| Russia Today (RT News) 13:46 - Nov 14 with 6982 views | scottishjack |
Anyone on here watch it? If so, thoughts?
I've noticed lately that when I'm setting up the pub for the day, I'm more and more likely to have this channel on in the background than the BBC or Sky News. Seems a lot more informative, and less agenda driven. |  | | |  |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:18 - Jul 21 with 656 views | perchrockjack |
Tram pie.you re walking into a dark corridor and I won't be there for you.anyway, where all the indignation over Putin who s basically killed hundreds of people.
Just as well USA not involved..
This is how political allegiances pervert our thinking |  |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:19 - Jul 21 with 654 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:13 - Jul 21 by trampie |
You've seen the article by now I assume its says Welsh flags have been banned and go's on to talk about St David's Cross and the Owain Glyndwr banners, but notes that the Red Dragon flag is allowed.
The two boys had an Owain Glyndwr flag or flags.
The Owain Glyndwr flag is most definitely a Welsh flag as are the others, its ignorance on the part of others if they do not know they are Welsh flags, they should not be banned as they are national symbols and they are in no way offensive either, it was a disgrace what happened. |
I'm not arguing that point. I don't see what's offensive about either of those symbols. But just because an article on the internet talks about "Welsh" flags doesn't make them so. The vast majority of your average Welsh men or women wouldn't have a clue what they are and care even less. |  |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:20 - Jul 21 with 653 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:03 - Jul 21 by Darran |
Is a Welsh flag in the Welsh national stadium political matter then?
Nope that's why it's not banned. |
Owain Glyndwr flags were banned, they said they would ban Saint Davids Cross flags also.
The fans had to put the flag away. |  |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:21 - Jul 21 with 647 views | Darran |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:20 - Jul 21 by trampie |
Owain Glyndwr flags were banned, they said they would ban Saint Davids Cross flags also.
The fans had to put the flag away. |
So the national flag of Wales isn't banned then? |  |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:21 - Jul 21 with 645 views | perchrockjack |
Wrong again.many do care.flags can be very important to people.speak to any yank | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:42 - Jul 21 with 632 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:21 - Jul 21 by Darran |
So the national flag of Wales isn't banned then? |
Depends on what you regard the national flag of Wales to be, I was reading a website only last night that thought it should be Owain Glyndwrs flag. | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:43 - Jul 21 with 629 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:18 - Jul 21 by perchrockjack |
Tram pie.you re walking into a dark corridor and I won't be there for you.anyway, where all the indignation over Putin who s basically killed hundreds of people.
Just as well USA not involved..
This is how political allegiances pervert our thinking |
Buttie, buttie, buttie, i'm a valley boy don't you think I can't look after myself, you might be the one going into a dark place conversing with trampie, you could be corrupted by trampie, if you think that other poster is never wrong and trampie has just taken him then you better think on.  | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 22:06 - Jul 21 with 617 views | Free_Willy |
Owen Glendower the gog didn't even rule the whole of wales.
Harri Tudur VII born in Pembroke, killed Richard III the last English Monarch at the battle of Bosworth. A Jack Legend |  | | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 22:18 - Jul 21 with 607 views | Darran |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:42 - Jul 21 by trampie |
Depends on what you regard the national flag of Wales to be, I was reading a website only last night that thought it should be Owain Glyndwrs flag. |
So this flag isn't banned then?
What a f*cking tw*t. 
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 22:49 - Jul 21 with 584 views | trampie |
You are well slow on the up take 'Darran' aren't you.  | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 23:15 - Jul 21 with 568 views | Cottsy |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 21:16 - Jul 21 by trampie |
If only butt, if only, put it like this I watched the Swans from the 4th division to the 1st division the first time round. |
Really?!?
And you honestly think the three main three political parties are extreme right wing, the unions are right wing and Plaid and the Scotch Nats are socialists?
Astonishing. |  |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 23:22 - Jul 21 with 561 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 23:15 - Jul 21 by Cottsy |
Really?!?
And you honestly think the three main three political parties are extreme right wing, the unions are right wing and Plaid and the Scotch Nats are socialists?
Astonishing. |
What do you think then butt ?
Where do you put those 5 political parties and the unions that support one of those parties on a political compass ?
Do you think there is much difference between the Labour party and the Conservative party ? | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 23:44 - Jul 21 with 538 views | Cottsy |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 23:22 - Jul 21 by trampie |
What do you think then butt ?
Where do you put those 5 political parties and the unions that support one of those parties on a political compass ?
Do you think there is much difference between the Labour party and the Conservative party ? |
I would put all of the parties somewhere close to the centre with Labour to the left of centre and the Tories to the right, the main unions would all be comfortably left of centre and none of them will be anywhere near the extreme right.
Yes I do think there is a difference between Labour and the Tories. | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 23:49 - Jul 21 with 533 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 23:44 - Jul 21 by Cottsy |
I would put all of the parties somewhere close to the centre with Labour to the left of centre and the Tories to the right, the main unions would all be comfortably left of centre and none of them will be anywhere near the extreme right.
Yes I do think there is a difference between Labour and the Tories. |
Well you would be wrong, 30 years ago Labour would have been on the left, the Liberals in the middle and the Tories on the right, now all three are occupying the space the Tories have always occupied on the right and a long way out on the right as well, the unions support one of those parties that occupy the right, that party is still known as Labour but for better clarification NuLabour is more appropriate as they are the opposite of the old socialist Labour party. | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:07 - Jul 22 with 526 views | Cottsy |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 23:49 - Jul 21 by trampie |
Well you would be wrong, 30 years ago Labour would have been on the left, the Liberals in the middle and the Tories on the right, now all three are occupying the space the Tories have always occupied on the right and a long way out on the right as well, the unions support one of those parties that occupy the right, that party is still known as Labour but for better clarification NuLabour is more appropriate as they are the opposite of the old socialist Labour party. |
Yeah you're talking sh!t. | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:24 - Jul 22 with 514 views | epaul |
Wow so according to trampie I'm a right wing nut, damn wish someone would have told me. Funny thing is my union isn't affiliated to any political party (that's if you can get away from SP's desperastion; |  |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:33 - Jul 22 with 513 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:07 - Jul 22 by Cottsy |
Yeah you're talking sh!t. |
How rude, when I know i'm right and you are wrong.
I've just found something to back up what I've been telling you.
Put Political Compass in the search engine, my search engine gives me the official site, take the test or UK parties 2010 - go for UK parties 2010
See where the parties were in 2010 and go to the bottom of the page and it shows you where the parties were in various years plotted on a graph between 1972 and 2008.
Labour used to be on the left in 1972 and 1982 [like I told you Foot in 83 election] since then they are on the right, close to been classified as fascist, the Tories have always been on the far right and remain so with the Liberals [or whatever they are called getting closer and closer to them].
No historical graph plotting for Plaid and the SNP but as can be seen from the UK parties 2010 graph they are both left of centre.
So there you have it 'cottsy', it's just not me saying it, Labour the Tories and Lib Dems are out on the right with Plaid and the SNP just left of centre, the unions back Labour and Labour as per the graphs are right wing, far right wing.
So there you go butt, you have been taken in by the English press and duped, you are not alone, i'm just glad I could be a help to advise you, I can see I have a little bit of work to do on this site but the signs are very encouraging.  [Post edited 22 Jul 2014 0:50]
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:36 - Jul 22 with 506 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:24 - Jul 22 by epaul |
Wow so according to trampie I'm a right wing nut, damn wish someone would have told me. Funny thing is my union isn't affiliated to any political party (that's if you can get away from SP's desperastion; |
That's good if they are not affiliated to the Labour party, unless you want some of your subs going to a right wing English based party that is. [Post edited 22 Jul 2014 0:49]
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:55 - Jul 22 with 493 views | Cottsy |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:33 - Jul 22 by trampie |
How rude, when I know i'm right and you are wrong.
I've just found something to back up what I've been telling you.
Put Political Compass in the search engine, my search engine gives me the official site, take the test or UK parties 2010 - go for UK parties 2010
See where the parties were in 2010 and go to the bottom of the page and it shows you where the parties were in various years plotted on a graph between 1972 and 2008.
Labour used to be on the left in 1972 and 1982 [like I told you Foot in 83 election] since then they are on the right, close to been classified as fascist, the Tories have always been on the far right and remain so with the Liberals [or whatever they are called getting closer and closer to them].
No historical graph plotting for Plaid and the SNP but as can be seen from the UK parties 2010 graph they are both left of centre.
So there you have it 'cottsy', it's just not me saying it, Labour the Tories and Lib Dems are out on the right with Plaid and the SNP just left of centre, the unions back Labour and Labour as per the graphs are right wing, far right wing.
So there you go butt, you have been taken in by the English press and duped, you are not alone, i'm just glad I could be a help to advise you, I can see I have a little bit of work to do on this site but the signs are very encouraging. [Post edited 22 Jul 2014 0:50]
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Oh really, its on political compass? I take it all back then Labour and the rest must be extreme right wing parties if political compass says so.
I thought I would have noticed this extreme lurch to the right by Labour and the unions though being an active member of the Labour party and a trade unionist. Funny how I missed that happening. | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 09:38 - Jul 22 with 434 views | perchrockjack |
I thought valley boys had some humour and sense of the surreal.
I don't like corridors | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 10:14 - Jul 22 with 429 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 00:55 - Jul 22 by Cottsy |
Oh really, its on political compass? I take it all back then Labour and the rest must be extreme right wing parties if political compass says so.
I thought I would have noticed this extreme lurch to the right by Labour and the unions though being an active member of the Labour party and a trade unionist. Funny how I missed that happening. |
Two questions for you butt:-
[1] Would you support income tax rises for those earning above average UK annual earnings ?, so say tax rises for those above 30k a year [incrementally going up of course]
[2] Would you support renationalise of our major industries ? [Water, Electricity, Steel, Coal, Gas, Post Office, Railways, well even throw in the Banks] | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 10:23 - Jul 22 with 424 views | perchrockjack |
30k ? well that s many many people n this country.
Don't tell me 30k is a big salary ffs
If its the only household salary its modest indeed.
30k is quite ludicrous.
250k then fine which means our footballers would -and should be hammered. There again they d all fook off abroad.
Where does butt come from? butty (sandwich) or buddy in which case is should be budd. Weird | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 10:29 - Jul 22 with 417 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 10:23 - Jul 22 by perchrockjack |
30k ? well that s many many people n this country.
Don't tell me 30k is a big salary ffs
If its the only household salary its modest indeed.
30k is quite ludicrous.
250k then fine which means our footballers would -and should be hammered. There again they d all fook off abroad.
Where does butt come from? butty (sandwich) or buddy in which case is should be budd. Weird |
Give the boyo time mun, give him time to answer. | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 10:49 - Jul 22 with 397 views | Cottsy |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 10:14 - Jul 22 by trampie |
Two questions for you butt:-
[1] Would you support income tax rises for those earning above average UK annual earnings ?, so say tax rises for those above 30k a year [incrementally going up of course]
[2] Would you support renationalise of our major industries ? [Water, Electricity, Steel, Coal, Gas, Post Office, Railways, well even throw in the Banks] |
1. £30k? Do you live in the real world? In what possible way could someone earning £30k a year possibly be considered as a top earner?
I'm all for raising taxes for the highest earners but lets have a bit of sense about what constitutes a high earner.
2. Yes I fully support the renationalisation of all utilities and the railways, coal and steel not so much. Labour's plans to part nationalise the railways don't go far enough in my opinion but it will definitely be an improvement on the state subsidised monopolies we currently have.
Banks? Maybe a national bank would be a good idea I'm not really sure certainly no need to nationalise all of them though just make sure they are better regulated and tax bankers bonuses. | |
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| Russia Today (RT News) on 11:10 - Jul 22 with 378 views | trampie |
| Russia Today (RT News) on 10:49 - Jul 22 by Cottsy |
1. £30k? Do you live in the real world? In what possible way could someone earning £30k a year possibly be considered as a top earner?
I'm all for raising taxes for the highest earners but lets have a bit of sense about what constitutes a high earner.
2. Yes I fully support the renationalisation of all utilities and the railways, coal and steel not so much. Labour's plans to part nationalise the railways don't go far enough in my opinion but it will definitely be an improvement on the state subsidised monopolies we currently have.
Banks? Maybe a national bank would be a good idea I'm not really sure certainly no need to nationalise all of them though just make sure they are better regulated and tax bankers bonuses. |
There got you, why vote for a right wing party like Labour then ???
Either you was going to say you don't support those measures and would therefore be a right winger or you do support those measures - so why vote for a party that doesn't support those measures, a right wing party.
The bottom-line is you vote for a party that supports neoliberalism, a party that promotes privatisation, free markets and reductions in Government spending and are involved with unions when lots of unions give financial backing to a right wing party like Labour, they are all right wingers.
Are you old enough to know the difference between right and left wing politics ?, were you of voting age when Michael Foot stood for Prime Minister in 83 with Labours last Socialist manifesto ? | |
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