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Academy success 16:57 - Jan 18 with 2388 viewsSuddenLad

http://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/rochdale-afc-academy-number-on

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Academy success on 17:03 - Jan 18 with 2371 viewsKnowlesy

Excellent news this. Hopefully it's headlines like this that will entice even more top players into our system and form a circle of success.

I was wondering earlier what the process was to apply for category 2 status and what the benefits/costs of this would be. No idea how it all works really!
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Academy success on 18:02 - Jan 18 with 2248 viewsmacro

All credit to the club for this achievement. It’s great that a club is pushing youth team talent not only from a business sense but a footballing one too.
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Academy success on 19:01 - Jan 18 with 2144 viewselectricblue

Brilliant achievement......

My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds

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Academy success on 12:28 - Jan 19 with 1902 viewsRespectTheChemistry

Fantastic achievement.

Well done all concerned.
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Academy success on 13:01 - Jan 19 with 1837 viewsboromat

Academy success on 17:03 - Jan 18 by Knowlesy

Excellent news this. Hopefully it's headlines like this that will entice even more top players into our system and form a circle of success.

I was wondering earlier what the process was to apply for category 2 status and what the benefits/costs of this would be. No idea how it all works really!


Same, you see us getting all this recognition but we're still tier 3. You would think we'd be eligible to move up but I don't know the how it works. Maybe you need a permanent training ground or something. Would be great to work towards moving up the tiers I think the work the club does in youth development definitely higher up the ladder.

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Academy success on 13:45 - Jan 19 with 1762 views100notout

Academy success on 13:01 - Jan 19 by boromat

Same, you see us getting all this recognition but we're still tier 3. You would think we'd be eligible to move up but I don't know the how it works. Maybe you need a permanent training ground or something. Would be great to work towards moving up the tiers I think the work the club does in youth development definitely higher up the ladder.


Does it matter what tier we are?

Genuine question coz I have no idea how it works but ultimately the success or otherwise of any academy can be measured by the players it produces that go on to bigger and better things. In that respect we've done very very well. So as many others have said well done to all concerned.

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Academy success on 13:52 - Jan 19 with 1738 viewsdingdangblue

Academy success on 13:45 - Jan 19 by 100notout

Does it matter what tier we are?

Genuine question coz I have no idea how it works but ultimately the success or otherwise of any academy can be measured by the players it produces that go on to bigger and better things. In that respect we've done very very well. So as many others have said well done to all concerned.


Some explanation here:

http://mobile.ccfc.co.uk//news/article/category-ii-football-academy-3136560.aspx

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Academy success on 13:58 - Jan 19 with 1717 viewsDaleiLama

Outstanding. Punching above our weight yet again.

We have a quality production line of talent, which means we don't miss a beat when regular 1st teamers go down or are suspended, we can afford to let players progress their careers without experiencing major setbacks and we can benefit financially when they do both at the time and from later windfalls.

That creates a virtuous circle of the club being attractive to talented youth emerging at an even younger age and gives the club the big selling point of a proven track record of player development and success. It's fantastic to see a well run club doing things right at all levels and more with each passing day, embracing the concept that sometimes, you have to spend money to make money.

One downside to all this success which I was contemplating, was the attractiveness of the current set up to a potential investor. I can't imagine for a second we are for sale and nor am I trying to rumour-monger, but as others have pointed out, the way we operate is rapidly becoming the envy of the North West, outside the upper reaches of football.

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Academy success on 13:59 - Jan 19 with 1715 viewsfermin

Academy success on 13:52 - Jan 19 by dingdangblue

Some explanation here:

http://mobile.ccfc.co.uk//news/article/category-ii-football-academy-3136560.aspx


This interesting blog post suggests you need to spend about £1.5m a year to get tier 2 status, which is obviously beyond us.

http://whitehouseaddress.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/the-difficulties-with-academies-
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Academy success on 15:21 - Jan 19 with 1641 viewsmoth5368

Kudos to all involved
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Academy success on 15:40 - Jan 19 with 1601 viewsSuddenLad

Academy success on 13:58 - Jan 19 by DaleiLama

Outstanding. Punching above our weight yet again.

We have a quality production line of talent, which means we don't miss a beat when regular 1st teamers go down or are suspended, we can afford to let players progress their careers without experiencing major setbacks and we can benefit financially when they do both at the time and from later windfalls.

That creates a virtuous circle of the club being attractive to talented youth emerging at an even younger age and gives the club the big selling point of a proven track record of player development and success. It's fantastic to see a well run club doing things right at all levels and more with each passing day, embracing the concept that sometimes, you have to spend money to make money.

One downside to all this success which I was contemplating, was the attractiveness of the current set up to a potential investor. I can't imagine for a second we are for sale and nor am I trying to rumour-monger, but as others have pointed out, the way we operate is rapidly becoming the envy of the North West, outside the upper reaches of football.


This is proof, if ever proof were needed, that Keith Hill hasn't simply built a team here, he has built a whole club and a legacy that is the envy of almost every club outside the Championship, (and probably some in it).

'Quite remarkable', as the late David Coleman would have said.
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“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Academy success on 15:28 - Jan 20 with 1369 viewsdingdangblue

Superb.........I think a certain local club are annoying Keith a tad!


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Academy success on 17:49 - Jan 20 with 1300 views442Dale

When you consider Brass has actually given younger players a chance whereas his predecessor paid lip service to it, it makes you wonder how far apart Hill and Flitcroft are now in their football philosophies.

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Academy success on 17:58 - Jan 20 with 1276 viewsdingdangblue

Academy success on 17:49 - Jan 20 by 442Dale

When you consider Brass has actually given younger players a chance whereas his predecessor paid lip service to it, it makes you wonder how far apart Hill and Flitcroft are now in their football philosophies.


I think Brass has been told to play them so they can try and flog them. I presume Flicker has told Hilly a few tales about the goings on at gigg.

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Academy success on 11:00 - Jan 22 with 1131 viewselectricblue

I dont know if this interview as been seen but its worth listening to russ green talking about the youth setup..


My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds

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Academy success on 11:09 - Jan 22 with 1116 viewsD_Alien

Academy success on 11:00 - Jan 22 by electricblue

I dont know if this interview as been seen but its worth listening to russ green talking about the youth setup..



Thanks for posting that link EB

It's brilliant to hear, and puts yesterday's aberration in further perspective

It's a bit like listening to an executive version of Keith Hill!

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Academy success on 11:12 - Jan 22 with 1101 viewsSaxonDale

Academy success on 17:49 - Jan 20 by 442Dale

When you consider Brass has actually given younger players a chance whereas his predecessor paid lip service to it, it makes you wonder how far apart Hill and Flitcroft are now in their football philosophies.


If my reading between the lines in Hilly's interview is right, Hill's actually critical of Brass for introducing them too early. In fairness to Flicker it was under him that Bury saw a significant improvement of their youth system and recruitment.
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Academy success on 15:53 - Jan 22 with 963 viewsjoecooke

Academy success on 11:12 - Jan 22 by SaxonDale

If my reading between the lines in Hilly's interview is right, Hill's actually critical of Brass for introducing them too early. In fairness to Flicker it was under him that Bury saw a significant improvement of their youth system and recruitment.


It was actually previous to Flitcroft getting involved at Bury that their youth system improved.They picked up a lot of good staff in both coaching and scouting from Burnley as they had a bit of a mass exodus due to politics at Burnley.

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