| General election time for new policy vote Labour 12:52 - Apr 21 with 5056 views | burty |
The Tories have doubled their funding to rack renting landlords to the tune of £10 Billion a year in wasted housing benefit payments since 2010. They've borrowed more money than any Labour Government ever! Debt to GDP up a third, National Debt up 50%. Where's all our money going because the roads around me are falling to bits and I can't get a GP appointment without a two-week wait? It's all being pissed into Tory vanity projects and private-sector pockets, whilst the poor & public sector get screwed, declawed, de-skilled and turned into mere units of consumption. The government are liars and spivs.
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 13:31 - Apr 21 with 3942 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Bit quiet on this thread eh . |  |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 13:40 - Apr 21 with 3935 views | Highjack |
Labour are even more repulsive. Id rather vote plaid than labour and that's saying something. |  |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:42 - Apr 21 with 3910 views | Wingstandwood |
To ALL Planet Swans readers! Quote burty "I can't get a GP appointment without a two-week wait?".
Well I've got some extremely worrying news! It's gonna get SIGNIFICANTLY worse! A new pioneering system (soon to be nationwide?) is now in place in Gorseinon where you are screened and of which you can be refused a G.P appointment....Not guaranteed anymore i.e. a bit like when I used to have an NHS dentist.
Its called a triage system! Hells f#cking bells............Hey!
First you phone the receptionist, you then have to describe to her your personal condition (however embarrassing) then you have to stay-in to wait for a doctor to phone back and he does an assessment/examination by means of telecom service. If you're deemed ill enough? You win an appointment!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3976930/Prove-need-GP-Hundreds-doctors-a |  |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:57 - Apr 21 with 3889 views | blueytheblue |
Surgery near us it's near impossible to get an appointment within 2 weeks.
Why?
As the receptionist mentioned, they get swamped with a large number of patients not requiring any treatment whatsoever with incredibly minor ailments. Not to mention the number that booked appointments then failed to attend.
It's incredibly sensible to pre-screen appointments to get rid of time wasters. | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:58 - Apr 21 with 3889 views | burty |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:42 - Apr 21 by Wingstandwood |
To ALL Planet Swans readers! Quote burty "I can't get a GP appointment without a two-week wait?".
Well I've got some extremely worrying news! It's gonna get SIGNIFICANTLY worse! A new pioneering system (soon to be nationwide?) is now in place in Gorseinon where you are screened and of which you can be refused a G.P appointment....Not guaranteed anymore i.e. a bit like when I used to have an NHS dentist.
Its called a triage system! Hells f#cking bells............Hey!
First you phone the receptionist, you then have to describe to her your personal condition (however embarrassing) then you have to stay-in to wait for a doctor to phone back and he does an assessment/examination by means of telecom service. If you're deemed ill enough? You win an appointment!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3976930/Prove-need-GP-Hundreds-doctors-a |
Daily Mail tory propaganda machine have you seen the protests all over the country on the bbc ? no are you mad people are crying out for change we want an economy that works for all not just the rich and brexit will be a disaster if we in wales lose our doctors dentists and nurses the NHS in in crisis cant you see its A DISASTER austerity is killing public services and jobs.
come on footballers in prmeier league couldnt put 20 quid a week to pay for social security lets be real the rich can afford to pay a bit more. | | | |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:59 - Apr 21 with 3886 views | Ebo |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:42 - Apr 21 by Wingstandwood |
To ALL Planet Swans readers! Quote burty "I can't get a GP appointment without a two-week wait?".
Well I've got some extremely worrying news! It's gonna get SIGNIFICANTLY worse! A new pioneering system (soon to be nationwide?) is now in place in Gorseinon where you are screened and of which you can be refused a G.P appointment....Not guaranteed anymore i.e. a bit like when I used to have an NHS dentist.
Its called a triage system! Hells f#cking bells............Hey!
First you phone the receptionist, you then have to describe to her your personal condition (however embarrassing) then you have to stay-in to wait for a doctor to phone back and he does an assessment/examination by means of telecom service. If you're deemed ill enough? You win an appointment!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3976930/Prove-need-GP-Hundreds-doctors-a |
Theresa the appeaser is a real warm and friendly leader isn't she? |  |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 15:01 - Apr 21 with 3884 views | blueytheblue |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:58 - Apr 21 by burty |
Daily Mail tory propaganda machine have you seen the protests all over the country on the bbc ? no are you mad people are crying out for change we want an economy that works for all not just the rich and brexit will be a disaster if we in wales lose our doctors dentists and nurses the NHS in in crisis cant you see its A DISASTER austerity is killing public services and jobs.
come on footballers in prmeier league couldnt put 20 quid a week to pay for social security lets be real the rich can afford to pay a bit more. |
Lost dentists a long time ago.
Easier to blame governments that accept the fact dentists deliberately went private to make more money for themselves.
NHS consultants? Wait 6 months or go private and see same consultant within two weeks.
Nurses? Eh agency nurses enjoy the extra money. | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 15:02 - Apr 21 with 3883 views | Wingstandwood |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:58 - Apr 21 by burty |
Daily Mail tory propaganda machine have you seen the protests all over the country on the bbc ? no are you mad people are crying out for change we want an economy that works for all not just the rich and brexit will be a disaster if we in wales lose our doctors dentists and nurses the NHS in in crisis cant you see its A DISASTER austerity is killing public services and jobs.
come on footballers in prmeier league couldnt put 20 quid a week to pay for social security lets be real the rich can afford to pay a bit more. |
Tory propaganda machine it is but it did at least have the decency to report something that does not exactly make the Tories look good. And bearing in mind we have a devolved Labour WAG it doesn't exactly make them look good either i.e. the triage system is being pioneered in real-time in Gorseinon as I type this.
Coming to your local G.P practice folks! BTW I lost my NHS dentist (now pay privately) under Labour Westminster and WAG. [Post edited 21 Apr 2017 15:04]
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 15:09 - Apr 21 with 3870 views | perchrockjack |
We can see our GP the day you ring in.dentists? Got shed loads NHS too | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 15:36 - Apr 21 with 3850 views | Wingstandwood |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 15:09 - Apr 21 by perchrockjack |
We can see our GP the day you ring in.dentists? Got shed loads NHS too |
You are extremely lucky....appreciate it...... and do not take it for (I assume you do appreciate ) granted. I have seen so many things in my locality go: a lot of well paid long term jobs, a 24hr fully manned/operational police station, a local causality, a bus service or two to certain areas lost along with services reduced for some with one bus every 2 hrs, my NHS dentist gone, a guaranteed G.P appointment gone etc etc etc.
Since 1979?.... all down hill stuff in my part of the world. [Post edited 21 Apr 2017 15:39]
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:11 - Apr 21 with 3808 views | Wingstandwood |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:57 - Apr 21 by blueytheblue |
Surgery near us it's near impossible to get an appointment within 2 weeks.
Why?
As the receptionist mentioned, they get swamped with a large number of patients not requiring any treatment whatsoever with incredibly minor ailments. Not to mention the number that booked appointments then failed to attend.
It's incredibly sensible to pre-screen appointments to get rid of time wasters. |
Well my late father was screened, had terminal cancer, was refused an appointment courtesy of NHS direct and ended up collapsing (blood loss, low platelet count) in Singleton Hospital car park because a doctor call out was refused.
Recently a young girl in Bonymaen area died because of telephonic screening.
And BTW my sister has a specialised role in Swansea Morriston and her opinion? People will fill up A+E instead and are doing so! Incredibly sensible telephonic screening my f#cking arse! | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:26 - Apr 21 with 3788 views | hobo |
The Tories are turning parts of UK into a 3rd World country. Cuts followed by cuts followed by cuts. Hopefully the masses can see through the propaganda machine that is the media and vote using their heads |  | | |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:44 - Apr 21 with 3772 views | Jango |
When the tories took charge the figure was 150,000 people a year missing the 4 hour waiting time with nhs hospitals, it now stands at 1.5million. Anyone would think they were trying to privatise the NHS and give out the lucrative contracts to all of their wealthy chums. Pretty much what they done with our Royal Mail. Scumbags | | | |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:46 - Apr 21 with 3771 views | blueytheblue |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:11 - Apr 21 by Wingstandwood |
Well my late father was screened, had terminal cancer, was refused an appointment courtesy of NHS direct and ended up collapsing (blood loss, low platelet count) in Singleton Hospital car park because a doctor call out was refused.
Recently a young girl in Bonymaen area died because of telephonic screening.
And BTW my sister has a specialised role in Swansea Morriston and her opinion? People will fill up A+E instead and are doing so! Incredibly sensible telephonic screening my f#cking arse! |
As I've always said, there's plenty of mistakes made within NHS. I've never regarded NHS Direct as particularly good.
Obviously, your father is a fairly specialised case, an utter disgrace imo because a doctor call out could and should have been arranged.
The reality is, the NHS is overstretched - money won't solve that as the concept doesn't scale. Money won't prevent people rushing to GP surgeries due to having the sniffles, being convinced they need antibiotics when they've got nothing more than a minor cold. Money won't prevent people rushing to A&E because they are so precious they believe a small cut on the finger means they need life saving attention.
Telephone screening should definitely be massively improved, there's no question about it but how else do you weed out the timewasters - particular with regards to GP appointments? A&E can at least triage - problem is, doesn't appear to be routine to point out to people how much time and resources they are wasting with nothing issues. | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:52 - Apr 21 with 3757 views | Jango |
Of course it's down to funding mun. You think that only recently these people have started going to
Gp's and hospitals for very little? | | | |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 17:10 - Apr 21 with 3743 views | Wingstandwood |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:46 - Apr 21 by blueytheblue |
As I've always said, there's plenty of mistakes made within NHS. I've never regarded NHS Direct as particularly good.
Obviously, your father is a fairly specialised case, an utter disgrace imo because a doctor call out could and should have been arranged.
The reality is, the NHS is overstretched - money won't solve that as the concept doesn't scale. Money won't prevent people rushing to GP surgeries due to having the sniffles, being convinced they need antibiotics when they've got nothing more than a minor cold. Money won't prevent people rushing to A&E because they are so precious they believe a small cut on the finger means they need life saving attention.
Telephone screening should definitely be massively improved, there's no question about it but how else do you weed out the timewasters - particular with regards to GP appointments? A&E can at least triage - problem is, doesn't appear to be routine to point out to people how much time and resources they are wasting with nothing issues. |
I respect the fact your do raise some truthful and valid points and if telephone triage is to be used out of sheer necessity it does need to be significantly improved. Personally I wish its non-existence. | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 17:13 - Apr 21 with 3737 views | raynor94 |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 15:09 - Apr 21 by perchrockjack |
We can see our GP the day you ring in.dentists? Got shed loads NHS too |
Exactly same for me Perch, Nicholl street surgery heart of Swansea City centre, can't fault it at all, will never vote Tories through principle, or Corbyn, so looks like Lib dems for me |  |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 17:33 - Apr 21 with 3713 views | Shaky |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:46 - Apr 21 by blueytheblue |
As I've always said, there's plenty of mistakes made within NHS. I've never regarded NHS Direct as particularly good.
Obviously, your father is a fairly specialised case, an utter disgrace imo because a doctor call out could and should have been arranged.
The reality is, the NHS is overstretched - money won't solve that as the concept doesn't scale. Money won't prevent people rushing to GP surgeries due to having the sniffles, being convinced they need antibiotics when they've got nothing more than a minor cold. Money won't prevent people rushing to A&E because they are so precious they believe a small cut on the finger means they need life saving attention.
Telephone screening should definitely be massively improved, there's no question about it but how else do you weed out the timewasters - particular with regards to GP appointments? A&E can at least triage - problem is, doesn't appear to be routine to point out to people how much time and resources they are wasting with nothing issues. |
"The reality is, the NHS is overstretched - money won't solve that as the concept doesn't scale."
Liar, liar, as usual, 'Honest' Bluey. Do you actually believe this stuff or are you some kind of mindless propaganda bot?
The fact is that healthcare costs have been rising by +7% per annum in real terms for maybe around 10 years, due primarily to aging populations and the rising cost of treatments (equipments and drugs).
In this context successive governments have portrayed their RPI funding commitment as a triumph of magnanimous and benevolent rule. However, the spread over the rise in like for like costs compounded for such an extended period of time is precisely why the NHS is falling apart today. |  |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 17:35 - Apr 21 with 3711 views | Shaky |
To the OP - Bingo!
You have to win the big picture economic argument on the failed Tory austerity policy, before the public will understand the logic of spending increases. | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 17:36 - Apr 21 with 3710 views | Highjack |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 14:42 - Apr 21 by Wingstandwood |
To ALL Planet Swans readers! Quote burty "I can't get a GP appointment without a two-week wait?".
Well I've got some extremely worrying news! It's gonna get SIGNIFICANTLY worse! A new pioneering system (soon to be nationwide?) is now in place in Gorseinon where you are screened and of which you can be refused a G.P appointment....Not guaranteed anymore i.e. a bit like when I used to have an NHS dentist.
Its called a triage system! Hells f#cking bells............Hey!
First you phone the receptionist, you then have to describe to her your personal condition (however embarrassing) then you have to stay-in to wait for a doctor to phone back and he does an assessment/examination by means of telecom service. If you're deemed ill enough? You win an appointment!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3976930/Prove-need-GP-Hundreds-doctors-a |
We've had that in neath for a while because we're always ahead of the curve in this metropolitan metropolis, to be honest it's not that bad although it is a pain having to wait around for a call back. I've only used it once when I picked up a nasty ear infection from my swimming that wouldn't go away but the surgery was empty whereas in the past it was always rammed full of people who just had a bit of a cold. | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 17:39 - Apr 21 with 3706 views | exiledclaseboy |
The GP (Cwmfelin surgery) wouldn't give my Mrs an appointment to see the doc to renew her sick paper. They made her rock up with everyone else at 8am, be given an appointment time and either hang around or go home and come back again. As it happens her appointment was only just over an hour later so by the time she got home she'd have had to leave to go straight back. She's a high infection risk and tires easily as she's currently having chemo so she couldn't sit around in the waiting room with all the germs flying round. Despite explaining all this to the receptionist she was met with a "take it or leave it" attitude so she ended up sitting in the car for an hour. The doctor herself was appalled when she saw the wife and has promised a scheduled appointment next time.
GP receptionists are one of the curses of the 21st century NHS. |  |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 18:09 - Apr 21 with 3675 views | blueytheblue |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 17:39 - Apr 21 by exiledclaseboy |
The GP (Cwmfelin surgery) wouldn't give my Mrs an appointment to see the doc to renew her sick paper. They made her rock up with everyone else at 8am, be given an appointment time and either hang around or go home and come back again. As it happens her appointment was only just over an hour later so by the time she got home she'd have had to leave to go straight back. She's a high infection risk and tires easily as she's currently having chemo so she couldn't sit around in the waiting room with all the germs flying round. Despite explaining all this to the receptionist she was met with a "take it or leave it" attitude so she ended up sitting in the car for an hour. The doctor herself was appalled when she saw the wife and has promised a scheduled appointment next time.
GP receptionists are one of the curses of the 21st century NHS. |
Suppose it's on a case by case basis really.
Think everyone sees receptionists having to deal with incredibly awkward patients - amazed the ones at our surgery keep their calm at times.
Hope your wife is getting better, btw. | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 18:11 - Apr 21 with 3671 views | exiledclaseboy |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 18:09 - Apr 21 by blueytheblue |
Suppose it's on a case by case basis really.
Think everyone sees receptionists having to deal with incredibly awkward patients - amazed the ones at our surgery keep their calm at times.
Hope your wife is getting better, btw. |
Thanks. Chemo is tough but she'll get there. | |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 18:25 - Apr 21 with 3662 views | monmouth |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 17:10 - Apr 21 by Wingstandwood |
I respect the fact your do raise some truthful and valid points and if telephone triage is to be used out of sheer necessity it does need to be significantly improved. Personally I wish its non-existence. |
We have that telephone shit here. Absolutely useless if you have any kind of job really. I was refered to the nurse practitioner (fair enough) but a doctor had to ring me to do that, and then the NP referred me back to the doctor, so I had to go in again the next day.
Lucky I'm generally a man of leisure these days. This of course is before they build 300,000,000 new houses round here with no new Schools, Hospitals or Surgeries or Roads, to WAG (or whatever the shithole is called now) plans.
(Hope Mrs Clase doesn't have to go through any of that stuff again.) |  |
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| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 19:19 - Apr 21 with 3637 views | Jack_Meoff |
| General election time for new policy vote Labour on 16:26 - Apr 21 by hobo |
The Tories are turning parts of UK into a 3rd World country. Cuts followed by cuts followed by cuts. Hopefully the masses can see through the propaganda machine that is the media and vote using their heads |
Not a f*cking chance mate. |  |
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