| FAO - Bazza - Livingstone resigning from Labour 00:25 - May 22 with 1423 views | FredManRave |
Would like to know Bazzas views on another debacle in Livingstone's ridiculously long history. |  |
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| FAO - Bazza - Livingstone resigning from Labour on 04:38 - May 22 with 1382 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Good socialist ideas, a rare ally for the Left in the Labour Party.
At best disrespectful, at worst anti Semitic.
Correct decision for him to leave. If he didn’t he would have (rightly) been thrown out by the NEC this week anyway.
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| FAO - Bazza - Livingstone resigning from Labour on 08:12 - May 22 with 1291 views | FDC |
The bloke's a liability. Just cannot stop talking about Hitler. Like he's got Tourettes or something. At this point you have to wonder what his problem is. Either antisemitic, which I've always doubted but was starting to wonder, or just a very strange personality disorder. |  | | |
| FAO - Bazza - Livingstone resigning from Labour on 09:46 - May 22 with 1229 views | hubble |
| FAO - Bazza - Livingstone resigning from Labour on 08:12 - May 22 by FDC |
The bloke's a liability. Just cannot stop talking about Hitler. Like he's got Tourettes or something. At this point you have to wonder what his problem is. Either antisemitic, which I've always doubted but was starting to wonder, or just a very strange personality disorder. |
Possibly the latter.
I've met Ken a couple of times on the Jubilee line over the last 15 years or so. How many MPs can you say you've met on the tube? Both times we had a really good chat. I started the conversations because as a teenager he was a hero of mine. We felt adrift in the Thatcherite onslaught and Ken seemed to be our saviour, battling the witch from Westminster across the river in County Hall. In response, Thatcher abolished the GLC. I remember he made all tube fares 50p max, and when the government declared that illegal, told people to say 'can't pay, won't pay!'
I've no doubt there will be people reading this who have the absolute opposite view of him. But I once read that The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin was his favourite book and it was mine too. So I felt a bond. We discussed this as we travelled through North West London. Along the way we discussed many other things. Like anyone, he has flaws, but as a man of principle and a firebrand in his day I still have admiration for him.
For those that believe the Labour party should be about the ordinary working (or not working) person first and foremost, not the Blairite Tory-lite version we've had for the most of the last 20 years, he represents something much closer to the soul of the party than his detractors. As for his anti-semitic thing, I've yet to see any actual evidence. Stating what he did about Hitler maybe unsavoury for some, but it doesn't make him an anti-semite. There's a huge difference between being a critic of Israel and Israeli policy and that. Although many would have us believe they are one and the same thing.
I don't feel any particular allegiance to the Labour party - or any political party for that matter - they seem like cults to me. I'd prefer politicians to be independent. Ken speaks his mind and has always seemed to have independence of thought, which is perhaps worthy of admiration. At the same time, he has sometimes gone way too far in terms of adhering to political dogma, certainly for me. His resignation might help the Labour party in its current incarnation as it battles most of the mainstream media, who appear to be lined up against Corbyn. For a few weeks, anyway. [Post edited 22 May 2018 9:48]
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