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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. 11:27 - May 19 with 4707 viewstrampie

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad after last nights no show by Corbyn and May at the leaders debate.

#weak and unstable.


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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 11:42 - May 19 with 2338 viewstrampie

Vote Plaid in Wales
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Vote SNP in Scotland

Has got to be the way to go.

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 11:50 - May 19 with 2329 viewsPegojack

I'd like to say it was arrogance on both their behalves, but of course it wasn't.

It was cold, calculating, cynical political maneuvering.

In May's case, the less the lemmings see of you and actually think about your policies, the more they will swallow the shallow slogans - strong and stable.

In Corbyn's case, the less they see of him, the less they will register the fact that he hasn't got a leadership bone in his body.
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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:00 - May 19 with 2319 viewstrampie

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 11:50 - May 19 by Pegojack

I'd like to say it was arrogance on both their behalves, but of course it wasn't.

It was cold, calculating, cynical political maneuvering.

In May's case, the less the lemmings see of you and actually think about your policies, the more they will swallow the shallow slogans - strong and stable.

In Corbyn's case, the less they see of him, the less they will register the fact that he hasn't got a leadership bone in his body.


Yes herefordjack its shocking, its the year 2017, America has them, France has them, we now have them and the Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition both don't bother to turn up to make their case to the country and debate the other party leaders.

The free press should be telling people not to vote Conservative or Labour on the back of this disgraceful no show, they show no respect for the public so the public should not back them.
Instead the press will back one or the other to the hilt [one more than the other but that's a different story].

The public is being manipulated by the powers that be.
[Post edited 19 May 2017 12:02]

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:09 - May 19 with 2300 viewsraynor94

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:00 - May 19 by trampie

Yes herefordjack its shocking, its the year 2017, America has them, France has them, we now have them and the Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition both don't bother to turn up to make their case to the country and debate the other party leaders.

The free press should be telling people not to vote Conservative or Labour on the back of this disgraceful no show, they show no respect for the public so the public should not back them.
Instead the press will back one or the other to the hilt [one more than the other but that's a different story].

The public is being manipulated by the powers that be.
[Post edited 19 May 2017 12:02]


I'm one of the mad ones, Tramps

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:13 - May 19 with 2292 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 11:42 - May 19 by trampie

Vote Plaid in Wales
Vote Green in England
Vote SNP in Scotland

Has got to be the way to go.


Yes. If you want a rampant conservative victory which will then sek to outlaw other political parties because of their irrelevance.

A non vote for Labour is handing the tories victory. Wake up.

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:34 - May 19 with 2275 viewsblueytheblue

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:13 - May 19 by Brynmill_Jack

Yes. If you want a rampant conservative victory which will then sek to outlaw other political parties because of their irrelevance.

A non vote for Labour is handing the tories victory. Wake up.


Any evidence behind the utterly bonkers "will then sek to outlaw other political parties because of their irrelevance" line?

EDIT:

It sums up the state of Labour that their focus seems to be looking for reasons to vote against Tories rather than looking for reasons to vote Labour...
[Post edited 19 May 2017 12:36]

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 13:06 - May 19 with 2239 viewsburty

whatever mate people voted to leave the eu and were leaving but the difference is the tories want a hard brexit with means no worked rights more cuts for the elite corporations and more austerity till 2025 wake up austerity is failing cuts dont effect the rich only the poor.
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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 13:17 - May 19 with 2229 viewsdickythorpe

TO start with I was glad they didnt turn up as others would be able to speak and be heard....then as it went on I thought feck me!!!!!
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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 14:00 - May 19 with 2195 viewssherpajacob

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:34 - May 19 by blueytheblue

Any evidence behind the utterly bonkers "will then sek to outlaw other political parties because of their irrelevance" line?

EDIT:

It sums up the state of Labour that their focus seems to be looking for reasons to vote against Tories rather than looking for reasons to vote Labour...
[Post edited 19 May 2017 12:36]


As opposed to a conservative pm, whom when asked an uncomfortable question, simply says Jeremy corbyn , Jeremy corbyn, Jeremy corbyn.

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 14:36 - May 19 with 2169 viewsEbo

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:34 - May 19 by blueytheblue

Any evidence behind the utterly bonkers "will then sek to outlaw other political parties because of their irrelevance" line?

EDIT:

It sums up the state of Labour that their focus seems to be looking for reasons to vote against Tories rather than looking for reasons to vote Labour...
[Post edited 19 May 2017 12:36]


These are the kind of people you are voting for Bluey. You should be very ashamed:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-deputy-mayor-owen-lister-558677

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 14:53 - May 19 with 2152 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

So we do not want our health service going the same way as in the United States. However, some desperately want to see our democratic process head in their direction, such as with live television debates. These debates do absolutely nothing to show how competent a leader will be. It is a battle of who is the quickest thinker on the spot. In reality, a Prime Minister will be surrounded with experts and advisers when making any key decisions, not a micro managed audience and a question master asking pre planned questions.

Let's not forget that in the most recent US elections, Hilary Clinton cheated as her team were provided with many of the questions in advance. I'd suspect that sort of cheating would happen here too.

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 15:42 - May 19 with 2117 viewsblueytheblue

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 14:36 - May 19 by Ebo

These are the kind of people you are voting for Bluey. You should be very ashamed:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-deputy-mayor-owen-lister-558677


I should be very ashamed?

Stop being an idiot.

You want to extrapolate f*ckwits like that to generalise all Tories; makes you as bad as him, politicising dumb comments.

Given I've a young son with special needs, his comments were disgusting and quite frankly, if he said them to my face he'd struggle to count remaining teeth after getting punched. Repeatedly...

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 16:23 - May 19 with 2091 viewssherpajacob

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 15:42 - May 19 by blueytheblue

I should be very ashamed?

Stop being an idiot.

You want to extrapolate f*ckwits like that to generalise all Tories; makes you as bad as him, politicising dumb comments.

Given I've a young son with special needs, his comments were disgusting and quite frankly, if he said them to my face he'd struggle to count remaining teeth after getting punched. Repeatedly...


For which party should the people of Swindon vote in council elections?

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 16:37 - May 19 with 2080 viewsblueytheblue

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 16:23 - May 19 by sherpajacob

For which party should the people of Swindon vote in council elections?


People of Swindon should vote for the candidates representing their views in council elections. Same as everywhere.

Local elections tend to be local. Local issues are the key.

General elections are more about overall government.

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 17:47 - May 19 with 2044 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:34 - May 19 by blueytheblue

Any evidence behind the utterly bonkers "will then sek to outlaw other political parties because of their irrelevance" line?

EDIT:

It sums up the state of Labour that their focus seems to be looking for reasons to vote against Tories rather than looking for reasons to vote Labour...
[Post edited 19 May 2017 12:36]


The remark about a one party sate was flippant but practically true as the mandate the Tories will have will be massive, therefore they will be able to run riot pushing through the privatization of the health service and ruining what's left of social care.

There are a manifesto full of reason for why to vote Labour. And they're costed.
There are no costing in the Tory manifesto but that shows their arrogance and utter contempt they hold the British people in.

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 18:10 - May 19 with 2027 viewsblueytheblue

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 17:47 - May 19 by Brynmill_Jack

The remark about a one party sate was flippant but practically true as the mandate the Tories will have will be massive, therefore they will be able to run riot pushing through the privatization of the health service and ruining what's left of social care.

There are a manifesto full of reason for why to vote Labour. And they're costed.
There are no costing in the Tory manifesto but that shows their arrogance and utter contempt they hold the British people in.


Privatisation of NHS. So we keep hearing. Of course the bulk of PFI abuses were under Labour.

Labour's costings are as usual in La-La-Land. Yes, hit businesses heavily. No businesses will leave Britain after all... no jobs would possibly be lost. Nationalisation? No possible costs involved there either...

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 18:35 - May 19 with 2007 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 18:10 - May 19 by blueytheblue

Privatisation of NHS. So we keep hearing. Of course the bulk of PFI abuses were under Labour.

Labour's costings are as usual in La-La-Land. Yes, hit businesses heavily. No businesses will leave Britain after all... no jobs would possibly be lost. Nationalisation? No possible costs involved there either...


Pfi was the insidious Blair and Brown project. Thankfully the manifesto is back to a socialist programme now.

Yes Bluey, you keep convincing yourself that St Teresa is going to reduce the deficit (now up to 1.7 trillion pounds, doubled under a Tory regime after they promised austerity would pay it all off). Only this time she's turned her attention to the Elderly and schoolkids as well as the disabled!

What makes me laugh is that people fall for this sh*t time and again. We're all being shafted but at least some of us realize what is happening.

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 18:51 - May 19 with 1991 viewsPrivate_Partz

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 11:50 - May 19 by Pegojack

I'd like to say it was arrogance on both their behalves, but of course it wasn't.

It was cold, calculating, cynical political maneuvering.

In May's case, the less the lemmings see of you and actually think about your policies, the more they will swallow the shallow slogans - strong and stable.

In Corbyn's case, the less they see of him, the less they will register the fact that he hasn't got a leadership bone in his body.


Corbyn did not want to avoid the debate. He challenged the coward May to turn up.
I agree with him. What is the point of all the other parties tearing each other a new one when she sits in her glass Palace untouched.
Apart from UKIP there is not a mass of difference between the Greens, Lib Dems and Labour. Neither are ther huge differences between Plaid and the SNP other than the obvious 'I' word. All have massive issues with the Tories though. Their nearest ally is UKIP (says it all really).
Such debates without May and her scripts in attendance are completely pointless

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 19:04 - May 19 with 1979 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 18:35 - May 19 by Brynmill_Jack

Pfi was the insidious Blair and Brown project. Thankfully the manifesto is back to a socialist programme now.

Yes Bluey, you keep convincing yourself that St Teresa is going to reduce the deficit (now up to 1.7 trillion pounds, doubled under a Tory regime after they promised austerity would pay it all off). Only this time she's turned her attention to the Elderly and schoolkids as well as the disabled!

What makes me laugh is that people fall for this sh*t time and again. We're all being shafted but at least some of us realize what is happening.


The deficit is £1.7 trillion?

Dianne, why are you posting on a Swansea City forum?

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 19:30 - May 19 with 1967 viewsNeathJack

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 19:04 - May 19 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

The deficit is £1.7 trillion?

Dianne, why are you posting on a Swansea City forum?


Could equally have said Philip Hammond.
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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 22:56 - May 19 with 1895 viewsrock1n

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 12:34 - May 19 by blueytheblue

Any evidence behind the utterly bonkers "will then sek to outlaw other political parties because of their irrelevance" line?

EDIT:

It sums up the state of Labour that their focus seems to be looking for reasons to vote against Tories rather than looking for reasons to vote Labour...
[Post edited 19 May 2017 12:36]


that's been labour strategy for decades, it's only very recently the donkey labour voter has started to wake up in many ways corbyn is the just the end product of years of taking the donkeys for granted

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 22:58 - May 19 with 1894 viewsrock1n

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 19:04 - May 19 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

The deficit is £1.7 trillion?

Dianne, why are you posting on a Swansea City forum?


No matter how many times you explain, no matter how many times you break in down into simplistic terms they'll never get it.

Just smile.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 23:22 - May 19 with 1873 viewsPozuelosSideys

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 18:35 - May 19 by Brynmill_Jack

Pfi was the insidious Blair and Brown project. Thankfully the manifesto is back to a socialist programme now.

Yes Bluey, you keep convincing yourself that St Teresa is going to reduce the deficit (now up to 1.7 trillion pounds, doubled under a Tory regime after they promised austerity would pay it all off). Only this time she's turned her attention to the Elderly and schoolkids as well as the disabled!

What makes me laugh is that people fall for this sh*t time and again. We're all being shafted but at least some of us realize what is happening.


Deficit - The difference between income revenue and expenditure when you spend more than you earn

Debt - Total amount of money owed through accumulation of a negative balance of payments

Only by reducing the deficit and turning it into a surplus can you begin to bring down the overall debt.

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 23:34 - May 19 with 1862 viewsJack_Meoff

Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 11:42 - May 19 by trampie

Vote Plaid in Wales
Vote Green in England
Vote SNP in Scotland

Has got to be the way to go.


We're still centrally 'governed' by those worthless cocksuckers in Westminster is the issue tramp.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.

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Anyone voting Conservative or Labour must be mad. on 00:54 - May 20 with 1833 viewsperchrockjack

The nationalisation of utilities, rail ,post have NOT been costed


Jez has also not had the guts to relplynto questions about his sharing a platform with killers of hundreds in UK . The Tories have been disgusting in allowing this piece of slime wriggle off the hook


Same with McDonnell


Hopefully, this facade will end on June 9 when we will see the Labour Party come to its senses and dump this sewer rat

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