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..who'd want to be one today? What have they to look forward to ???
(1) A chance of the first step on the housing ladder in London? No foo king chance! (2) University education subsidised by the state like in the good old 80's? Sorry, minimum of 30k for 3 years for you or your parents to have hanging over your head for years to pay back eventually. (3) Imminent elderly nursing home explosion..who's going to pay for it?..the kids of course! (4) Pensions to start at 70. and now the absolute tin lid killer from George Osborne: (5) An 8 hour school-day! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/georgeosborne/12195132/Budget-2016-Geor
What with all the stress I can't see them getting any skinnier. Taking comfort refuge in their mobiles,fizzy drinks and cake and burgers very understandable.
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'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.
Also kids aren't allowed to do anything anymore. They banned playing football in the street in the 90s, but now they're banning it on green spaces too by sticking "no ball games" signs up everywhere.
Parents seem to give their kids loads less freedom as well these days with every minute of their free time being carefully managed. We were just left to get on with it.
You see that announcement about Academies yesterday? So central government is going to control their education too. Stealthy totalitarianism.
One thing though is that kids aren't going to see what they're missing out on if they never had it. It's the inverse of why hooray henrys get to live in such ignorant bliss.......
Lots of great movies for kids though like the Marvel films and Star Wars plus Lego is fantastic these days and theme parks get better every year. Ok when they grow up it will be crap and boring but that was the same for us as well
I'm 45, but since my childhood: 1. Over population in London 2. Increasing violence on the streets 3. Jammed tubes, even at 7am 4. Jammed roads as early as 6am (North Bloody Circular) 5. Proliferation of 'legal highs' that can kill you 6. 5 hour waits at A&E (see 1 above) 7. No chance to buy a home near family (£500k for a 2 bed flat 'round my way). 8. Instant gratification - no patience required anymore and no gratitude: no need to sit through adverts, wait for your birthday to get a new game etc. Now we have fast forward TV and the App Store 9. Speed cameras, average speed cameras, road humps (particularly in bloody Ealing!). Driving in a few years will be torture. 10. £30++ to watch a crap game of football now. God knows what they'll end up paying. I remember paying a fiver to watch England. 11. A degree to flip burgers in McDonalds 12. Work 'til you die.
I feel sorry for my lot! Hopefully they'll also get to see the demise of the Scum though
It meant that I grew up with 80s music and movies. I was in high school and college in the 90s when music was incredible (grunge, post-hardcore, the only good period for rap music, really good metal). I got to experience old gaming tech when it was new. I got to grow up without the pressure of the internet.
And now I get to enjoy how things have changed.
That said, a kid today is growing up in the future. It'll have to work out one way or another. Yeah it sucks trying to get a house in London but leave London and you'll be fine. They'll get all the gadgets and all the medical advances.
You'll be injecting stem cells into your f**king face and curing blindness and shit by then.
And Chelsea will have collapsed financially and physically.
ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE THROUGH MARTI THE REDEEMER WHO STRENGTHENS ME.
I'm 45, but since my childhood: 1. Over population in London 2. Increasing violence on the streets 3. Jammed tubes, even at 7am 4. Jammed roads as early as 6am (North Bloody Circular) 5. Proliferation of 'legal highs' that can kill you 6. 5 hour waits at A&E (see 1 above) 7. No chance to buy a home near family (£500k for a 2 bed flat 'round my way). 8. Instant gratification - no patience required anymore and no gratitude: no need to sit through adverts, wait for your birthday to get a new game etc. Now we have fast forward TV and the App Store 9. Speed cameras, average speed cameras, road humps (particularly in bloody Ealing!). Driving in a few years will be torture. 10. £30++ to watch a crap game of football now. God knows what they'll end up paying. I remember paying a fiver to watch England. 11. A degree to flip burgers in McDonalds 12. Work 'til you die.
I feel sorry for my lot! Hopefully they'll also get to see the demise of the Scum though
I'm not sure it's that bad. I have three teenagers and their fear of violence is much less than mine in the late 70s and early 80s. Everyone you didn't know then was a potential threat, but now they have such enormous numbers of contacts through social media that even if they don't know a stranger, they tend to have a lot of people in common. They are happy to go anywhere and talk to anyone. Depends where you live, I suppose.
As for work til you die, that applied much more when the retirement age was 65 and average male life expectancy was 67. Part of the crisis of pension and social care provision is that everyone hangs around much longer these days, a real problem of real success. Don't fancy going past 80 myself though.
I'm not sure it's that bad. I have three teenagers and their fear of violence is much less than mine in the late 70s and early 80s. Everyone you didn't know then was a potential threat, but now they have such enormous numbers of contacts through social media that even if they don't know a stranger, they tend to have a lot of people in common. They are happy to go anywhere and talk to anyone. Depends where you live, I suppose.
As for work til you die, that applied much more when the retirement age was 65 and average male life expectancy was 67. Part of the crisis of pension and social care provision is that everyone hangs around much longer these days, a real problem of real success. Don't fancy going past 80 myself though.
Good post, it always amuses me when people moan about working longer whilst conveniently forgetting that they are living much longer.
Lost count of how many times I have returned to London/UK from living overseas and the only real solace I think I can offer, is that much of what is said above, is the same as I have experienced all around the planet.
If you haven't read Orwell's '1984' or 'Animal Farm' for that matter, the unerring accuracy of his predictions is chillingly obvious for all to see on a daily basis. How life is imitating art is also fascinating - if you've seen the existence envisioned by Fritz Lang in his 1927 film 'Metropolis', its uncanny.
Yesterday the news carried a piece about an AI machine trouncing the human world champion of some Chinese board game. That alone should ring alarm bells about the rise of the machines!
Kids today, don't envy them at all!
'Always In Motion' by John Honney available on amazon.co.uk
Nous sommes L’occitane Rs!
My kids have been to a number of different countries by early teens. I used to go on awful hols to b&bs where they literally put one tea bag in the pot to share for three people.
They've had football lessons, tennis lessons and swimming lessons since they were small. I had to get a Saturday job in Woolies before I could afford to join the local tennis club.
My heyday was the 80s when big hair and shoulder pads was the fashion - not very flattering, believe me for the, ahem, more fully figured lady. These days there's loads of choice. Pretty much anything goes,
There are tons of different restaurants now, with massive choice. Apart from holidays I don't think I went to a restaurant until I was 18, and then it was an Angus steak house (!)
Most of their teachers care about their education and bother to make lessons interesting. My school years tipped between terror by sadistic monsters or being bored silly by teachers who couldn't be arsed to teach - just give out facts.
I don't think I had it hard - just that's how things were. I take the point that some things are much harder - getting into a career or buying a property. But I do think there are far more options and variety of leisure now. It's my job to take some of the pressure off them and I may have to live in a smaller house so they can afford to buy somewhere. But really why should I need a family house when I'm in my 60s and 70s?
I guess my point is that all times have their advantages and disadvantages. My parents retired early, made fortunes in property, had cracking pensions but my mum was evacuated in the war and dad was a prisoner of war for five years.
Lost count of how many times I have returned to London/UK from living overseas and the only real solace I think I can offer, is that much of what is said above, is the same as I have experienced all around the planet.
If you haven't read Orwell's '1984' or 'Animal Farm' for that matter, the unerring accuracy of his predictions is chillingly obvious for all to see on a daily basis. How life is imitating art is also fascinating - if you've seen the existence envisioned by Fritz Lang in his 1927 film 'Metropolis', its uncanny.
Yesterday the news carried a piece about an AI machine trouncing the human world champion of some Chinese board game. That alone should ring alarm bells about the rise of the machines!
Kids today, don't envy them at all!
"The Machine Stops" by EM Forster is quite prophetic. You can find all manner of potentially plausible dystopias (dystopiae?)in serious science fiction.
I'm not one of the doom laden.I'd love to be a kid again - so many opportunities,much more so than when I was growing up.And the discoveries - one lifetime just isn't enough.
I think it's a myth there's more violent crime in London than in previous decades.
Yes, there's a problem with knife crime related to gangs but turf wars between groups of youths from rival areas is nothing new and neither is gangster violence. Look at what we had to contend with in the 70s and 80s - rampant football hooliganism and much higher levels of casual street violence, often stranger to stranger. Anyone who went to gigs in the late 70s and early 80s knows what I'm talking about.
Lost count of how many times I have returned to London/UK from living overseas and the only real solace I think I can offer, is that much of what is said above, is the same as I have experienced all around the planet.
If you haven't read Orwell's '1984' or 'Animal Farm' for that matter, the unerring accuracy of his predictions is chillingly obvious for all to see on a daily basis. How life is imitating art is also fascinating - if you've seen the existence envisioned by Fritz Lang in his 1927 film 'Metropolis', its uncanny.
Yesterday the news carried a piece about an AI machine trouncing the human world champion of some Chinese board game. That alone should ring alarm bells about the rise of the machines!
Kids today, don't envy them at all!
I saw an Orwell related post somewhere recently perhaps on here or maybe on Facebook that made me chuckle.
To paraphase, it was something along the lines of "FFS I wrote it as a warning not as an instruction manual!!!"
No Raves, No E's No dodgy pirate radio stations No underage drinking in dodgy pubs No great QPR side like in the 80's and 90's No mobiles
we had it great , the kids today have it worse
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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