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London tower block on fire 05:32 - Jun 14 with 70792 viewsSwansNZ

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40269625

Sounds like some people might be trapped.

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London tower block on fire on 15:07 - Jun 16 with 1815 viewsDarran

London tower block on fire on 15:03 - Jun 16 by Meraki

Thats a bit hypocritical, you just made a joke on a thread about 2 soldiers who have died in an incident at Castlemartin.


No I didn't when I made that post I had no idea what the thread was about,there's no link there and no mention of anyone dying.

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London tower block on fire on 15:10 - Jun 16 with 1807 viewsblueytheblue

London tower block on fire on 14:58 - Jun 16 by Jack_Meoff

What's he/they said/done Kez? Genuine question.


The whole "let's take the empty houses owned by the rich" garbage.

Corbyn's filmed visit where one person conveniently is filmed saying "we need more like you".

The likes of Owen Jones et al rushing to judgment that it was all the Tories fault, making oblique reference to "anger on the streets".

EDIT: Labour media outlets like Squawkbox and especially Novara Media ( who Jones praised for "winning" them the election ) pushing the bare face lie that the Government has issued a D notice gagging media from reporting the number of deaths.
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London tower block on fire on 15:15 - Jun 16 with 1788 viewsdailew

London tower block on fire on 15:10 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

The whole "let's take the empty houses owned by the rich" garbage.

Corbyn's filmed visit where one person conveniently is filmed saying "we need more like you".

The likes of Owen Jones et al rushing to judgment that it was all the Tories fault, making oblique reference to "anger on the streets".

EDIT: Labour media outlets like Squawkbox and especially Novara Media ( who Jones praised for "winning" them the election ) pushing the bare face lie that the Government has issued a D notice gagging media from reporting the number of deaths.
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He's right though.

Over 20,000 empty properties in London, probably around 1500 in that borough.

Just grab the 120 that have been empty for the longest. Obviously not needed by their owners.
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London tower block on fire on 15:18 - Jun 16 with 1780 viewsFireboy2

London tower block on fire on 15:10 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

The whole "let's take the empty houses owned by the rich" garbage.

Corbyn's filmed visit where one person conveniently is filmed saying "we need more like you".

The likes of Owen Jones et al rushing to judgment that it was all the Tories fault, making oblique reference to "anger on the streets".

EDIT: Labour media outlets like Squawkbox and especially Novara Media ( who Jones praised for "winning" them the election ) pushing the bare face lie that the Government has issued a D notice gagging media from reporting the number of deaths.
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Didn't take long for you to jump on the political bandwagon eh

FFS
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London tower block on fire on 15:22 - Jun 16 with 1775 viewsblueytheblue

London tower block on fire on 15:15 - Jun 16 by dailew

He's right though.

Over 20,000 empty properties in London, probably around 1500 in that borough.

Just grab the 120 that have been empty for the longest. Obviously not needed by their owners.
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"Probably"?

Or "actually"?

Research has discreditted the claim; regardless, Lammy et al wanting to claim those properties is actually illegal. Ironically considering Brexit, it breaks article 1of EHCR. It's a populist call, unable to be implemented. Go figure.

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London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 with 1768 viewsblueytheblue

London tower block on fire on 15:18 - Jun 16 by Fireboy2

Didn't take long for you to jump on the political bandwagon eh

FFS


Someone asked for examples of where Labout had politicised it, so, errm, GFY.

It needs a full inquiry, no party will come out with any credit.

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London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 with 1765 viewsDr_Winston

London tower block on fire on 15:22 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

"Probably"?

Or "actually"?

Research has discreditted the claim; regardless, Lammy et al wanting to claim those properties is actually illegal. Ironically considering Brexit, it breaks article 1of EHCR. It's a populist call, unable to be implemented. Go figure.


David Lammy really should shut the f*ck up about spare properties considering he claimed expenses for a second home despite only living 28 minutes by tube away from Parliament.

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London tower block on fire on 15:27 - Jun 16 with 1754 viewsblueytheblue

London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 by Dr_Winston

David Lammy really should shut the f*ck up about spare properties considering he claimed expenses for a second home despite only living 28 minutes by tube away from Parliament.


That, plus the fact it's not true.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/house-prices/almost-no-evidence-london-homes

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London tower block on fire on 15:45 - Jun 16 with 1718 viewsdailew

London tower block on fire on 15:27 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

That, plus the fact it's not true.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/house-prices/almost-no-evidence-london-homes


http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/11/map-reveals-shocking-number-of-empty-homes-across-

"The highest number of empty homes is in Kensington and Chelsea"

"Property Partner analysed the latest data from the Department of Communities and Local Government (DCLG) looking at long-term vacant dwellings in England between 2005 and 2016."

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London tower block on fire on 15:48 - Jun 16 with 1709 viewswaynekerr55

London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 by Dr_Winston

David Lammy really should shut the f*ck up about spare properties considering he claimed expenses for a second home despite only living 28 minutes by tube away from Parliament.


Honestly they're fûcking pathetic.

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London tower block on fire on 15:49 - Jun 16 with 1709 viewsFireboy2

London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

Someone asked for examples of where Labout had politicised it, so, errm, GFY.

It needs a full inquiry, no party will come out with any credit.


You haven't mentioned much about this terrible tradegy and I didnt really want to bring this up but I have say that your precious tory cuts might have affected this

That bumbling fvckwit johnson shut 20 fire stations in london alone in his tenure as the mayor

The fire service don't just put fires out they work to prevent them and one way they do it is by the technical fire safety team,which inspects all sorts of building and flats being one f them,now I suspect they would have been cut as well as they are seen as not as important as the reactionary part of the service ie firefighters
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London tower block on fire on 15:52 - Jun 16 with 1698 viewsblueytheblue

London tower block on fire on 15:49 - Jun 16 by Fireboy2

You haven't mentioned much about this terrible tradegy and I didnt really want to bring this up but I have say that your precious tory cuts might have affected this

That bumbling fvckwit johnson shut 20 fire stations in london alone in his tenure as the mayor

The fire service don't just put fires out they work to prevent them and one way they do it is by the technical fire safety team,which inspects all sorts of building and flats being one f them,now I suspect they would have been cut as well as they are seen as not as important as the reactionary part of the service ie firefighters


Again, that's all supposition before an inquiry. We simply don't know at this point - hence making political points ( "tory cuts" ) is plain politicising the tragedy.

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London tower block on fire on 16:01 - Jun 16 with 1686 viewsjackportis

London tower block on fire on 14:52 - Jun 16 by Humpty

Is there any need for that?

On a thread about such a dreadful subject?


Yes as the head of State she felt that she would offer her support. Great that William was there. Nice to give recognition to the helpers. Not sure why you would not think it's a problem.

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London tower block on fire on 16:15 - Jun 16 with 1664 viewsexiledclaseboy

London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 by Dr_Winston

David Lammy really should shut the f*ck up about spare properties considering he claimed expenses for a second home despite only living 28 minutes by tube away from Parliament.


Lammy's an idiot and always has been to be fair.

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London tower block on fire on 16:18 - Jun 16 with 1660 viewsexiledclaseboy

London tower block on fire on 15:22 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

"Probably"?

Or "actually"?

Research has discreditted the claim; regardless, Lammy et al wanting to claim those properties is actually illegal. Ironically considering Brexit, it breaks article 1of EHCR. It's a populist call, unable to be implemented. Go figure.


Article 1? Tell me more?

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London tower block on fire on 16:23 - Jun 16 with 1650 viewsexiledclaseboy

Seems to be some angry people outside Kensington Town Hall right now.

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London tower block on fire on 16:24 - Jun 16 with 1646 viewsblueytheblue

London tower block on fire on 16:18 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Article 1? Tell me more?


Possessions and all that. It's an incredibly and unsurprisingly dull, lengthy piece of text. Reads as if written by a civil servant. States can't just go grabbing houses willy-nilly.

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London tower block on fire on 16:31 - Jun 16 with 1633 viewsexiledclaseboy

London tower block on fire on 16:24 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

Possessions and all that. It's an incredibly and unsurprisingly dull, lengthy piece of text. Reads as if written by a civil servant. States can't just go grabbing houses willy-nilly.


You mean Protocol 1, Article 1. The actual article 1 is very short and nothing to do with property.
It's not that lengthy either, it's only two paragraphs. It's also extremely arguable whether such requisitioning of property would breach it. Here's the text, note the caveats about the public interest and governments being able to enforce such laws as it deems necessary etc. Helps if you read these things before parroting what someone else tells you or writes.


(1) Every natural or legal person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of his possessions. No one shall be deprived of his possessions except in the public interest and subject to the conditions provided for by law and by the general principles of international law.

(2) The preceding provisions shall not, however, in any way impair the right of a state to enforce such laws as it deems necessary to control the use of property in accordance with the general interest or to secure the payment of taxes or other contributions or penalties.

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London tower block on fire on 16:42 - Jun 16 with 1614 viewsblueytheblue

London tower block on fire on 16:31 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

You mean Protocol 1, Article 1. The actual article 1 is very short and nothing to do with property.
It's not that lengthy either, it's only two paragraphs. It's also extremely arguable whether such requisitioning of property would breach it. Here's the text, note the caveats about the public interest and governments being able to enforce such laws as it deems necessary etc. Helps if you read these things before parroting what someone else tells you or writes.


(1) Every natural or legal person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of his possessions. No one shall be deprived of his possessions except in the public interest and subject to the conditions provided for by law and by the general principles of international law.

(2) The preceding provisions shall not, however, in any way impair the right of a state to enforce such laws as it deems necessary to control the use of property in accordance with the general interest or to secure the payment of taxes or other contributions or penalties.


http://www.echr.coe.int/LibraryDocs/DG2/HRFILES/DG2-EN-HRFILES-11(1998).pdf

That does seem to be a lengthy read. I guess my search online was mere parroting mind... as always, simple issues become complex interpretations.

Seizing people's property is a slippery slope imo. The rhetoric of Lammy is dangerous, prejudging any inquiry determinations, hyping up the "it's the evil rich innit" mantra.

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London tower block on fire on 16:46 - Jun 16 with 1605 viewsfelixstowe_jack

London tower block on fire on 15:10 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

The whole "let's take the empty houses owned by the rich" garbage.

Corbyn's filmed visit where one person conveniently is filmed saying "we need more like you".

The likes of Owen Jones et al rushing to judgment that it was all the Tories fault, making oblique reference to "anger on the streets".

EDIT: Labour media outlets like Squawkbox and especially Novara Media ( who Jones praised for "winning" them the election ) pushing the bare face lie that the Government has issued a D notice gagging media from reporting the number of deaths.
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12.5% of Labour PMs are landlords no wonder Blair and Brown did not introduce any housing regulations. Perhaps instead of confiscating the houses of the rich Corbyn could confiscate his MPs houses and give them to the homeless.

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London tower block on fire on 16:47 - Jun 16 with 1605 viewsexiledclaseboy

London tower block on fire on 16:42 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

http://www.echr.coe.int/LibraryDocs/DG2/HRFILES/DG2-EN-HRFILES-11(1998).pdf

That does seem to be a lengthy read. I guess my search online was mere parroting mind... as always, simple issues become complex interpretations.

Seizing people's property is a slippery slope imo. The rhetoric of Lammy is dangerous, prejudging any inquiry determinations, hyping up the "it's the evil rich innit" mantra.


That is a lengthy read but it's not the article you refereed to and I doubt you've read it either. If such a move were to be made (and let's be honest, it won't) and a challenge to that move resulted it would be foe the courts to interpret the legality. It's clearly not cut and dried.

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London tower block on fire on 16:50 - Jun 16 with 1592 viewsblueytheblue

London tower block on fire on 16:47 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

That is a lengthy read but it's not the article you refereed to and I doubt you've read it either. If such a move were to be made (and let's be honest, it won't) and a challenge to that move resulted it would be foe the courts to interpret the legality. It's clearly not cut and dried.


Read as much there as I could before falling asleep.

Of course there won't be any such move made, Lammy knows that it's playing cheap politics, pandering to the mob.

Owen Jones et al must be masturbating furiously at the moment seeing the scenes at Kensington Town Hall.

Stir up the mob, wait for the riots and try to profit politically from it.

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London tower block on fire on 16:56 - Jun 16 with 1580 viewsexiledclaseboy

London tower block on fire on 16:50 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue

Read as much there as I could before falling asleep.

Of course there won't be any such move made, Lammy knows that it's playing cheap politics, pandering to the mob.

Owen Jones et al must be masturbating furiously at the moment seeing the scenes at Kensington Town Hall.

Stir up the mob, wait for the riots and try to profit politically from it.


"The mob"?
Your sense of humanity and empathy knows no beginning.

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London tower block on fire on 16:57 - Jun 16 with 1574 viewsDarran

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London tower block on fire on 16:59 - Jun 16 with 1568 viewsDr_Winston

London tower block on fire on 16:57 - Jun 16 by Darran

Who's Lammy?


MP for Tottenham. He's like a less intelligent Diane Abbott.

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