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Until I kill you 18:41 - Nov 3 with 1262 viewsraynor94

The true story of John Sweeney the serial killer is on ITV at 9pm tonight

Filmed predominantly in Swansea which is made to look like North London

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Until I kill you on 19:49 - Nov 3 with 1220 viewsFatJack

Just put it on record, thanks for the heads up,
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Until I kill you on 19:53 - Nov 3 with 1210 viewsonehunglow

Anna Marshall .Some actor

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Until I kill you on 09:48 - Nov 5 with 1045 viewsonehunglow

I’m at the stage when Delia gets assaulted within an inch of her life whilst he was on bail.
As I say, what moral compass do barristers have
In this case ,a very dangerous man let loose ,for Christmas ,to see his family
Utterly grotesque

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Until I kill you on 10:34 - Nov 5 with 1026 viewsBoundy

Until I kill you on 19:53 - Nov 3 by onehunglow

Anna Marshall .Some actor


Hell of a piece of acting although she went through so much at times during the programme , I must admit to feeling less empathy towards her due to her attitude towards her soon to be forgotten partner. Great programme and acting.

By the way me and the wife binge watched the 4 episodes. Which for me was a first.
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"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Until I kill you on 10:39 - Nov 5 with 1006 viewsraynor94

Until I kill you on 10:34 - Nov 5 by Boundy

Hell of a piece of acting although she went through so much at times during the programme , I must admit to feeling less empathy towards her due to her attitude towards her soon to be forgotten partner. Great programme and acting.

By the way me and the wife binge watched the 4 episodes. Which for me was a first.
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Yes, she treated her partner poor, after he had been there for her,

Yes good acting and nice to see it filmed around St James gardens

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Until I kill you on 19:38 - Nov 10 with 807 viewsSullutaCreturned

Until I kill you on 09:48 - Nov 5 by onehunglow

I’m at the stage when Delia gets assaulted within an inch of her life whilst he was on bail.
As I say, what moral compass do barristers have
In this case ,a very dangerous man let loose ,for Christmas ,to see his family
Utterly grotesque


Barristers have to obey the law and the law says they must defend these people to the best of their ability so there is, if possible, absolutely no doubt about their guilt.

If a criminal had no representation because every barrister/lawyer/solicitor refused then that criminal would not be brought to trial, then waht happens?

What really would be grotesque would be criminals going free because the legal profession was too "nice" to represent them.
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Until I kill you on 19:45 - Nov 10 with 796 viewsonehunglow

Until I kill you on 19:38 - Nov 10 by SullutaCreturned

Barristers have to obey the law and the law says they must defend these people to the best of their ability so there is, if possible, absolutely no doubt about their guilt.

If a criminal had no representation because every barrister/lawyer/solicitor refused then that criminal would not be brought to trial, then waht happens?

What really would be grotesque would be criminals going free because the legal profession was too "nice" to represent them.


Mate.
You’re right
I question their moral dilemma defending people they know are guilty as son.
Then to do their very best ,when found guilty, to receive the least time away
This drama showed what happens when a killer is let loose on bail which has been pleased by his barrister.
That is nothing to do with justice. It’s to try to keep him in public ,free to commit further crime ,in this case Delia.
It’s about bringing compelling pressure upon magistrates and then judges

Barristers deal with professional criminals . Fact. It is all about getting them off by any means .

They deal with the most violent,vicious,unscrupulous and feral people on a daily basis . Until you deal personally with these people,with great respect,you have no idea . And that’s good,because most decent people have no idea as to the depravity of people .

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Until I kill you on 11:54 - Nov 11 with 712 views1983

Until I kill you on 10:39 - Nov 5 by raynor94

Yes, she treated her partner poor, after he had been there for her,

Yes good acting and nice to see it filmed around St James gardens


Around The Strand, No sign bar and Penlan.


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Until I kill you on 12:49 - Nov 11 with 694 viewsunion_jack

Until I kill you on 11:54 - Nov 11 by 1983

Around The Strand, No sign bar and Penlan.


Also down by the Dylan Thomas Centre, side street by Morgan’s and the Guildhall. I’m thinking the courtroom is the one in the Guildhall with the entrance opposite. Ictiris Gardens.

Was the Greek Restaurant The No Sign Wine Bar? I thought it was The Brasseria?
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Until I kill you on 12:51 - Nov 11 with 681 viewsunion_jack

I thought AMM was brilliant but her accent was not the best. She tended to sound a bit of a mix between West Country and Irish.

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Until I kill you on 13:42 - Nov 11 with 657 viewsraynor94

Until I kill you on 12:51 - Nov 11 by union_jack

I thought AMM was brilliant but her accent was not the best. She tended to sound a bit of a mix between West Country and Irish.


In fairness if you listen to Delia Balmer talking I can see why AMM did the accent

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Until I kill you on 13:53 - Nov 11 with 653 viewsScotia

Until I kill you on 12:49 - Nov 11 by union_jack

Also down by the Dylan Thomas Centre, side street by Morgan’s and the Guildhall. I’m thinking the courtroom is the one in the Guildhall with the entrance opposite. Ictiris Gardens.

Was the Greek Restaurant The No Sign Wine Bar? I thought it was The Brasseria?
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It was the Bras - the No SignBar was the pub she was in with her nurse friend.

The pub she was in with Sweeney when she wanted to dance was the Labour club on Wind Street. Even the sceens in Camden at the start were Uplands with different signs added.

My uncle was an extra in it, he's doing loads after retiring.
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Until I kill you on 13:54 - Nov 11 with 648 viewsunion_jack

Until I kill you on 13:42 - Nov 11 by raynor94

In fairness if you listen to Delia Balmer talking I can see why AMM did the accent


Fair enough, not seen the documentary yet.

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Until I kill you on 00:39 - Nov 12 with 545 viewsSTID2017

Until I kill you on 09:48 - Nov 5 by onehunglow

I’m at the stage when Delia gets assaulted within an inch of her life whilst he was on bail.
As I say, what moral compass do barristers have
In this case ,a very dangerous man let loose ,for Christmas ,to see his family
Utterly grotesque


Every person has the right to a defence.
Ultimately up to the judge who should have ruled it was unsafe for him to be released

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Until I kill you on 00:45 - Nov 12 with 542 viewsSTID2017

Until I kill you on 19:45 - Nov 10 by onehunglow

Mate.
You’re right
I question their moral dilemma defending people they know are guilty as son.
Then to do their very best ,when found guilty, to receive the least time away
This drama showed what happens when a killer is let loose on bail which has been pleased by his barrister.
That is nothing to do with justice. It’s to try to keep him in public ,free to commit further crime ,in this case Delia.
It’s about bringing compelling pressure upon magistrates and then judges

Barristers deal with professional criminals . Fact. It is all about getting them off by any means .

They deal with the most violent,vicious,unscrupulous and feral people on a daily basis . Until you deal personally with these people,with great respect,you have no idea . And that’s good,because most decent people have no idea as to the depravity of people .


Without defence lawyers doing their job to the best of their ability, we may as well get out the ducking stool and go on the principle that those that drown are innocent

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Until I kill you on 00:48 - Nov 12 with 540 viewsSTID2017

Until I kill you on 12:49 - Nov 11 by union_jack

Also down by the Dylan Thomas Centre, side street by Morgan’s and the Guildhall. I’m thinking the courtroom is the one in the Guildhall with the entrance opposite. Ictiris Gardens.

Was the Greek Restaurant The No Sign Wine Bar? I thought it was The Brasseria?
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It was the Coroner's Court with panels added to make it look like the Old Bailey

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Until I kill you on 09:12 - Nov 12 with 474 viewsonehunglow

Until I kill you on 00:39 - Nov 12 by STID2017

Every person has the right to a defence.
Ultimately up to the judge who should have ruled it was unsafe for him to be released


My point was and is.
We are talking about the moral dilemma of a barrister trying to release somebody he knows is super violent .
Judges are barristers
Hope this scenario doesn’t happen to your family .
This country does not protect people ,especially women and children

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Until I kill you on 09:24 - Nov 12 with 466 viewsSTID2017

Until I kill you on 09:12 - Nov 12 by onehunglow

My point was and is.
We are talking about the moral dilemma of a barrister trying to release somebody he knows is super violent .
Judges are barristers
Hope this scenario doesn’t happen to your family .
This country does not protect people ,especially women and children


There is no moral dilemma.
A barrister, lawyer, whatever, is like a doctor.
They take on their role to do their best for their client whether that be the CPS or the accused.
Our legal system has many faults but is probably still the best in the world.
Look at that crackpot country US or many countries where a fair trial is just a pipe dream

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Until I kill you on 09:34 - Nov 12 with 462 viewsonehunglow

Until I kill you on 09:24 - Nov 12 by STID2017

There is no moral dilemma.
A barrister, lawyer, whatever, is like a doctor.
They take on their role to do their best for their client whether that be the CPS or the accused.
Our legal system has many faults but is probably still the best in the world.
Look at that crackpot country US or many countries where a fair trial is just a pipe dream


We.let me out it this way ; had I been a Silk ,I would find it very difficult indeed to have pleased that Jimmy Savile be bailed or if found guilt,be given the least sentence possible .
Similarly, pleading mitigation for Lucy Letby .
Anyway,thanks for the exchange .

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