| Routledge and Dyer - over ? 18:45 - May 21 with 5526 views | Loyal |
My personal opinion is both need replacing.
Rangel I'm certain will progress to coaching, he is intelligent enough. He needs to step down as well.
But Leon ? He has another season and we all know it. |  |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 19:02 - May 21 with 3339 views | headcleaner |
Nope Huw and PC said we don't need any major overhaul and if hue says it then it must be right. I like Angel he seems like a decent guy who knows what it takes to play for the swans,. Personally I'd like how to go and take them with he and whilst he's at it take Monterey, Bartley, barrow and a few others with him. Clear the decks and have a good purge. |  | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 19:12 - May 21 with 3271 views | Dr_Winston |
Barrow and Montero are likely to move on. We'll probably sign another winger/forward type leaving Routs and Dyer as more than adequate backup. |  |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 19:50 - May 21 with 3102 views | ZZoric |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 19:12 - May 21 by Dr_Winston |
Barrow and Montero are likely to move on. We'll probably sign another winger/forward type leaving Routs and Dyer as more than adequate backup. |
Much more than adequate - they both have our philosophy ingrained
Alongside Leon, this is a priceless commodity to be shared amongst the ranks |  | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 19:52 - May 21 with 3096 views | icecoldjack |
Routs- stay.
Dyer- maybe leave
Barrow- leave
Montero- maybe leave
Rangel- Stay as back up
Britton- stay Another season as a 60 min player.
Happy for clement to make his mind up, seems to get an extra 5% out of players and as we all know thats a huge difference in this league . |  | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 19:54 - May 21 with 3072 views | Yossarian |
Retain both and get rid of Montero and Barrow please Huw. |  |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 00:02 - May 22 with 2840 views | Loyal |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 19:54 - May 21 by Yossarian |
Retain both and get rid of Montero and Barrow please Huw. |
How about retain Montero and get rid of Barrow and Huw ? | |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 00:09 - May 22 with 2821 views | Highjack |
Spend the entire transfer budget on bionic hamstrings for Montero. |  |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 00:11 - May 22 with 2815 views | Nirvana |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 19:12 - May 21 by Dr_Winston |
Barrow and Montero are likely to move on. We'll probably sign another winger/forward type leaving Routs and Dyer as more than adequate backup. |
Doc, I would love for Montero/Barrow to move on, they've had plenty of chances (too many) and done very little.
I don't, however, know who would want to take either of them on a permanent basis.
Do you? Genuine question. |  | | |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 06:44 - May 22 with 2674 views | Dr_Winston |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 00:11 - May 22 by Nirvana |
Doc, I would love for Montero/Barrow to move on, they've had plenty of chances (too many) and done very little.
I don't, however, know who would want to take either of them on a permanent basis.
Do you? Genuine question. |
There's always some mug out there. After all, we took on Emnes and Ngog. | |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 07:26 - May 22 with 2596 views | Jackfath |
Every time I hear barrows name I cringe. Not because of him but because of the east stands chant to try and get him on the pitch. Dear God, listen to yourselves. |  |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 07:55 - May 22 with 2518 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Would definitely keep Montero, but it is time for Barrow to move on, not done anything out on loan at Leeds.
Can't really see either Routledge or Dyer making an impact next season, but with their recent contract extensions, they will be apart of the squad in some capacity. |  | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 07:57 - May 22 with 2515 views | Nirvana |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 06:44 - May 22 by Dr_Winston |
There's always some mug out there. After all, we took on Emnes and Ngog. |
I see your point.
But remember, that mug was the one and only Huw Jenkins. Our hopes are riding on someone being more incompetent than he is?
But maybe we can rekindle this link, if it was even remotely true in the first place:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/2450938/hull-want-swansea-ace-jefferson-montero-i
Convince Leeds to take Barrow somehow and that's a big part of our squad's problems removed, and a little bit of money made.
That isnt likely, though. Extremely wishful thinking.
(edit: but I hope you're right) [Post edited 22 May 2017 7:58]
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 09:11 - May 22 with 2379 views | jasonbromham |
All 4 need replacing. | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 10:01 - May 22 with 2301 views | monmouth |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 09:11 - May 22 by jasonbromham |
All 4 need replacing. |
Not sure about that mate. As back ups committed to the club and good team players and club men Dyer and Routledge are fine, assuming Dyer gets over his injury which is by no means certain. We can't afford expensive bench men, unless it's for critical positions to the team where we can't afford an injury. Barrow simply has to be sacked off and I've had enough of Montero too, but if we were to keep Llorente, he might have a role.
My priority would be at least one faster quicker witted player in the midfield. A 27 year old Leon Britton would be ideal. |  |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 10:24 - May 22 with 2260 views | jasonbromham |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 10:01 - May 22 by monmouth |
Not sure about that mate. As back ups committed to the club and good team players and club men Dyer and Routledge are fine, assuming Dyer gets over his injury which is by no means certain. We can't afford expensive bench men, unless it's for critical positions to the team where we can't afford an injury. Barrow simply has to be sacked off and I've had enough of Montero too, but if we were to keep Llorente, he might have a role.
My priority would be at least one faster quicker witted player in the midfield. A 27 year old Leon Britton would be ideal. |
None of them are good enough. The defensive work of Routledge is just a myth. Barrow needs to just stcik to wives instead of football. Montero is injury prone & Dyer doesn't have the end product needed. Our wingers should be contributing to goals and assists in the team. | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 10:52 - May 22 with 2220 views | jack247 |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 10:24 - May 22 by jasonbromham |
None of them are good enough. The defensive work of Routledge is just a myth. Barrow needs to just stcik to wives instead of football. Montero is injury prone & Dyer doesn't have the end product needed. Our wingers should be contributing to goals and assists in the team. |
The defensive work of Routledge isn't a myth, some just can't see it unless it comes in the form of bone crunching sliding tackles. He has, however lost a bit of pace and has never been able to finish. Dyer is also deceptively good defensively. I'm glad people have finally cottoned on to Montero and Barrow. Blistering pace is not enough without a football brain.
It's a big assumption, but assuming we retain our current squad and keep to the same formation, there is no need for so many wingers. Narsingh is there to inject a bit of pace from the bench and get in behind defences playing high lines when needed. I'd say either of Dyer and Routledge along with him would be enough cover for a team that doesn't really play with wingers. Especially if Dan James is able to step up to squad player next season. | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:21 - May 22 with 2171 views | Yossarian |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 00:02 - May 22 by Loyal |
How about retain Montero and get rid of Barrow and Huw ? |
Like it.  | |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:27 - May 22 with 2149 views | jasonbromham |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 10:52 - May 22 by jack247 |
The defensive work of Routledge isn't a myth, some just can't see it unless it comes in the form of bone crunching sliding tackles. He has, however lost a bit of pace and has never been able to finish. Dyer is also deceptively good defensively. I'm glad people have finally cottoned on to Montero and Barrow. Blistering pace is not enough without a football brain.
It's a big assumption, but assuming we retain our current squad and keep to the same formation, there is no need for so many wingers. Narsingh is there to inject a bit of pace from the bench and get in behind defences playing high lines when needed. I'd say either of Dyer and Routledge along with him would be enough cover for a team that doesn't really play with wingers. Especially if Dan James is able to step up to squad player next season. |
I made it a priority to watch for this defensive work from Routledge all season and I am yet to see it. Yes sometimes he does get back but if he can't stop the cross then what's the point in him even getting back. All 4 of the wingers are not good enough. Ayew looks good, Narsingh could take a bit of time but yesterday we saw glimpses of what he can do. Dan James is ready but I can't see Clement giving him the chance.
Isn't a wingers main job to attack rather than defend though? That should be priority over any defending. | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:32 - May 22 with 2132 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 10:52 - May 22 by jack247 |
The defensive work of Routledge isn't a myth, some just can't see it unless it comes in the form of bone crunching sliding tackles. He has, however lost a bit of pace and has never been able to finish. Dyer is also deceptively good defensively. I'm glad people have finally cottoned on to Montero and Barrow. Blistering pace is not enough without a football brain.
It's a big assumption, but assuming we retain our current squad and keep to the same formation, there is no need for so many wingers. Narsingh is there to inject a bit of pace from the bench and get in behind defences playing high lines when needed. I'd say either of Dyer and Routledge along with him would be enough cover for a team that doesn't really play with wingers. Especially if Dan James is able to step up to squad player next season. |
No, it's a myth I'm afraid. You can keep on telling yourself he's sound in terms of his positioning, as you have with Cork, but the proof is in the pudding. We conceded more goals than anyone for the first three quarters of the season, changes had to be made and if they weren't made we would of been relegated, Britton especially, and Ayew has improved us no end going forward and in our third down the flanks.
Dyer is very good defensively I agree, and sad to say I do now agree with you on Barrow, however I would still give Montero one more season personally.
I'm no Routledge hater, he's been a wonderful servant and his commitment to us can't be questioned, found a home here and he knows it, but he is bit part from here on in. | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:34 - May 22 with 2121 views | Meraki |
Who do you think we should bring in? | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:51 - May 22 with 2076 views | jack247 |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:32 - May 22 by 34dfgdf54 |
No, it's a myth I'm afraid. You can keep on telling yourself he's sound in terms of his positioning, as you have with Cork, but the proof is in the pudding. We conceded more goals than anyone for the first three quarters of the season, changes had to be made and if they weren't made we would of been relegated, Britton especially, and Ayew has improved us no end going forward and in our third down the flanks.
Dyer is very good defensively I agree, and sad to say I do now agree with you on Barrow, however I would still give Montero one more season personally.
I'm no Routledge hater, he's been a wonderful servant and his commitment to us can't be questioned, found a home here and he knows it, but he is bit part from here on in. |
Right, so you're putting our pre-Clement form down to Routledge now?
You don't think he or Cork are sound positionally, but you would give Montero another season. At least you have woken up re. Barrow.
Your last paragraph I agree with. Either Routledge or Dyer as a bit part player. Both are more than capable of it but shouldn't be regular starters. It's what I said above. | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:56 - May 22 with 2067 views | jasonbromham |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:34 - May 22 by Meraki |
Who do you think we should bring in? |
Some names for you all:
Quincy Promes
Kamil Grosicki
Anwar El Ghazi
Lazar Markovic
Oxlade Chamberlain
Balde Keita
Inaki Williams
Dare I say it Scott Sinclair | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 15:46 - May 22 with 1934 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 11:51 - May 22 by jack247 |
Right, so you're putting our pre-Clement form down to Routledge now?
You don't think he or Cork are sound positionally, but you would give Montero another season. At least you have woken up re. Barrow.
Your last paragraph I agree with. Either Routledge or Dyer as a bit part player. Both are more than capable of it but shouldn't be regular starters. It's what I said above. |
Montero has the tools to be a top quality winger, can beat anyone on his day. Under the guidance of Clement, a proper coach, you never know, last chance saloon though.
Cork I would say was a massive factor in our form unfortunately, our midfield was wide open and we were cut open for fun, the goals against tally backs up my argument. Poor in possession and poor in the challenge. Routledge offered very little going forward, and to this day, do not see what he actually did defensively? One player isn't to blame for our defensive frailties, but as many goals came from down his flank as the other as far as I saw. Also, when you are struggling to keep possession with 5 yard passes, which at times was happening with Routs (and others I know), then at this level, you get found out as we saw. | | | |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 16:04 - May 22 with 1898 views | Dr_Winston |
Was Cork a massive factor in our win at Anfield, or wins against Palace, Southampton, Leicester and Burnley, or the game at the Etihad we could/should have got something from, all of which he started?
Is next season's scapegoat already sorted? | |
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| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 16:07 - May 22 with 1886 views | nantywatcher |
| Routledge and Dyer - over ? on 15:46 - May 22 by 34dfgdf54 |
Montero has the tools to be a top quality winger, can beat anyone on his day. Under the guidance of Clement, a proper coach, you never know, last chance saloon though.
Cork I would say was a massive factor in our form unfortunately, our midfield was wide open and we were cut open for fun, the goals against tally backs up my argument. Poor in possession and poor in the challenge. Routledge offered very little going forward, and to this day, do not see what he actually did defensively? One player isn't to blame for our defensive frailties, but as many goals came from down his flank as the other as far as I saw. Also, when you are struggling to keep possession with 5 yard passes, which at times was happening with Routs (and others I know), then at this level, you get found out as we saw. |
Where do you sit in the stadium? Or are you watching matches on a laptop? Genuine question. | | | |
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