| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 10:52 - Oct 20 with 4776 views | francisbowles |
Have a look at the second angle, far post, a bit of a tussle and a swinging arm. Penalty?
As for the lying on the ball, Pinner will be needed for that. |  | |  |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 11:58 - Oct 20 with 4684 views | kropotkin41 |
Isn't that called something in that Other Game, the one they play in posh schools? A ruck? Maybe you should be able to go after the ball with your feet. |  |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 13:13 - Oct 20 with 4601 views | Watford_Ranger |
Giving a FK to Boro was the obvious cop out but it’s obstruction and (indirect?) FK to Sheff Wed for me. | | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 13:25 - Oct 20 with 4580 views | TacticalR |
I can see Preston etc furiously taking notes. Their normal method of stopping the game is pretending to be injured, but lying on the ball could be a new innovation. |  |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 15:02 - Oct 20 with 4452 views | Esox_Lucius |
4th and inches, I would have gone for it. |  |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 22:07 - Oct 20 with 4109 views | PinnerPaul |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 13:13 - Oct 20 by Watford_Ranger |
Giving a FK to Boro was the obvious cop out but it’s obstruction and (indirect?) FK to Sheff Wed for me. |
Agree about the 'cop out'
No such thing as 'obstruction' in LOTG though.
You COULD give free kick for playing in a dangerous (to yourself in this case) manner.
You could even caution and give IDFK for 'Unsporting behaviour'
Not sure what he has seen to give Boro a fk and agree with you that's the 'safe' decision! | | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 22:13 - Oct 20 with 4082 views | OakR |
Drop ball surely? | |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 00:07 - Oct 21 with 3960 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 22:07 - Oct 20 by PinnerPaul |
Agree about the 'cop out'
No such thing as 'obstruction' in LOTG though.
You COULD give free kick for playing in a dangerous (to yourself in this case) manner.
You could even caution and give IDFK for 'Unsporting behaviour'
Not sure what he has seen to give Boro a fk and agree with you that's the 'safe' decision! |
Thanks.
So obstruction is gone (or never existed?). Is it still an offence de jure when a defender shepherds the ball out for ten yards blocking off an attacker? | | | |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 04:09 - Oct 21 with 3891 views | stowmarketrange |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 00:07 - Oct 21 by Watford_Ranger |
Thanks.
So obstruction is gone (or never existed?). Is it still an offence de jure when a defender shepherds the ball out for ten yards blocking off an attacker? |
If it’s not,it certainly should be an offence. |  | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 09:08 - Oct 21 with 3726 views | smegma |
I would have given a penalty , sent off 3 Boro players and banned Tiny P*nis from ever being a manager again. [Post edited 22 Oct 2018 10:04]
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 09:44 - Oct 21 with 3663 views | Tonto |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 15:02 - Oct 20 by Esox_Lucius |
4th and inches, I would have gone for it. |
Jason Garrett wouldn't... |  |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 09:55 - Oct 21 with 3647 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 09:44 - Oct 21 by Tonto |
Jason Garrett wouldn't... |
Newton or Mahomes on a sneak? | |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 11:51 - Oct 21 with 3530 views | LongsufferingR |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 22:13 - Oct 20 by OakR |
Drop ball surely? |
...is the right answer, but we never see proper contested drop balls anymore. No idea why that is. Can't imagine any ref would have had the gonads to give a drop ball a yard from the goal though. |  | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 16:43 - Oct 21 with 3340 views | PinnerPaul |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 00:07 - Oct 21 by Watford_Ranger |
Thanks.
So obstruction is gone (or never existed?). Is it still an offence de jure when a defender shepherds the ball out for ten yards blocking off an attacker? |
As long as the ball is in 'playing distance' its OK.
What you will see and again its a 'safe' decision is a free kick given to defending side, just to get the ball out of the corner!
On OP - On my 2nd favourite forum! - Ref Chat- consensus is that was the 'easy' decision - no one can see why Boro given a free kick there! | | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 16:45 - Oct 21 with 3336 views | PinnerPaul |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 11:51 - Oct 21 by LongsufferingR |
...is the right answer, but we never see proper contested drop balls anymore. No idea why that is. Can't imagine any ref would have had the gonads to give a drop ball a yard from the goal though. |
Again, bit of a cop out. Reason to stop play is because Boro player is lying on the ball - eg playing in a dangerous (to himself) manner.
Free kick or drop ball if you go that way - goes back to '6 yard line' as you can't have an attacking free kick or drop ball in the goal area. | | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 18:37 - Oct 21 with 3254 views | OldPedro |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 16:43 - Oct 21 by PinnerPaul |
As long as the ball is in 'playing distance' its OK.
What you will see and again its a 'safe' decision is a free kick given to defending side, just to get the ball out of the corner!
On OP - On my 2nd favourite forum! - Ref Chat- consensus is that was the 'easy' decision - no one can see why Boro given a free kick there! |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 08:18 - Oct 22 with 2997 views | Northernr |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 22:07 - Oct 20 by PinnerPaul |
Agree about the 'cop out'
No such thing as 'obstruction' in LOTG though.
You COULD give free kick for playing in a dangerous (to yourself in this case) manner.
You could even caution and give IDFK for 'Unsporting behaviour'
Not sure what he has seen to give Boro a fk and agree with you that's the 'safe' decision! |
What would you have given?
I agree that it was a cop out to give Boro a free kick, although Lees perhaps does push him in the first instance, but what on earth I'd have done I don't know. |  | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 13:30 - Oct 22 with 2863 views | dachiltern |
From a hazy Lanzarote looks like referees view is of a push on the defender and easy to give. Otherwise if not a push in law an indirect free kick for dangerous play (lying on ball,) preventing oppo to play ball.
Next question then, if an indirect fk was awarded where would it have been taken from and where would defending players have to stand? |  | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 14:40 - Oct 22 with 2827 views | TheChef |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 16:45 - Oct 21 by PinnerPaul |
Again, bit of a cop out. Reason to stop play is because Boro player is lying on the ball - eg playing in a dangerous (to himself) manner.
Free kick or drop ball if you go that way - goes back to '6 yard line' as you can't have an attacking free kick or drop ball in the goal area. |
Drop ball sounds about right.
One thing it definitely wasn't, was a Boro free kick. |  |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 16:13 - Oct 22 with 2793 views | blacky200 |
Should of given us a points deduction and massive fine. 
That's a tough decision. I think in the heat of the moment the ref got it about right. |  | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 16:42 - Oct 22 with 2770 views | PinnerPaul |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 08:18 - Oct 22 by Northernr |
What would you have given?
I agree that it was a cop out to give Boro a free kick, although Lees perhaps does push him in the first instance, but what on earth I'd have done I don't know. |
Its hard to tell, days after the game!
Don't want to be accused of sitting on the fence though - so probably would have gone with drop ball.
Half a cop out if you like! | | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 16:44 - Oct 22 with 2763 views | PinnerPaul |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 13:30 - Oct 22 by dachiltern |
From a hazy Lanzarote looks like referees view is of a push on the defender and easy to give. Otherwise if not a push in law an indirect free kick for dangerous play (lying on ball,) preventing oppo to play ball.
Next question then, if an indirect fk was awarded where would it have been taken from and where would defending players have to stand? |
As I said above FK is on the goal area line and oppo players have to stand between the posts on the line (if less than 10 yards away) - easy exam question that one! | | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 22:39 - Oct 22 with 2669 views | FDC |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 22:07 - Oct 20 by PinnerPaul |
Agree about the 'cop out'
No such thing as 'obstruction' in LOTG though.
You COULD give free kick for playing in a dangerous (to yourself in this case) manner.
You could even caution and give IDFK for 'Unsporting behaviour'
Not sure what he has seen to give Boro a fk and agree with you that's the 'safe' decision! |
"You could even caution and give IDFK"
It took me a moment to work out that IDFK didn't actually stand for "I don't fcking know". |  | | |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 13:04 - Oct 23 with 2551 views | PinnerPaul |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 22:39 - Oct 22 by FDC |
"You could even caution and give IDFK"
It took me a moment to work out that IDFK didn't actually stand for "I don't fcking know". |
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| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 13:37 - Oct 23 with 2513 views | Match82 |
| Middlesboro - Sheff Weds pile up - what should the ref have done?? on 16:45 - Oct 21 by PinnerPaul |
Again, bit of a cop out. Reason to stop play is because Boro player is lying on the ball - eg playing in a dangerous (to himself) manner.
Free kick or drop ball if you go that way - goes back to '6 yard line' as you can't have an attacking free kick or drop ball in the goal area. |
That's a shame - drop ball inside the six yard box would be fantastic entertainment! |  | | |
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