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Stubborness or arrogance 10:27 - Oct 11 with 2519 views1949er

Taking nothing away from hillys acheivements, i wonder if like me you are getting fed up with some of the decisions coming from the manager. It seems that he reads the forum and has the attitude of i am not being dictated to by a load of amateurs.the eastham/lancashire issue is a point in question. Does he know his best team? Chopping and changeing players and formations can be no good for anyone. I still tkink we will finish in the top half. Time will tell

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Stubborness or arrogance on 10:47 - Oct 11 with 2471 viewsThe_DJ

The post match interview again points to individual mistakes and collective poor defending.
The point of having a squad is to have options and make changes when needed.
The continuing omission of Eastham and Bennett can't be simply football related and you wonder if they have crossed Hill in some way as Tanser did last season , allegedly !!
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Stubborness or arrogance on 10:50 - Oct 11 with 2452 viewsDale23years

Stubborness or arrogance on 10:47 - Oct 11 by The_DJ

The post match interview again points to individual mistakes and collective poor defending.
The point of having a squad is to have options and make changes when needed.
The continuing omission of Eastham and Bennett can't be simply football related and you wonder if they have crossed Hill in some way as Tanser did last season , allegedly !!


we just have to reset and start again

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Stubborness or arrogance on 10:59 - Oct 11 with 2423 views442Dale

Stubborness or arrogance on 10:47 - Oct 11 by The_DJ

The post match interview again points to individual mistakes and collective poor defending.
The point of having a squad is to have options and make changes when needed.
The continuing omission of Eastham and Bennett can't be simply football related and you wonder if they have crossed Hill in some way as Tanser did last season , allegedly !!


Bennett was injured the other night, prior to that he was a bit of a victim of the numbers game while we were doing quite well. I think he'd have started yesterday at RB if he'd been fit.

Selection wise,Eastham is the one few can understand.

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Stubborness or arrogance on 11:07 - Oct 11 with 2399 viewsdingdangblue

I'm not sticking up for Lancashire in any way, as Id like to give Eastham a chance - but which of the 3 goals were his fault yesterday? The problems with corners really need addressing now though - it seems our players are stood in zones which the opposition are just exploiting easily - yesterday Sheffield Utd just overloaded the front post and just left 6 or 7 of our zonal defenders stood around scratching their bollocks and looking at each other when they headed it in.
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Stubborness or arrogance on 11:10 - Oct 11 with 2400 viewsThe_DJ

Stubborness or arrogance on 11:07 - Oct 11 by dingdangblue

I'm not sticking up for Lancashire in any way, as Id like to give Eastham a chance - but which of the 3 goals were his fault yesterday? The problems with corners really need addressing now though - it seems our players are stood in zones which the opposition are just exploiting easily - yesterday Sheffield Utd just overloaded the front post and just left 6 or 7 of our zonal defenders stood around scratching their bollocks and looking at each other when they headed it in.
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Think you've hit the nail on the head.
When scratching ones bollox nothing else matters.


Training on Monday will include a session of not scratching at set pieces.
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Stubborness or arrogance on 11:22 - Oct 11 with 2352 views442Dale

Stubborness or arrogance on 11:07 - Oct 11 by dingdangblue

I'm not sticking up for Lancashire in any way, as Id like to give Eastham a chance - but which of the 3 goals were his fault yesterday? The problems with corners really need addressing now though - it seems our players are stood in zones which the opposition are just exploiting easily - yesterday Sheffield Utd just overloaded the front post and just left 6 or 7 of our zonal defenders stood around scratching their bollocks and looking at each other when they headed it in.
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None were specifically his fault. Two came on the right hand side of defence though and his inclusion creates a certain level of uncertainty amongst fans. That uncertainty appears to be mirrored on the pitch too.

It's reached a stage where the player himself isn't benefitting from being in the side while we're conceding so many goals. Take Lancashire out, see if Eastham can improve it (watch us concede four at Bury...), Itive not it needs reassessing.

The reaction to that third goal tells us all we need to know about what the players think about the zonal marking now. It's a confidence thing again, as football often is. Our players appear to have little confidence in the tactic now.

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Stubborness or arrogance on 11:26 - Oct 11 with 2324 viewsRooleyblue

Stubborness or arrogance on 11:10 - Oct 11 by The_DJ

Think you've hit the nail on the head.
When scratching ones bollox nothing else matters.


Training on Monday will include a session of not scratching at set pieces.
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Zonal marking is a joke and creates to many problems and indecisions.
It's like when you play volleyball and when the ball comes over two players claim the ball and both hearing each other's claims leave the ball for their team mate.
The result the ball thuds into the sand with no one attacking it or in football the back of the net. Please drop zonal marking Keith.
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Stubborness or arrogance on 13:07 - Oct 11 with 2143 viewsD_Alien

I don't think it's anything to do with reading messageboards (if it were, it'd be an even greater mistake) but simply one of not wanting to be seen to be wrong*

(* Some might say I have my own special insight into this type of psychology)

The zonal marking came about through the apparent inability of our defenders to mark properly at set pieces last season, giving away far too many goals and culminating in the debacle at Barnsley. So the question is, can he trust them enough to change back to man-to-man marking? I'd say he's going to have to do, but it'll irk him no end that he's having to change something he's put his faith in. Once the players stop believing in such a fundamental part of the game as defending set pieces, it's a slippery slope to losing faith in general.

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Stubborness or arrogance on 13:20 - Oct 11 with 2086 viewsTalkingSutty

Stubborness or arrogance on 13:07 - Oct 11 by D_Alien

I don't think it's anything to do with reading messageboards (if it were, it'd be an even greater mistake) but simply one of not wanting to be seen to be wrong*

(* Some might say I have my own special insight into this type of psychology)

The zonal marking came about through the apparent inability of our defenders to mark properly at set pieces last season, giving away far too many goals and culminating in the debacle at Barnsley. So the question is, can he trust them enough to change back to man-to-man marking? I'd say he's going to have to do, but it'll irk him no end that he's having to change something he's put his faith in. Once the players stop believing in such a fundamental part of the game as defending set pieces, it's a slippery slope to losing faith in general.


Maybe the defenders just aren't good enough at this level, do they lack the confidence and consistency? We aren't secure in the right back situation because both Rafferty and Cannon get caught out of position far to many times. Stupid rash challenges when they have no hope of winning the ball also needs eradicating from their game. Both went straight through the back of players yesterday and gave away daft free kicks, it's naive and puts us on the back foot plus they end up picking up a stupid yellow cards.

Give them all a few more games and if there's no sign of improvement Hilly could do worse than looking at bringing in a couple of loan signings, long term he might need a complete overall.
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Stubborness or arrogance on 14:45 - Oct 11 with 1952 viewsBigDaveMyCock

Stubborness or arrogance on 13:20 - Oct 11 by TalkingSutty

Maybe the defenders just aren't good enough at this level, do they lack the confidence and consistency? We aren't secure in the right back situation because both Rafferty and Cannon get caught out of position far to many times. Stupid rash challenges when they have no hope of winning the ball also needs eradicating from their game. Both went straight through the back of players yesterday and gave away daft free kicks, it's naive and puts us on the back foot plus they end up picking up a stupid yellow cards.

Give them all a few more games and if there's no sign of improvement Hilly could do worse than looking at bringing in a couple of loan signings, long term he might need a complete overall.
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Funny you should mention that just seen Hilly in Millets getting measured up.

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Stubborness or arrogance on 15:41 - Oct 11 with 1820 viewsmingthemerciless

I've never been a fan of zonal marking. It's too easily defeated.
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