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Informative watch. Good to hear from the people doing it with a detailed explanation.
Better than the amateur experts making assumptions!
A lot of work involved in this, it sounds like the pitch will be fully completed over the summer but fit for purpose from the end of January. I'm assuming there will be a contingency plan in place should we have a lot of snow in January and the contractors don't hit the finishing date. It is what it is, there has obviously been a lot of planning gone into this, some things are out of our control though and extreme weather such as the Beast from the East is one of them. It's a difficult situation for everybody involved with the club but the end result will be worth it. The pitch consultants are OBI sports, recognised as world leaders when it comes to this sort of stuff.The Ogdens are doing this properly, we're very lucky.
Bromley took 100 days in the Summer to get the new grass pitch ready for League 2 football.
OBI have agreed to have a playable pitch with new drains in 45 days in Winter, with followup procedures in the Summer.
If they can pull this off they deserve a medal.
Bromleys pitch wasn't already fully grown like ours i don't think. There was also consultation and planning encompassed in that 100 days. It sounds like they are confident of completing the job unless bad snow and frosts set in. Irrespective of what happens this season we are going to end up with a fabulous new pitch, something that we could only dream about eighteen months ago. It's been a great first half to the season and the pitch would have needed doing in six months time anyway. Two games at Accrington is a small price to pay as fans, although i accept it's a difficult situation for some.
The worse case scenario that i can see this season is a brand new pitch installed and finishing in a play off place. I think we would have all settled for that at the start of the season. It could even be better than that, staying positive and not feeling sorry for ourselves is key.
Bromley took 100 days in the Summer to get the new grass pitch ready for League 2 football.
OBI have agreed to have a playable pitch with new drains in 45 days in Winter, with followup procedures in the Summer.
If they can pull this off they deserve a medal.
Why? If they've said they can do it, it'll be based on a hard-headed assessment. Perhaps the Bromley pitch wasn't the only one OBI were working on during the summer months - would be surprising if it was - and therefore their equipment and manpower was spread more thinly. They're not "heroes" ffs but a business
Why? If they've said they can do it, it'll be based on a hard-headed assessment. Perhaps the Bromley pitch wasn't the only one OBI were working on during the summer months - would be surprising if it was - and therefore their equipment and manpower was spread more thinly. They're not "heroes" ffs but a business
Good luck to them
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If they can pull this off in half the time it will be absolutely heroic. I believe we are witnessing a christmas miracle!
If they can pull this off in half the time it will be absolutely heroic. I believe we are witnessing a christmas miracle!
Sorry, but that's just bollocks
It's been planned for, carefully assessed by our owners. Don't do them the injustice of having us undertake something that might not work but for some kind of miracle. They're better than that
It's been planned for, carefully assessed by our owners. Don't do them the injustice of having us undertake something that might not work but for some kind of miracle. They're better than that
It may have been well planned but it will be the heroic actions that ensure the job gets done. If it was 100 day budget, only heroes chop it in half. I wonder if they wear their capes at work.
It may have been well planned but it will be the heroic actions that ensure the job gets done. If it was 100 day budget, only heroes chop it in half. I wonder if they wear their capes at work.
Interesting him saying it wasn't as bad as he thought it would be (the state of the existing drainage) - but they are replacing it and making it better anyway. Makes you wonder what the cause for it being so bad was?
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
Interesting him saying it wasn't as bad as he thought it would be (the state of the existing drainage) - but they are replacing it and making it better anyway. Makes you wonder what the cause for it being so bad was?
Similar has been said in the past about the drains, it always appears to be about the water reaching them. But yeah, would be good to know exactly what the problem was.
Similar has been said in the past about the drains, it always appears to be about the water reaching them. But yeah, would be good to know exactly what the problem was.
You have answered your own question...Added to the fact that they were not taking enough water away, the decision to lay new drains in alongside the existing ones seems to be an acceptance that the local weather dictates a different scale of drainage to other, dryer, locations....clearly they anticipated that the coarse drainage layer wasnt letting the water through, that it wasnt as compacted as they thought it might be probably points to the quantities of water above it being simply too big for even a slightly compromised stone layer. Lesson learned hopefully. It will be great if this pitch lasts 10 years without major work and games get played without the threat of cancellation every time it rains.
You have answered your own question...Added to the fact that they were not taking enough water away, the decision to lay new drains in alongside the existing ones seems to be an acceptance that the local weather dictates a different scale of drainage to other, dryer, locations....clearly they anticipated that the coarse drainage layer wasnt letting the water through, that it wasnt as compacted as they thought it might be probably points to the quantities of water above it being simply too big for even a slightly compromised stone layer. Lesson learned hopefully. It will be great if this pitch lasts 10 years without major work and games get played without the threat of cancellation every time it rains.
I do wonder if the drains around the surrounding area is an issue? The number of streets you drive on these days in heavy rain where the water is coming up the drains or the drains are blocked. I doubt they are regularly maintained.
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
You have answered your own question...Added to the fact that they were not taking enough water away, the decision to lay new drains in alongside the existing ones seems to be an acceptance that the local weather dictates a different scale of drainage to other, dryer, locations....clearly they anticipated that the coarse drainage layer wasnt letting the water through, that it wasnt as compacted as they thought it might be probably points to the quantities of water above it being simply too big for even a slightly compromised stone layer. Lesson learned hopefully. It will be great if this pitch lasts 10 years without major work and games get played without the threat of cancellation every time it rains.
No I haven’t. They did not state that in the video.
Last week there was a video which actually detailed the infiltration levels per hour. It was “exceptionally low” against the norm. They did not mention and have still yet to mention anything about the levels of rainfall in Rochdale being a contributing factor. Unless I’ve missed something, happy to be pointed to the quote.
I’d rather hear from the experts who are able to detail things properly about what exactly they thought the issues were. Anything else is guesswork.
I do wonder if the drains around the surrounding area is an issue? The number of streets you drive on these days in heavy rain where the water is coming up the drains or the drains are blocked. I doubt they are regularly maintained.
That’s a fair question. Perhaps CAB representatives/the Trust could collate fans’ questions to put forward to the club so that these can be answered as part of the excellent series of updates?
You have answered your own question...Added to the fact that they were not taking enough water away, the decision to lay new drains in alongside the existing ones seems to be an acceptance that the local weather dictates a different scale of drainage to other, dryer, locations....clearly they anticipated that the coarse drainage layer wasnt letting the water through, that it wasnt as compacted as they thought it might be probably points to the quantities of water above it being simply too big for even a slightly compromised stone layer. Lesson learned hopefully. It will be great if this pitch lasts 10 years without major work and games get played without the threat of cancellation every time it rains.
I think you're making stuff up a bit here. The expert in the video hasn't mentioned a maximum 10 year life for the pitch. Are you also suggesting that Spotland has it's own micro climate that is different to surrounding local amateur pitches and Boundary Park which is literally walking distance from our ground? Even if it did top the rainfall table it wouldn't be so significant to see the pitch perform so poorly in comparison to those so close. If the drains etc aren't in particularly bad condition then commonsense would suggest that the pitch might not have been looked after correctly over the years. That's just an assumption though but the posibility of poor pitch work has to also be considered going forward. The way the club has been run down over the years, it wouldn't be a surprise. These people working on the pitch will be able to work out why the pitch has imploded and i'd be surprised if it's down to rainfall which is unique to Rochdale. If that's the case then we would need the best drainage in the Country to feel confident of solving the problem.
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