celebration. Do they mean their God is greater than their children's God?
What a load of complete crap. It means God is greater than everything else, including themselves.
As an aside, their God is the same God as the.Christian God, and the Jewish God. Arabic speaking Christians call God 'Allah' as well. Of course, Breitbart ignore that irritating fact as they rely on their readers being so stupid they don't know.
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Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 20:52 - Apr 21 with 885 views
Some tragic irony: the victim, 37 year old Paris cop Xavier Jugele, was interviewed last November when Sting performed at the Bataclan when it reopened.
“I’m happy to be here,” Xavier Jugele, a 37-year-old Paris policeman told PEOPLE at the event. “Glad the Bataclan is reopening. It’s symbolic. We’re here tonight as witnesses. Here to defend our civic values. This concert’s to celebrate life. To say no to terrorists.”
“It doesn’t feel strange, it feels important,” he continued. “Symbolic.”
Jugele also revealed that he had visited the venue many times before the attack and was one of the many police officers who responded to the attack. “But outside,” he stressed.
Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 01:13 - Apr 21 by Nirvana
Lisa, you really don't think Islamic terrorism has anything to do with Islam? Genuine question looking for a genuine answer.
It can't all be blamed on mental illness or low intelligence. Being mentally ill does not mean you are more likely to commit violence, especially directed at others, and it is wrong to immediately jump to such a conclusion. It is incredibly damaging to anyone with a mental illness, and stigmatizes any conversation on the issue. The vast majority are not violent and would never knowingly hurt anybody. They are not frothing at the mouth at the thought of being suicide bombers and receiving 70 virgins.
Additionally, you don't see any other religion in the entire world that essentially manufactures entire armies willing to give their life to destroy nonbelievers. ISIS, al-qaida, Al-Shabab, the Taliban, the list truly does go on and on. These aren't little squadrons either, and many of them enjoy freedom, prosperity and popularity in their areas of power.
I understand Western nations have had a big hand in helping proliferate terrorism to advance their own interests (the Mujahideen; being close allies and funders of the Sauds; helping prop up unpopular, corrupt dictators for decades, etc.), but to collectively put our heads in the sand and ignore reality is a dangerous game to play. There is clearly something happening here, and it revolves around the Islamic religion.
Most Muslims are not terrorists, obviously, and they shouldn't be slandered as such. But even moderates have some pretty backwards and misogynistic views, and they are extremely prevalent across the Muslim world. Sharia law is triumphed, women (such as yourself) are subjected to ridiculous and inhumane customs and traditions, minorities are oppressed, life is cheap, and punishments are straight medieval. The penalty for leaving the religion in most Islamic countries? Stoned to death. The penalty for being gay? Stoned to death. Everything falls along those lines too, they are not random outliers.
Understanding and compassion are one thing. Disregarding reality and remaining willfully ignorant of the current state of the world does not accomplish anything. You can't even draw Muhammad or you face the legitimate threat of being horrifically killed in your workplace.
It's the truth, and it's not gonna go away.
The people at the top of organisations like IS have zero interest in religion. It's all about power, and money.
They use a hugely distorted view of religion to attract disaffected morons, and brainwash them into supporting 'jihad' as a recruiting tool. If you look at the background of the terrorists they have claimed responsibility for, hardly any, if any, have any sort of religious background. In fact, most are previously petty criminals, are known to have lived quite spectacularly non-devout lives, in many cases are converts who wouldn't know the first thing about the religion they are killing (and dying) for, other than the propaganda they've been fed.
If you look at the attack in Paris yesterday, which was appalling, then the bloke was first done for exactly the same thing in 2001 or so. Yet we are supposed to believe he is IS? IS wasn't even around in 2001. He's just a criminal minded monster who jumped onto a bandwagon. If it wasn't this bandwagon it would have been another one. The attack in London a few weeks ago. IS claimed him as one of theirs, yet didn't have a clue who he was until the police released his details. These people use religion as a cloak and an excuse. Much the same as the KKK burn crosses. It's all about what it's always about - land, resources, power, money. What they are trying to do, is to turn it into a Holy War. Because if IS were just seen as a bunch of people trying to grab land, no one outside their immediate area would support them. If they can turn it into a religious thing, they have a potential support of over a billion people, who are suddenly part of 'their side'. And the more that we, as non Moslems, also make it about religion, it aids them in their battle for support.
There are very few things people are prepared to die for. A land grab in the Middle East is certainly not one of them. But you will persuade a few to support if it's seen as being in the name of religion.
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Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 21:30 - Apr 21 with 859 views
Chill folks, don't let the press and news media let you get all wound up about it.
There's no need to feel the least bit afraid of these terrorists. The police force in Swansea have done an excellent job in keeping us safe from them.
If you can fill the unforgiving minute.
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
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Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 17:28 - Apr 24 with 767 views
Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 21:04 - Apr 21 by londonlisa2001
The people at the top of organisations like IS have zero interest in religion. It's all about power, and money.
They use a hugely distorted view of religion to attract disaffected morons, and brainwash them into supporting 'jihad' as a recruiting tool. If you look at the background of the terrorists they have claimed responsibility for, hardly any, if any, have any sort of religious background. In fact, most are previously petty criminals, are known to have lived quite spectacularly non-devout lives, in many cases are converts who wouldn't know the first thing about the religion they are killing (and dying) for, other than the propaganda they've been fed.
If you look at the attack in Paris yesterday, which was appalling, then the bloke was first done for exactly the same thing in 2001 or so. Yet we are supposed to believe he is IS? IS wasn't even around in 2001. He's just a criminal minded monster who jumped onto a bandwagon. If it wasn't this bandwagon it would have been another one. The attack in London a few weeks ago. IS claimed him as one of theirs, yet didn't have a clue who he was until the police released his details. These people use religion as a cloak and an excuse. Much the same as the KKK burn crosses. It's all about what it's always about - land, resources, power, money. What they are trying to do, is to turn it into a Holy War. Because if IS were just seen as a bunch of people trying to grab land, no one outside their immediate area would support them. If they can turn it into a religious thing, they have a potential support of over a billion people, who are suddenly part of 'their side'. And the more that we, as non Moslems, also make it about religion, it aids them in their battle for support.
There are very few things people are prepared to die for. A land grab in the Middle East is certainly not one of them. But you will persuade a few to support if it's seen as being in the name of religion.
Thanks for the response Lisa.
I agree with you on several points raised and largely on what is happening (power, money, land grab, recruitment) and the whole issue, much like the Middle East, is a murky mess with no clear answers. But I very sharply disagree with you on why exactly its occurring.
Yes, while ISIS may be motivated by power, land, etc. I believe their interests are far more religious than you have described. But again, Islamic terrorism/extremism is more than just ISIS. There are a multitude of these groups and they have existed for quite some time. The new kids on the block do not speak for the global jihadist/Islamist movement, and they are certainly not the only ones with power. No, ISIS wasn't around in 2001 but do you remember 9/11 whatsoever? That wasn't them either.
A lot of the biographical information you described actually sounds a lot like suicide bombers or foot soldiers, not most jihadists/Islamists. Just like actual militaries, they aren't placing their best and brightest on the frontlines simply to die. Thus, many of the "disaffected morons" we see and read about are just cannon fodder for the enemy, and easily digestible stories for the media and public. But to your point, there do seem to be a lot more of those 'disaffected morons' throughout the Muslim world than elsewhere. I wonder why? Could it possibly have something to do with the religion and how backwards it is? I believe so, and the facts back this up.
But I'm of the opinion that most actual jihadists are not morons. They are rather educated and sophisticated, and willingly choose to fight the 'infidels' because it provides them with a purpose: to serve ALLAH. This aspect is the key that is consistently overlooked (intentionally). God is worth dying for as you said but you don't see any other religions committing these acts anywhere close to the same scale or frequency. Why? Because Islam is inherently violent and misogynistic, and has not cleansed itself of fundamentalism the same way other Abrahamic faiths have. I will repeat for clarity: no other religion has complete armies ready and willing to do anything in the name of their God.
It is also a strawman argument to use the KKK as an example. They are an extremely fringe white nationalist group in one country and not a religious one, and have never had anywhere near the level of influence global jihadis/Islamists enjoy now. Not to mention they've never actually controlled anything at all, whereas entire regions of the world are ruled under Sharia law. Look it up when you get a chance, if you haven't. It's quite shocking to live under, especially if you are a woman.
And yes, the terrorists are aided by xenophobic Westerners to an extent, but the biggest problem is the complete lack of dialogue within the Muslim world. Where exactly are all these peace-loving, progressive Muslims and why are they not given more of a platform to express their views? The answer is they are far outnumbered by hardliners and moderates with controversial beliefs, and they are silenced through intimidation and violence in their own countries. A simple Google search would provide you with plenty to read on this subject.
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Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 17:42 - Apr 24 with 748 views
Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 20:30 - Apr 21 by londonlisa2001
Ah, the old Breitbart translation. Our God is greater than yours.
They say it when their children are born or at times of great celebration. Do they mean their God is greater than their children's God?
What a load of complete crap. It means God is greater than everything else, including themselves.
As an aside, their God is the same God as the.Christian God, and the Jewish God. Arabic speaking Christians call God 'Allah' as well. Of course, Breitbart ignore that irritating fact as they rely on their readers being so stupid they don't know.
I honestly don't know why you bother trying to educate these clowns.
Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 01:13 - Apr 21 by Nirvana
Lisa, you really don't think Islamic terrorism has anything to do with Islam? Genuine question looking for a genuine answer.
It can't all be blamed on mental illness or low intelligence. Being mentally ill does not mean you are more likely to commit violence, especially directed at others, and it is wrong to immediately jump to such a conclusion. It is incredibly damaging to anyone with a mental illness, and stigmatizes any conversation on the issue. The vast majority are not violent and would never knowingly hurt anybody. They are not frothing at the mouth at the thought of being suicide bombers and receiving 70 virgins.
Additionally, you don't see any other religion in the entire world that essentially manufactures entire armies willing to give their life to destroy nonbelievers. ISIS, al-qaida, Al-Shabab, the Taliban, the list truly does go on and on. These aren't little squadrons either, and many of them enjoy freedom, prosperity and popularity in their areas of power.
I understand Western nations have had a big hand in helping proliferate terrorism to advance their own interests (the Mujahideen; being close allies and funders of the Sauds; helping prop up unpopular, corrupt dictators for decades, etc.), but to collectively put our heads in the sand and ignore reality is a dangerous game to play. There is clearly something happening here, and it revolves around the Islamic religion.
Most Muslims are not terrorists, obviously, and they shouldn't be slandered as such. But even moderates have some pretty backwards and misogynistic views, and they are extremely prevalent across the Muslim world. Sharia law is triumphed, women (such as yourself) are subjected to ridiculous and inhumane customs and traditions, minorities are oppressed, life is cheap, and punishments are straight medieval. The penalty for leaving the religion in most Islamic countries? Stoned to death. The penalty for being gay? Stoned to death. Everything falls along those lines too, they are not random outliers.
Understanding and compassion are one thing. Disregarding reality and remaining willfully ignorant of the current state of the world does not accomplish anything. You can't even draw Muhammad or you face the legitimate threat of being horrifically killed in your workplace.
It's the truth, and it's not gonna go away.
The vast majority of muslims are not violent and would never knowingly hurt anybody. They are not frothing at the mouth at the thought of being suicide bombers and receiving 70 virgins.
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Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 14:27 - Apr 25 with 558 views
Another suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris on 02:07 - Apr 25 by PURe_Evil
The vast majority of muslims are not violent and would never knowingly hurt anybody. They are not frothing at the mouth at the thought of being suicide bombers and receiving 70 virgins.
No, and I never said or implied they were, but that's one hell of a false equivalency. In fact, read down to the 5th paragraph of my post you responded to and you will find what I did write about this. Perhaps you missed it? It begins, "Most Muslims are not terrorists, obviously, and shouldn't be slandered as such..."
And keep in mind, I was only addressing mental illness at all because it was used as the main justification for Islamic terrorism, and to dismiss any criticism of the religion. But again, most Muslims are not terrorists and that was not my argument. The root of terrorism/extremism lies within Islam itself, not insanity, and that was my point. It is but one rather large problem within the Muslim world, and there are plenty more.
Care to take a swing at defending anything else I brought up?
- Do you think you'd support your government adopting Sharia law? - Do you think your wife (real or imaginary) should be forced to require your guardianship and a burqa everywhere she goes? - Do you think it should be illegal, and punishable by death, to be gay? - Is it acceptable in the 21st century to be publicly beheading people that are convicted of crimes like "witchcraft and sorcery"? - Would you live in an Islamic country?
I can continue if you like but I'm interested to see if you have a snarky response to each of these first.
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