| Tory manifesto - discuss 07:38 - May 18 with 16328 views | epaul |
To end free school meals for infants, for some it's the only hot meal they get, dispicable scum
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The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 18:27 - May 18 with 999 views | Onslow |
I'd hoof that Laura Kuenssberg |  |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 18:29 - May 18 with 995 views | blueytheblue |
To get back to the original post, free school meals aren't going.
They are being means tested.
Meaning help goes to those who genuinely need it.
Which I thought Labourites would applaud... |  |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 18:32 - May 18 with 992 views | rock1n |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 18:29 - May 18 by blueytheblue |
To get back to the original post, free school meals aren't going.
They are being means tested.
Meaning help goes to those who genuinely need it.
Which I thought Labourites would applaud... |
I didn't realise the tory manifesto was just to cut school meals.
The b@rstards.
I'm bored of arguing with the permanently offended, let them rage about tories for a month. Think I'm going to have a break for a while. [Post edited 18 May 2017 18:33]
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:02 - May 18 with 963 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I'm amazed that free school meals for any child was implemented in the first place. What a waste of money. Giving them to families on low income is great. But not everybody else. If you earn enough to not qualify under the means test formula and your child is not capable of receiving a 'hot meal' at home, social services should probably get involved. |  |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:05 - May 18 with 958 views | Neath_Jack |
Has anyone mentioned people smoking, having large screen tv's or iphones yet? They must have done. |  |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:06 - May 18 with 954 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:05 - May 18 by Neath_Jack |
Has anyone mentioned people smoking, having large screen tv's or iphones yet? They must have done. |
Give it time. |  |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:16 - May 18 with 931 views | swanjackal |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:02 - May 18 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I'm amazed that free school meals for any child was implemented in the first place. What a waste of money. Giving them to families on low income is great. But not everybody else. If you earn enough to not qualify under the means test formula and your child is not capable of receiving a 'hot meal' at home, social services should probably get involved. |
Also, kids in this country are a bit shite. . Light years behind other countries in skills. I mean some 10 year olds can make some cracking knocked off Nike clobber in Asia, ours can't even boil an egg. Shambles. [Post edited 18 May 2017 19:21]
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:18 - May 18 with 923 views | Jango |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:02 - May 18 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I'm amazed that free school meals for any child was implemented in the first place. What a waste of money. Giving them to families on low income is great. But not everybody else. If you earn enough to not qualify under the means test formula and your child is not capable of receiving a 'hot meal' at home, social services should probably get involved. |
There's nurses currently using food banks so where do we draw the line? | | | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:20 - May 18 with 921 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:18 - May 18 by Jango |
There's nurses currently using food banks so where do we draw the line? |
Bluey in five, four, three... | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:23 - May 18 with 907 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:20 - May 18 by exiledclaseboy |
Bluey in five, four, three... |
Bluey is doing more than anyone could possibly imagine to persuade me to vote for Corbyn, but that story about nurses and food banks actually turned out to be utter nonsense. | | | |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:23 - May 18 with 903 views | Nogginthenog |
Reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, now that is not at all ambiguous, and as usual with Tories completely unachievable and unwanted at the same time. File manifesto under lying cheating bast**ds. |  | | |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:25 - May 18 with 900 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:23 - May 18 by Nogginthenog |
Reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, now that is not at all ambiguous, and as usual with Tories completely unachievable and unwanted at the same time. File manifesto under lying cheating bast**ds. |
It's not ambiguous. It means less than 100,000.
It is both unachieveable and unwanted, however. | | | |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:26 - May 18 with 896 views | rock1n |
The whole free school food thing plays into a view of society and how you want it organised.
Those that believe families should be responsible, or those that believe the State should regulate lives.
No family worth their salt would let their kid go to school hungry, look at some of the heroines of the old days - when War was raging and there was a coupons. We're a decadent feckless society now. | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:26 - May 18 with 893 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:23 - May 18 by londonlisa2001 |
Bluey is doing more than anyone could possibly imagine to persuade me to vote for Corbyn, but that story about nurses and food banks actually turned out to be utter nonsense. |
I did laugh at the first part of that. I've no uses about the second part. But if I was putting together a Bluey bingo card the words "nurses" and "food banks " works be two if the entries. | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:31 - May 18 with 886 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:26 - May 18 by rock1n |
The whole free school food thing plays into a view of society and how you want it organised.
Those that believe families should be responsible, or those that believe the State should regulate lives.
No family worth their salt would let their kid go to school hungry, look at some of the heroines of the old days - when War was raging and there was a coupons. We're a decadent feckless society now. |
I don't think it's anywhere near as binary as your second sentence, which is overly simplistic and fatuous. The balance must be to provide the support where it's needed. Means testing is a blunt instrument that often doesn't achieve that. Sometimes it has the opposite effect. | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:32 - May 18 with 879 views | blueytheblue |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:26 - May 18 by exiledclaseboy |
I did laugh at the first part of that. I've no uses about the second part. But if I was putting together a Bluey bingo card the words "nurses" and "food banks " works be two if the entries. |
Don't think I've ever mentioned "food banks" tbh. | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:36 - May 18 with 866 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:26 - May 18 by rock1n |
The whole free school food thing plays into a view of society and how you want it organised.
Those that believe families should be responsible, or those that believe the State should regulate lives.
No family worth their salt would let their kid go to school hungry, look at some of the heroines of the old days - when War was raging and there was a coupons. We're a decadent feckless society now. |
Firstly it's not the fault of any child if their family is feckless and irresponsible. Secondly, it has little if anything to do with income.
There are many families who would fall well into the camp of financially requiring assistance who wouldn't dream of letting their children be badly fed or hungry. Similarly there are many who have plenty of money who feed them utter crap because they're lazy wasters. | | | |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:42 - May 18 with 851 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Any good ones then ?
Nobody coming forward at the minute tonight. |  |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:43 - May 18 with 848 views | blueytheblue |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:36 - May 18 by londonlisa2001 |
Firstly it's not the fault of any child if their family is feckless and irresponsible. Secondly, it has little if anything to do with income.
There are many families who would fall well into the camp of financially requiring assistance who wouldn't dream of letting their children be badly fed or hungry. Similarly there are many who have plenty of money who feed them utter crap because they're lazy wasters. |
Agree on both points, Lisa.
At the end of the day, when resources are finite then they have to be applied where they help the best. In the case where poverty is the root cause, then free meals are required. In the case where parents can pay for school meals / provide a lunch but are just too lazy, then they need to be educated, preferrably with a baseball bat. | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:50 - May 18 with 828 views | dailew |
Means testing is bad.
Over complicates and costs to implement.
Hits people on the divide disproportionately.
Discourages people to be responsible and save.
Rich people pay more in tax anyway so let them have it as well. |  |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:51 - May 18 with 827 views | perchrockjack |
How did they manage before food banks
Just after the war things were tight on a scale kids now couldn't contemplate and no mobiles, tv , games
Poor people weren't fat either
Possibly as they had parents who wanted them in the first place and not to help get them a house .
Could have been people knew how to cook a meal using wholesome ,cheap ingredients ,without being covered in salt and sugar | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:59 - May 18 with 813 views | pikeypaul |
I think she will lose a lot of the all important grey vote after today.
Not defining the conditions of the means testing to recieve the Winter
fuel payments will make a lot of pensioners nervous,especially the ones
who use it to help pay for Christmas which sadly there are a lot of.
The Land registry are also going to be very busy in the next couple of years
with the value of the house in excess of £100k going to pay for care.The
forward thinking and savvy will take precautions to ensure they do not fall
into this category.The people who will suffer are the unprepared who have
not planned,a bit like tax avoidance and tax evasion there is always a way around things totally legally.Conveyancing solicitors will be celebrating tonight.
Regarding the removing of the "at least 2.5% " part of the triple lock on state pension that'
will be irrelevant if as forecast inflation is above 2.5% which the "double lock" takes in to account.
I am not affected by any of the above and my household will still vote Conservative (Labour 2015)
on June 8th but a lot around the country will have changed today.The polls on the weekend will be interesting. [Post edited 18 May 2017 20:22]
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 20:18 - May 18 with 781 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Tory manifesto - discuss on 19:59 - May 18 by pikeypaul |
I think she will lose a lot of the all important grey vote after today.
Not defining the conditions of the means testing to recieve the Winter
fuel payments will make a lot of pensioners nervous,especially the ones
who use it to help pay for Christmas which sadly there are a lot of.
The Land registry are also going to be very busy in the next couple of years
with the value of the house in excess of £100k going to pay for care.The
forward thinking and savvy will take precautions to ensure they do not fall
into this category.The people who will suffer are the unprepared who have
not planned,a bit like tax avoidance and tax evasion there is always a way around things totally legally.Conveyancing solicitors will be celebrating tonight.
Regarding the removing of the "at least 2.5% " part of the triple lock on state pension that'
will be irrelevant if as forecast inflation is above 2.5% which the "double lock" takes in to account.
I am not affected by any of the above and my household will still vote Conservative (Labour 2015)
on June 8th but a lot around the country will have changed today.The polls on the weekend will be interesting. [Post edited 18 May 2017 20:22]
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I think Theresa and her party have done a terrible job so far. If the opposition were credible she would be in a lot of trouble. So many comments and policies that alienate so many. | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 20:21 - May 18 with 773 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Some good points
Spend spend spend
If you've got it spend it , because they'll have it when your p!ssing your pants or can't remember where you are .
These people are in charge of the country
They are inept
They are clueless | |
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| Tory manifesto - discuss on 20:22 - May 18 with 771 views | rock1n |
Bottom line is pensioners who voted for brexit will lose their triple lock.
Deficit because of brexit will not be cleared until 2025
etc etc
To me the manifesto is thoroughly average, nothing to move mountains. Just ploddy.
The next 5 yrs will be consumed by self harm. | |
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